2 Canadians to 1 Americam who wish to immigrate to each respective country.

[Babayaro]

I don’t want my kids end up dead in the school by some crazy mass shooter. US over Canada? I don’t think so.. only problem in Canada is cold we don’t have many options about it. As a Canadian no thanks for US. I don’t want to live in the country have crazy nuts everywhere.

 

[itsmyid]

I don’t want my kids end up dead in the school by some crazy mass shooter. US over Canada? I don’t think so.. only problem in Canada is cold we don’t have many options about it. As a Canadian no thanks for US. I don’t want to live in the country have crazy nuts everywhere.

Well, crazy nuts are everywhere , both in the US and in Canada - such incident seems less frequent in Canada only because the population base is smaller and guns are more difficult to get, but that doesn’t stop people from finding guns to shoot others , or driving a van through the crowds

 

[Marooned2]

I don’t want my kids end up dead in the school by some crazy mass shooter. US over Canada? I don’t think so.. only problem in Canada is cold we don’t have many options about it. As a Canadian no thanks for US. I don’t want to live in the country have crazy nuts everywhere.

Tragedies happen everywhere, these things should not be your main concern. For me I'm just content with Canada, not looking to be a crazy business owner or something. Hell even if my own country wasn't an absolute train wreck culturally, I wouldn't have moved here. Immigrating is not easy, you leave a lot of stuff behind; you need high incentives to move.

I also prefer the cooperative and socialist mindset people have here (slightly) rather than crazy competitive mindset US people and companies have.

 

[jamie hito]

I don’t want my kids end up dead in the school by some crazy mass shooter. US over Canada? I don’t think so.. only problem in Canada is cold we don’t have many options about it. As a Canadian no thanks for US. I don’t want to live in the country have crazy nuts everywhere.

Oh yeah?!
Thats a harsh judgment of a country.
Given the circumstances, including those US citizens on this forum, do you all think you will be granted US citizenship or even a greencard by the United States Constitution?
I received mine after getting a Canadian travel document. I don’t think you can attain what I did piecemeal.

It is rather human to forget how fortunate we are being afforded the rights and privileges our country of birth, where those before us shed their blood and life to be where we are now.

Well, whatever toote ones horn is where your happy.

 

[foodie69]

Hence I mentioned naturalized citizens are adamant on the contrary. You friend for example.

Yep, no desire at all. I have plenty of everything here right on my door step.

 

[itsmyid]

Oh yeah?!
Thats a harsh judgment of a country.
Given the circumstances, including those US citizens on this forum, do you all think you will be granted US citizenship or even a greencard by the United States Constitution?
I received mine after getting a Canadian travel document. I don’t think you can attain what I did piecemeal.

It is rather human to forget how fortunate we are being afforded the rights and privileges our country of birth, where those before us shed their blood and life to be where we are now.

Well, whatever toote ones horn is where your happy.

This is a discussion that will never reach any consensus ... I can name a lot of things that are better in Canada, as well as a lot of things that are better in the US - it really depends on the individual, and even for any one particular individual, it could also depend on which stage of life he/she is in. Having lived and worked in both, I can confidently say whatever side I am on, I would always miss the other place and try to find time to spend there lol

 

[keesio]

My wife and I are Americans who moved to Toronto. I was born and raised in the US (NYC). My wife immigrated there when she was seven. I am also a Canadian citizen while my wife is a PR. I moved to Toronto 18 years ago on a work visa (my employer sponsored me) and sponsored my wife a few years ago. I work in the semiconductor industry as an engineer. I moved to Toronto simply because I liked the city and was curious what life would be like living there. Obviously I ended up liking it quite a bit.

However, I know plenty of Canadians (some of them very good friends of mine), both naturalized or born in Canada, that have moved to the USA. 99% of the time it is because there are simply better economic opportunities in the USA and we all know money talks. One naturalized friend of mine always had the goal to get to the US. He was looking to use Canada as the stereotypical "stepping stone" from the start. The irony is that many of these Canadians (again both naturalized and ones born in) are ones who were very critical and disdainful of the USA. But when seeing a great opportunity, they didn't blink. They will still criticize the USA while living there (and proudly state how much better things are in Canada), but the money is just too good in the USA to ever move back to Canada.... and we all know money talks.

 

[ZingyDNA]

I don’t want my kids end up dead in the school by some crazy mass shooter. US over Canada? I don’t think so.. only problem in Canada is cold we don’t have many options about it. As a Canadian no thanks for US. I don’t want to live in the country have crazy nuts everywhere.

The US doesn't have "crazy nuts" everywhere. School shootings are like plane crashes. Statistically planes are safer than cars (by quite a bit I think), but every time a plane crashes, it's on the news so everyone knows...

 

[ZingyDNA]

but the money is just too good in the USA to ever move back to Canada.... and we all know money talks.

Yeah and it's not like they make so much more, their money just have a lot more buying power.. Things are a lot more expensive here. My wife and I have stopped comparing prices long ago as that'll just make us sad Ha Ha

 

[links18]

Ever notice how Americans (United Statesians?) Will refer to "America," while Canadians will often offer up "North America" as a description of their geographic field of vision? Americans display an enormous lack of knowledge and curiosity about the world outside their borders, while Canadians, being a middling economy geographically bound to their neighbors to the South (most Canadians live within a hundred miles or so of the US border and for many of them the next closest large population center is in the US not Canada), tend to have a wider appreciation of belonging to something bigger than themselves. Call it the "comparative advantage of smallness."

 

[canvis2006]

America is still better. Canada getting too expensive, and this high min. wage doesn't help the situation.

 

[Joshua1]

The US and Canada are cousins, but are different based on culture and history. From a purely economic standpoint, Canada is conservative (risk-averse) when it comes to building a business or getting jobs (wait for your turn, wait for others who were there before you even though they are less competent, get in the queue... canadian experience needed. However, there is some life/work balance, promotes fairness, etc.). The US is competitive (bullish) when it comes to building a business or getting jobs (if you are the best or competent, you get a shot at proving yourself, the sky's the limit, you can jump the queue. However, there is less fairness, less life/work balance, etc.)

 

[keesio]

Yeah and it's not like they make so much more, their money just have a lot more buying power.. Things are a lot more expensive here. My wife and I have stopped comparing prices long ago as that'll just make us sad Ha Ha

Depending on your field, there is potential to make much more in the US. Basically, if you are in the entertainment (media or music) industry, it is a no brainer. No actor/actress will turn down an opportunity to make it in Hollywood. Also, health professionals can get paid a lot more. The ceiling is much higher in the US.

 

[keesio]

The US and Canada are cousins, but are different based on culture and history. From a purely economic standpoint, Canada is conservative (risk-averse) when it comes to building a business or getting jobs (wait for your turn, wait for others who were there before you even though they are less competent, get in the queue... canadian experience needed. However, there is some life/work balance, promotes fairness, etc.). The US is competitive (bullish) when it comes to building a business or getting jobs (if you are the best or competent, you get a shot at proving yourself, the sky's the limit, you can jump the queue. However, there is less fairness, less life/work balance, etc.)

yes, Canada has a bit more of the socialist mindset where as the USA is more free-wheeling.

 

[keesio]

tend to have a wider appreciation of belonging to something bigger than themselves. Call it the "comparative advantage of smallness."

yes, indeed. People tend to be more aware of someone "bigger" than them. USA, in their belief that they are #1, tend to be pretty insular. Canadians, not so much. But while Canadians may be more aware of countries with more influence (USA, UK, France, etc), they often don't know much about countries of less influence than them. Ask them who the president of Chile is and you will often get a blank look.