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Thank you for this write-up. It's really informative and exactly why I visit these forums.

A bit of a quibble for clarity:
You state "the FC ordered that Camayo should keep refugee status anyways."​

With some exceptions, not applicable to Camayo, the FC does not have jurisdiction to make such an order. The Camayo FC order, which was in effect upheld in the appeal to the FCA, set aside the RPD determination of cessation and ordered the matter "remitted to a differently constituted RPD for redetermination." Which is the typical favourable outcome in the appeal of cessation. I do not know the outcome of the case after that, which could range from the Minister electing to withdraw the application for cessation to the RPD rehearing the case and deciding against the government, no cessation, or another determination of cessation. While I do not know the outcome of what, in effect, was a remand for a new trial for Camayo, we have seen other cases (and I discuss some of these in the previous pages of this thread) in which the PR-refugee won an appeal but was again determined to have reavailed home country protection, and appealed that and lost the appeal the second time around (I vaguely recall there might have been one that eventually lost the third time around -- winning the appeal twice, but after a third RPD panel determined cessation, also lost in the appeal).
Excellent point, you're absolutely right. I made a bad assumption here. It's possible for example that the new trial was still against Camayo but she decided against appealing (perhaps because in the meantime an avenue to another country opened up for her).

Take-Aways:

The main take-away is that the cases subsequent to Camayo do not indicate a trend toward leniency in applying cessation to PR-refugees.
Agreed. It's still worth being informed about them (so one can discuss with the lawyer and knowing these may e.g. help when in front of the RPD), but someone in this situation should still be prepared for an uphill battle.

the FC does not have jurisdiction to make such an order...With some exceptions
Please excuse me while I investigate this new rabbit hole.
 

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the FC does not have jurisdiction to make such an order...With some exceptions
Please excuse me while I investigate this new rabbit hole.
I applaud any effort to further research an issue.

That said, the gist of it here is not complicated. It is not likely any "rabbit hole" spelunking is necessary. The court's review of RPD decisions is largely limited to determining if the RPD's decision should be upheld or set aside (if set aside the case almost always will go back to be decided by a different decision-maker within the RPD). Beyond certifying questions for further review (by the Federal Court of Appeal), exceptions are few and narrow.

However, quite likely that "jurisdiction" is not the right term here. Sorry. Mea culpa . . . damn legalese some might claim as an excuse . . . but really just the inherent, inevitable complexity of language employed in highly intricate and often puzzling contexts, which is common in many specialized professions but perhaps even more salient in the law.

Despite recognizing, in retrospect, that "jurisdiction" is not the right term here, I am not sure of the better term. This is where the fact that I am no expert and not a Canadian lawyer looms large. Would "authority," or "power," or "right" be better? Perhaps. I don't know. However one frames the parameters of judicial review, and the nature and scope of relief the court is lawfully capable of ordering, the gist of it is the FC either upholds the RPD decision or sends the case back to be decided again.

But trying to sort that out slides well into a weedy swamp which, frankly, is largely beyond the scope of what most practicing lawyers generally wrestle with, their practices largely confined to the realm of what might be called "black letter law," it being complicated enough figuring out the nuances in applying basic law to a myriad of factual scenarios in widely ranging circumstances.
 

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This question goes out to those well knowledgeable in this area.
Mine is a long story that I used to post here a few years ago for those that know particularly dpenabill who always gives structured and detailed thorough info.
I'll cut it short. I applied for citizenship when eligible in late 2017. At the interview/test in 2019 was questioned abut trips home as refugee blah blah. Took a while to hear back. Finally filed a mandamus in Dec 2022 and in 2023 February I received an application to cease Refugee status from the Minister of Public Safety. Went for a hearing late that same year at IRB. Negative decision. Filed an appeal at FC. Appeal was accepted to be heard. However the FC hearing ended in a Negative decision in Dec 2024. Since then I have not heard back. What can I expect at this point.? An admissibility hearing or removal order.? I recently applied for a Refugee Travel Document and it was issued. When I however tried to renew my PR card it was refused based on 46(i) (c.1) saying I lost my status because of loss of refugee status. I sent a request for reconsideration to IRCC. They responded telling me to take the issue up with IRB regarding loss of status.
I have a number of questions and I'm requesting a knowledgeable person on this forum to help me understand. I'm seeking advice and not ridicule about my situation because what is done is done and can't be undone. I am seeking understanding and a possible suggested way forward.
1) what should I expect in my scenario after a failed judicial hearing? Would it be an admissibility hearing or do I not qualify for that anymore and could get removal order instead.?
2) can I appeal the refused pr card renewal and ride on that to be my new saving grace in case such an appeal is allowed.? And that way my status is validated again?
3) can I still make this appeal to the IAD or can I not since they claim my pr status was lost. Can I therefore make it to FC assuming I'm not eligible for IAD?

