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December 2024 - Citizenship Applications

LinaD

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Hi All,

We had some conversation on here about the difference between background check and prohibitions. As well as what RCMP does vs CSIS. Here is some information that sheds light on these topics directly from IRCC.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/transparency/committees/secu-august-28-2024/citizenship.html
Hi Moman

I am new in this forum.

I am waiting on Prohibition from beginning of March all the rest are completed, I understood you know more about this kind of case. Can you please let me know if you or someone in this group had this kind of situation?
Only Prohibition not completed
 

HardikD

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I believe even if you're not on the voters roll in time, the citizenship certificate and any proof of address will be enough at the polling station.

I say this not because there's any doubt about elections Canada and the voting list but so that others know: you can vote even if you're not on that list. Ask elections Canada or even at the poll on the day of. Oh, and usually the poll workers are very happy to assist 'new voters' and make them feel welcome.

They try really, really hard to make sure everyone who is eligible can vote. It's just a bit easier if you're on the voters' list (less required).

I've worked elections and have a person getting oath on the 25th. I'm not expecting any issues voting.
Thank you very much!
 
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moman21

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Hi Moman

I am new in this forum.

I am waiting on Prohibition from beginning of March all the rest are completed, I understood you know more about this kind of case. Can you please let me know if you or someone in this group had this kind of situation?
Only Prohibition not completed
Hi LinaD,
Thanks for saying that but there are others way more knowledgeable than me. :)
Prohibitions is typically the security check that CSIS runs and mostly covers criminality outside Canada. If this is pending, it means that your results haven't come back yet. Depending on where you're original from and where you've lived before migrating to.Canada, this could take time. It's nothing to worry about if you know that you have a clean record everywhere you've lived since the age of 16. I think that's how far CSIS goes for each citizenship applicant.
 

LinaD

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Hi LinaD,
Thanks for saying that but there are others way more knowledgeable than me. :)
Prohibitions is typically the security check that CSIS runs and mostly covers criminality outside Canada. If this is pending, it means that your results haven't come back yet. Depending on where you're original from and where you've lived before migrating to.Canada, this could take time. It's nothing to worry about if you know that you have a clean record everywhere you've lived since the age of 16. I think that's how far CSIS goes for each citizenship applicant.

Thank you for your prompt reply, So it means I will have to wait until my country respond them back
 

moman21

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Thank you for your prompt reply, So it means I will have to wait until my country respond them back
Yeah, you have to wait until CSIS finishes their search and clears you. We really dont know how Canada communicates with other governments and the process...just that CSIS does a security check on all citizenship applicants and must clear them before citizenship can be granted.
Also, that clearance is run again quickly right before oath too just to be sure applicants are still clear.
If you only have prohibitions in progress, you're almost done. Hang in there, you're ahead of a lot of other applicants!
 
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Yeah, you have to wait until CSIS finishes their search and clears you. We really dont know how Canada communicates with other governments and the process...just that CSIS does a security check on all citizenship applicants and must clear them before citizenship can be granted.
Also, that clearance is run again quickly right before oath too just to be sure applicants are still clear.
If you only have prohibitions in progress, you're almost done. Hang in there, you're ahead of a lot of other applicants!
Also, that clearance is run again quickly right before oath too just to be sure applicants are still clear. ?

How is this done ? Do they ask you anything during the oath or they run by themself
 

armoured

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How is this done ? Do they ask you anything during the oath or they run by themself
As noted, there is something done automatically. But: there is also a form that you need to sign off before/at the ceremony (it's in the instructions) that you've not been charged with (etc etc) a serious crime, committed genocide, you know, the usual.

You're to inform the officers if you can't sign the form (that you have been charged or whatever). I believe in most cases this means they'd delay the ceremony for that person (if you can't sign the form) so that they can look into it/clarify whether it's something that would prohibit one from becoming a citizen.

The sense of this is that if you're later found to have lied about this, you've committed misrepresentation, one of the (very few) ways that can make your citizenship revocable.