Kindly seeking advice of a willing and knowledgeable person/pple on this forum
 

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[12] The Applicant argues, among other things, that she did not know the potential impact of travelling on her Omani passport, that she had received erroneous legal advice, and that she was unaware of the availability of a refugee travel document.

This is very funny lol! How you you dont know it will be problem travelling with your back home passport and you were unaware of the availability of a refugee travel document!
 

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[12] The Applicant argues, among other things, that she did not know the potential impact of travelling on her Omani passport, that she had received erroneous legal advice, and that she was unaware of the availability of a refugee travel document.

This is very funny lol! How you you dont know it will be problem travelling with your back home passport and you were unaware of the availability of a refugee travel document!
I think this is not that uncommon. People are aware that RTDs exist however not everyone is aware of the rules around cessation and the risks / consequences of renewing the home country passport and / or traveling to the home country.
 
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1) what should I expect in my scenario after a failed judicial hearing? Would it be an admissibility hearing or do I not qualify for that anymore and could get removal order instead.?
2) can I appeal the refused pr card renewal and ride on that to be my new saving grace in case such an appeal is allowed.? And that way my status is validated again?
3) can I still make this appeal to the IAD or can I not since they claim my pr status was lost. Can I therefore make it to FC assuming I'm not eligible for IAD?
My understanding - backed by IRCC response to your PR card application - is that you have lost your status, period.

You should speak to a lawyer / get a consultation. You should not rely upon internet resources alone. I do not believe there is any further appeal, and I don't believe the IRB will reconsider.

But - again my understanding - you are now a foreign national with no status (it seems) in Canada. This would mean your remaining options are to apply for PR status anew (H&C is one, but I know little about that); some of those types of PR apps may require you to leave Canada in order to apply (again - not my area of expertise). Likely eventually IRCC will advise you that you have no status and should depart (and eventually make more specific demands to depart and remove you - subject to the issue of where/if they can send you if there is danger involved).

Now note: I'm not clear why/what basis they issued you a refugee travel document. And - long shot - whether this somehow means you have other options because you have the RTD. Question for a lawyer.
 
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This question goes out to those well knowledgeable in this area.
Mine is a long story that I used to post here a few years ago for those that know particularly dpenabill who always gives structured and detailed thorough info.
I'll cut it short. I applied for citizenship when eligible in late 2017. At the interview/test in 2019 was questioned abut trips home as refugee blah blah. Took a while to hear back. Finally filed a mandamus in Dec 2022 and in 2023 February I received an application to cease Refugee status from the Minister of Public Safety. Went for a hearing late that same year at IRB. Negative decision. Filed an appeal at FC. Appeal was accepted to be heard. However the FC hearing ended in a Negative decision in Dec 2024. Since then I have not heard back. What can I expect at this point.? An admissibility hearing or removal order.? I recently applied for a Refugee Travel Document and it was issued. When I however tried to renew my PR card it was refused based on 46(i) (c.1) saying I lost my status because of loss of refugee status. I sent a request for reconsideration to IRCC. They responded telling me to take the issue up with IRB regarding loss of status.
I have a number of questions and I'm requesting a knowledgeable person on this forum to help me understand. I'm seeking advice and not ridicule about my situation because what is done is done and can't be undone. I am seeking understanding and a possible suggested way forward.
1) what should I expect in my scenario after a failed judicial hearing? Would it be an admissibility hearing or do I not qualify for that anymore and could get removal order instead.?
2) can I appeal the refused pr card renewal and ride on that to be my new saving grace in case such an appeal is allowed.? And that way my status is validated again?
3) can I still make this appeal to the IAD or can I not since they claim my pr status was lost. Can I therefore make it to FC assuming I'm not eligible for IAD?

Kindly seeking advice of a willing and knowledgeable person/pple on this forum
Sorry it has come to this. Sorry, in particular, that your situation is well beyond the scope of what a forum like this can offer. I do not know what a lawyer can do but a good lawyer experienced in these cases is probably your best resource.

I echo most of the observations posted by @armoured . . . in particular, it appears, and it is likely, your status is that of an inadmissible Foreign National. I am not at all well acquainted with the post-lost-status procedure or actual removal proceedings (in general or in post-cessation cases). As best I can see, absent leaving Canada the next phase is likely dealing with removal proceedings. Again, you need a lawyer. A good lawyer. I say this acknowledging even good lawyers can struggle in these scenarios, but they are the best you can probably do.

So, quite likely, the first order of business is to deal with removal proceedings. There may be an outstanding issue as to whether you can be deported, or whether your deportation could be blocked due to limitations in the law restricting or prohibiting the deportation of a person based on the particular risks to that person if returned to the home country. But I do not know much about that. If your removal can be stayed (blocked for now and going forward, which is not permanent but can be indefinite), I believe you could be eligible for an open work permit pending further proceedings. That would not give you resident status, temporary or otherwise, but make it legal for you to work pending further proceedings. But, again, this is something to review with a good lawyer experienced in these cases.

Like @armoured, I do not understand how you were issued a RTD (unless that pre-dated formal entry of the final FC decision into GCMS). Since I am not well acquainted, not at all, with post-cessation cases, I do not know, but given the fact you are not only a Foreign National now without protected person status, but also inadmissible, my sense is that if you leave Canada you probably will not be able to return here. That is, my sense is the RTD is largely of no use to you if your objective is to live in Canada.

I am also not familiar with what potential paths there might be for obtaining status to live in Canada going forward. I only somewhat recently (last couple years) became aware there might be ways to do that, but I am not acquainted with what those are, how to pursue that, what the odds are. Here again, this is an area for which a lawyer is your best bet.

Re Appeal of Refused PR card:

Short answer: No. At least not so far as I can apprehend.

Given the final determination of cessation, you are not a Permanent Resident. That simple, a done deal . . . unless there is an avenue of recourse through litigating the constitutionality of the provision automatically terminating PR status for cessation. That is absolutely lawyer stuff, including whether there is any feasible hope of that. I have not seen any recent updates about the status of the cases in which this is being litigated and I am not sure who can pursue such a case. My sense is that is a long shot but the case challenging the constitutionality of limitations in citizenship by descent for children of citizens born outside Canada appeared to be a long shot and there is now a final court ruling that provision is indeed unconstitutional as applied to certain persons. But that is major litigation, heavy-hitter lawyer terrain.

But yes, the fact you are NOT a PR (that you are a Foreign National now), so in no way eligible for a status card showing you to be a Permanent Resident, is essentially a self-operative or automatic operation of law pursuant to Section 46(1)(c.1) IRPA, the provision that states PR status is lost "on a final determination under subsection 108(2) that their refugee protection has ceased" for reasons other than those specified by 108(1)(e) IRPA.
 
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@dpenabill has given a thorough answer as usual.

The one thing I have to add is that I would not leave Canada on the RTD. I don't think the RTD is a guarantee at this point that you would be allowed back in and you may find it has been cancelled or invalidated. Don't leave the country until you are prepared to do so permanently or are forced to leave by CBSA.
 
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Sari c. Canada, 2025 CF 533, https://canlii.ca/t/kb62g

In this case Justice Saint-Fleur dismissed a cessation appeal, a ruling which like so many others of late upholds what appears to be RPD's decision in which it states it considered the lack of subjective knowledge of the legal consequences but found that did not outweigh other factors supporting the conclusion that the presumption of reavailment, including intentional reavailment, was not rebutted.