Obviously this doesn't happen a lot, but there are cases - there was a woman, last year or the year before, who was charged by the Russian govt with some (obviously political) crimes and they had to clarify whether it was also a crime under Canadian law. Obviously it should not have been but some junior officer didn't understand the context and started comparing it to Canadian criminal code and it became a mini-scandal until someone with a brain intervened (and she got the oath ceremony quickly after this idiocy became public).
 
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moman21

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As noted, there is something done automatically. But: there is also a form that you need to sign off before/at the ceremony (it's in the instructions) that you've not been charged with (etc etc) a serious crime, committed genocide, you know, the usual.

You're to inform the officers if you can't sign the form (that you have been charged or whatever). I believe in most cases this means they'd delay the ceremony for that person (if you can't sign the form) so that they can look into it/clarify whether it's something that would prohibit one from becoming a citizen.

The sense of this is that if you're later found to have lied about this, you've committed misrepresentation, one of the (very few) ways that can make your citizenship revocable.

Obviously this doesn't happen a lot, but there are cases - there was a woman, last year or the year before, who was charged by the Russian govt with some (obviously political) crimes and they had to clarify whether it was also a crime under Canadian law. Obviously it should not have been but some junior officer didn't understand the context and started comparing it to Canadian criminal code and it became a mini-scandal until someone with a brain intervened (and she got the oath ceremony quickly after this idiocy became public).
I think I read about that in the news. The woman never even left Canada and applied as soon as she was eligible. And I recall correctly, she fled Russia for her safety so it was kind of ironic that IRCC initial bought into the false Russian charges. Obviously if you claim asylum from a country and you have a somewhat visible profile, your native country will most likely retaliate. You would think that was obvious lol
 
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armoured

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I think I read about that in the news. The woman never even left Canada and applied as soon as she was eligible. And I recall correctly, she fled Russia for her safety so it was kind of ironic that IRCC initial bought into the false Russian charges. Obviously if you claim asylum from a country and you have a somewhat visible profile, your native country will most likely retaliate. You would think that was obvious lol
Yes, it was laughable and idiotic - except for being scary for her. And the charges clearly politically motivated. Now note, I don't think the woman was here as a refugee/protected person (which shouldn't surprise anyone - coming under other programs is usually a lot easier); perhaps the analyst or officer didn't twig to the issue because of that. I'm pretty confident a more experienced officer/program manager would have stopped this before it got out of hand - but she still shouldn't have been subjected to that.

And it does raise a serious issue, of how foreign/Canadian courts deal with charges from countries that like to pursue their enemies (internal and otherwise) using the judicial system.

Hopefully this only comes up (extremely) rarely. This woman did the right thing by reporting it to IRCC before getting citizenship - because not disclosing it could (hypothetically) leave one open to a misrepresentation/revocation issue down the road.
 
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HardikD

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This is what i found online if anyone invited for pasport pilot program

Advantages:

  1. You don't need to submit your citizenship certificate for a passport
  2. You don't need a guarantor for your passport photos
  3. You don't need to go to service canada for your passport
  4. Super fast processing
 

moman21

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Yes, it was laughable and idiotic - except for being scary for her. And the charges clearly politically motivated. Now note, I don't think the woman was here as a refugee/protected person (which shouldn't surprise anyone - coming under other programs is usually a lot easier); perhaps the analyst or officer didn't twig to the issue because of that. I'm pretty confident a more experienced officer/program manager would have stopped this before it got out of hand - but she still shouldn't have been subjected to that.

And it does raise a serious issue, of how foreign/Canadian courts deal with charges from countries that like to pursue their enemies (internal and otherwise) using the judicial system.

Hopefully this only comes up (extremely) rarely. This woman did the right thing by reporting it to IRCC before getting citizenship - because not disclosing it could (hypothetically) leave one open to a misrepresentation/revocation issue down the road.
You're correct. What's scary is if the applicant doesn't even know what their former country has issued against them. It may look like wilful lying/omission.
 

moman21

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This is what i found online if anyone invited for pasport pilot program

Advantages:

  1. You don't need to submit your citizenship certificate for a passport
  2. You don't need a guarantor for your passport photos
  3. You don't need to go to service canada for your passport
  4. Super fast processing
Yeah @USProgrammer mentioned thus a few weeks ago. I sure hope I get offered this option cause I do not enjoy standing in lines for applications
 
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