As I have discussed previously in this thread, many FC decisions have in effect gutted the ruling by the Federal Court of Appeal, in Camayo (cited and linked many times above) in regards to weighing the evidence of reavailment, and in regards to the intent to reavail. The PR-refugee's subjective understanding MUST be considered in determining whether they intended to reavail home country protection.

In this and many other cases it appears that the RPD simply says it considers this but practically gives it no real weight, which looks an awful lot like they are not actually giving this factor any real consideration (contrary to what the FCA has mandated). And many FC judges seem to be rubber-stamping this.

Leading to . . .

Al Balushi v. Canada, 2025 FC 567 (CanLII), https://canlii.ca/t/kb9kc

There are some glaring red flags in this decision by Justice Heneghan, including what seems to me to be an explicit misstatement of the law, or perhaps a decision to deliberately not follow the law. Justice Heneghan states:

[40] The Applicant argues that she was unaware of the impact upon her status in Canada of travelling on her Omani passport and that she had received wrong advice.
[41] In my opinion, the Applicant was responsible for learning about the effect of using her Omani passport. Likewise, she bears the consequences of acting upon inadequate or wrong legal advice.

This is blatantly contrary to the spirit, if not the letter of the law as decided in Canada v. Galindo Camayo, 2022 FCA 50, [2022] 4 FCR 220, https://canlii.ca/t/jndkg which is a Federal Court of Appeal decision that is binding on the FCs. In that decision the FCA explicitly listed the factors that MUST be considered, including:
The state of the individual’s knowledge with respect to the cessation provisions. Evidence that a person has returned to her country of origin in the full knowledge that it may put her refugee status in jeopardy may potentially have different significance than evidence that a person is unaware of the potential consequences of her actions;

The FCA's full discussion of this factor is set out in paragraphs 61 to 71 in the decision, in which it describes this as a "key factual consideration" which, again, MUST be considered, and states:
[68] If it were acting reasonably . . . the RPD should have considered not what Ms. Galindo Camayo should have known, but rather whether she did subjectively intend by her actions to depend on the protection of Colombia. Having failed to find that Ms. Galindo Camayo’s testimony on this point lacked credibility, the RPD is deemed to have accepted her claim that she did not know that using her Colombian passport to return to Colombia and to travel elsewhere could result in her being deemed to have reavailed herself of Colombia’s protection, and that this was not her intent.
[71] In order for it to make a reasonable decision, the RPD was required to take account of the state of Ms. Galindo Camayo’s actual knowledge and intent before concluding that she had intended to reavail herself of Colombia’s protection.

Justice Heneghan, in contrast, and so far as I can see, overtly contrary to the FCA's ruling, put the burden, the responsibility, on Ms. Al Balushi, not only making her responsible to learn about the "effect of using [her home country] passport," but imposing on her the consequences of bad advice.

There is no mention of the Camayo decision or the factors it requires to be considered and rather than rely on the applicable standards for finding cessation which are explicitly prescribed in the Camayo decision, Justice Heneghan cites the elements of cessation in Nsende v. Canada, 2008 FC 531, https://canlii.ca/t/1wrls which is a 2008 Federal Court decision (so not binding precedent and absolutely carries no weight as a precedent against law prescribed by a Federal Court of Appeal) that is NOT about a PR-refugee and is based on law BEFORE cessation was even applicable to PR-refugees.

And make no mistake, it is not as if Justice Heneghan is unaware of what the FCA's Camayo decision mandates. Which brings up some other cessation cases that we (my bad) have overlooked in this forum:

Bujbaczi v. Canada, 2025 FC 88, https://canlii.ca/t/k939d in which earlier this year Justice Heneghan dismissed a cessation appeal in which the Camayo decision is discussed, including in reference to Bujbaczi's "ignorance of the consequences," but only referenced that such ignorance is not dispositive, NO ffffing acknowledgement, no suggestion at all, that it is nonetheless a "key factual consideration."​

Shrestha v. Canada, 2024 FC 1117, https://canlii.ca/t/k5v92 in which, just last year, Justice Heneghan dismissed a cessation appeal in which the Camayo decision is "acknowledged" and little more, and a RPD decision relying on "the relevant test" for cessation as discussed in Nsende. (Shaking my head.)​
Yurtgul v. Canada, 2024 FC 481, https://canlii.ca/t/k3r0l in which, again just last year, Justice Heneghan dismissed a cessation appeal in which the Camayo decision is not only acknowledged but referenced by the government, arguing that the RPD "addressed the factors identified in Camayo". . . but Justice Heneghan does not discuss what those factors are, or how it is that the RPD reasonably addressed them, and makes no more than a passing reference to the applicant's position that the RPD unreasonably assessed his subjective knowledge of the potential consequences of his travel.​

In both the Bujbaczi and Balushi cases, Justice Heneghan also gives weight to what she claims was an "opportunity to 'perfect' [the PR-refugee's] status" in Canada "by applying for citizenship," as if that is relevant. This is not a relevant factor in convention cases generally, and there is no hint in Camayo that this is an appropriate factor to consider. But even if it was relevant, in neither of these cases there is no reference, no hint even, as to whether, as a matter of fact, these applicants met the requirements for citizenship and had an actual opportunity to become citizens.

My sense: good luck for anyone with a cessation case going before Justice Heneghan; someone in this situation should retain the best lawyer they can and urge the lawyer to identify questions to certify, with a hope the case can get to the Federal Court of Appeals.
 

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[12] The Applicant argues, among other things, that she did not know the potential impact of travelling on her Omani passport, that she had received erroneous legal advice, and that she was unaware of the availability of a refugee travel document.

This is very funny lol! How you you dont know it will be problem travelling with your back home passport and you were unaware of the availability of a refugee travel document!
This is NOT funny. Not at all.

If the RPD does not believe a statement of fact presented in the case (such as what the PR-refugee actually knows) and that is a factor in its decision, procedural fairness requires the PR-refugee be informed of this and given an opportunity to address it. Let's be clear, the law is clear (but not clearly applied), what a PR-refugee should know is NOT the issue, rather what they actually know is what matters and is a key factual consideration. (Also see previous post.)

The discussion of this issue in Camayo explicitly addresses this. The court's summary of the case states:
The respondent testified that she was not aware that using her Colombian passport to travel to Colombia and elsewhere could have consequences for her immigration status in Canada. The RPD rejected this claim, not because the respondent was not credible, but because it found that ignorance of the law was not a valid argument. The RPD should have considered not what the respondent should have known but rather whether she did subjectively intend by her actions to depend on the protection of Colombia. In order for it to make a reasonable decision, the RPD was required to take account of the state of the respondent’s actual knowledge and intent before concluding that she had intended to reavail herself of Colombia’s protection.

In Al Balushi v. Canada, 2025 FC 567 (CanLII), https://canlii.ca/t/kb9kc . . . as for her not knowing the consequences, it is perhaps too difficult to resist a snarky this-is-funny quip, in this particular case, since when this individual became a PR-refugee of Canada and initially obtained an Omani passport, and traveled to Oman, that had NO CONSEQUENCES for her status. That was BEFORE the Harper government amended the law by adding the draconian Section 46(1)(c.1) provision that would terminate status. She obviously did not know because she could not have known because it simply was not the case, at the time, that using an Omani passport and traveling to Oman could, let alone would jeopardize her Canadian PR status.

What about her later travel to Oman? After the change in law she traveled to Oman for three days. Just three days. That was in 2015. That was around the time I started this topic because not only were forum participants recommending PR-refugees get a home country passport to submit when they applied for citizenship, the CIC (before name change to IRCC) help line (call centre) was also advising clients to do that, even though the law had changed in December 2012 pursuant to which just getting a home country passport created a presumption of reavailment for which the potential consequences was loss of PR status.

(Refugee related issues were totally outside the sphere of what I followed at the time, but when I became aware of the blatant injustice of the government advising PR-refugees to get a passport and then using the fact they did against them, to strip them of being able to live in a country that had purportedly given them status to live PERMANENTLY, I started this topic to help spread the word.)

But you think it is funny she did not know what government immigration agents engaged in giving information to clients did not know (assuming they were not being deliberately giving false information to entrap refugees). So, yeah, it is indeed too difficult to resist repeating a snarky this-is-funny quip in response.

Make no mistake, the case for cessation against this individual was mostly based on:
-- obtaining a passport and travel to Oman when a PR-refugee could do that without any consequences to their status (that is, prior to December 2012)​
-- returning to Oman in 2015 for three days, to renew her passport, at a time when government agents were advising PR-refugees to get a passport to submit with an application for citizenship​
-- using her passports, last one obtained in 2015, to travel to other countries​

As for the use of a passport to travel to third countries constituting reavailment of home country protection, there are way more people who do not know or understand that rather technical formality, and this has indeed been one of the things I have struggled to persuade many who find it unbelievable, so many believing it cannot be true that traveling to Cuba using an Omani passport means someone settled in Canada permanently, who has Permanent Resident status in Canada, is availing themselves of protection by the nation of Oman. That this is a technicality few understand is so widely and well recognized that in most cessation cases, in the view of most FC justices (judges like Justice Heneghan excepted), even though the use of the passport for travel to third countries is considered an act of reavailment, as a more or less technical fact, this generally carries little weight in regards to the individual's intention, it being recognized that people generally do not intend to do something they do not know or understand they are doing . . . even though they do the act.
(Analogy: an actor on a film set pulling the trigger on a gun, thinking it is shooting blanks, but if somehow there is a live round in the gun, as Alec Baldwin experienced, someone could be shot and killed . . . the act of shooting is a fact, but the actor who did this act did not intend to shoot someone. Similarly, using a passport is an act that legally constitutes availment of that country's protection, but most people use their passport without thinking of that, without knowing that, without using it with the intent to avail that country's protection).​
 

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Thx for your response. What is confusing is that I read that losing your pr status is never official until a removal order comes into effect. Also I thought a PRRA is supposed to given to a person facing a removal order. With that, one can apply if the 12 months are up or before if you are exempt. Once you file for PRRA, it automatically stays your removal, and a negative result can be appealed at the FC as a last resort perhaps.
Yes, I do have a lawyer I have been working with but it's not everyday I can just pick the phone and ask him anything on my mind. Not until I get some sort of communication from the government he can work with. I find these forums very helpful because pple share their live experience and you can mould a perspective out of it to give you a clearer picture
 

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@scylla I definitely won't use the passport for now. The passport alone means nothing on its own. Interstingly the passport was received in February 2025 and my failed judicial review was communicated in December 2024. When the MP made an inquiry into my pr card delay, a noté was put in the system that information on the review result was updated Jan 22nd just before passport was issued. Anyway not that it matters now, just saying
 

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Thx for your response. What is confusing is that I read that losing your pr status is never official until a removal order comes into effect. Also I thought a PRRA is supposed to given to a person facing a removal order. With that, one can apply if the 12 months are up or before if you are exempt. Once you file for PRRA, it automatically stays your removal, and a negative result can be appealed at the FC as a last resort perhaps.
Yes, I do have a lawyer I have been working with but it's not everyday I can just pick the phone and ask him anything on my mind. Not until I get some sort of communication from the government he can work with. I find these forums very helpful because pple share their live experience and you can mould a perspective out of it to give you a clearer picture
Whether someone is allowed to apply for PRRA is up to CBSA. In other words, eligibility to appy for PRRA is determined by CBSA. It is not automatic.

I don't believe a removal order is required to lose PR. You can lose PR without a removal order. I'm not aware of any rule that ties the two together. Ultimately if the cessation decision has been finalized (which I believe it has in your case), you are no longer a PR. Whether the removal order has come into effect or not is irrelevant. It's the cessation that results in the loss of PR. You would now be classified as a foreign national.