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[wierdaf]

How the fuck Canada is still one most the most desirable countries for immigrants. The shit I have seen here in the last couple of weeks and the pace at which this country is going downhill, it’s the least desirable option for me right now unless the negatives I’m hearing are blown out of proportion.

its not the most desirable by any measure and most people here, including me, are aware of that, its just the most practical and easiest alternative to the insanity in our respective home countries. Given a choice of getting PR in any of the western countries, most of us here, would not choose to go to Canada. But that option is not there, hence here we are.

 

[Impatient Dankaroo]

its not the most desirable by any measure and most people here, including me, are aware of that, its just the most practical and easiest alternative to the insanity in our respective home countries. Given a choice of getting PR in any of the western countries, most of us here, would not choose to go to Canada. But that option is not there, hence here we are.

Not really. For me, the only country I would rather go if permanent status was easier is the US. Europe doesn't excite me like it does other people here. Simply because, as non-whites, we will always be 2nd class citizens. US, Canada is more about the ideas and values rather than race.

As a brown, you will always be a brown-british in the UK, never a British

 

[wierdaf]

its not the most desirable by any measure and most people here, including me, are aware of that, its just the most practical and easiest alternative to the insanity in our respective home countries. Given a choice of getting PR in any of the western countries, most of us here, would not choose to go to Canada. But that option is not there, hence here we are.

But, it is the most desirable for the low-skilled outlanders who somehow managed to get the score high enough but know that they are not well-suited in a free market economy and ambitious job market or the pseudo-high skilled CEC. It is ideal for those who plan to sponge off state benefits and retirement pensions and plan to sponsor their entire family composition to come to Canada so that they can collectively bankrupt the government, pay $1 is taxes and cry foul over it for the rest of their lives, believe that healthcare and benefits are 'free' and are uneducated enough to realise that its collected in the form of taxes and other mandatory contributions to social security schemes and so on and so forth

 

[Impatient Dankaroo]

But, it is the most desirable for the low-skilled outlanders who somehow managed to get the score high enough but know that they are not well-suited in a free market economy and ambitious job market or the pseudo-high skilled CEC. It is ideal for those who plan to sponge off state benefits and retirement pensions and plan to sponsor their entire family composition to come to Canada so that they can collectively bankrupt the government, pay $1 is taxes and cry foul over it for the rest of their lives, believe that healthcare and benefits are 'free' and are uneducated enough to realise that its collected in the form of taxes and other mandatory contributions to social security schemes and so on and so forth

I am not in favor of low-skilled CECs but just to counter your point, all these Western countries are taking in immigrants like the description you just gave. UK is taking many illegal migrants, same with Germany. This is not a problem limited to Canada. US is even flying illegals across various cities in the US. They can even vote in elections now as illegals

 

[wierdaf]

I am not in favor of low-skilled CECs but just to counter your point, all these Western countries are taking in immigrants like the description you just gave. UK is taking many illegal migrants, same with Germany. This is not a problem limited to Canada. US is even flying illegals across various cities in the US. They can even vote in elections now as illegals

They are not taking them. They are forced to, by the UN. If they do not take asylum claimants/refugees, the UN will restrict their heavily industrialised carbon loaded mess they create with their highly consumerized and use and throw economy that is prevalent in their society and they'd be exposing themselves to international sanctions. The UN is not able to force such mandates on the lesser developed countries, because firstly they are not part of the treaty provisioning such asylum or refugee claims, I don't remember the exact name of the treaty, and secondly, these countries have still not reached a level of development where a majority of their own native population has been elevated from poverty. It has a lot to do with GDP per capita.

 

[Impatient Dankaroo]

Going by that logic, nobody is truly British today. More than half the British population is migrant today whether it be first generation or the 10th.

And secondly, in Britain, everybody still maintains and is encouraged to celebrate their original roots. In America and Canada (to some extent), you are encouraged or rather pushed to be American/Canadian first and Indian/Pakistani/Asian/African after that.

And again, it totally depends on the kind of demographics of your circle, a lot of brown people or other third world immigrants in Britain, tend to socialise according to their race, they might interact with others from similar races, but they never go all out to integrate in the society. As an Indian, who has worked extensively with people from all geographies ranging from Americans to Far East Asians, and having lived in Britain for a brief time, I have never encountered a single incident where I felt that I am being looked upon differently. I do get a lot of vibes from similar Indians/pakistanis that just because we were born in similar cultures, we should be acquainted or hand out favours to each other or form a sort of cult, however, I do not entertain them cz I do not subscribe to such ideology. It all depends on the kind of people you deal with, if you engage with rowdy uneducated whites or the guys from the hood, as they call them in the US or 'brave and chavs' as they are called in the UK, you will definitely be treated differently, because they are uneducated and not used to seeing or interacting with people who look different to them. Its really not that different to being a typical North Indian guy in a South Indian village. You'd get the same weird different racialised treatment there too. And trust me, whites are the most accommodating people today, their white supremacy of yesteryears has now been turned to white guilt by the woke generation in the name of diversity and they go out of their way to make you feel welcome and comfortable in their community.

I am glad that was your experience in the UK. I have met a few british, the higher class or elites that go to private schools and then Oxford/Cambridges, and their belief of Anglo-Saxon identity and supremancy of UK still exists today. But let's say the majority of UK is not like that. If I was Indian, which I am not, going to UK and contributing to their economy and benefiting their people after their history of subjugation and colonization doesn't feel right to me (and similar or Euro countries). At least Canada/US, although not perfect in reality, endorses policy of moving for a better life for all. Just my opinion, though

 

[wonderbly]

Another admirable feat by IRCC and Canada govt:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1489006146799255556

 

[wonderbly]

And meet Candice Bergen , the freshly appointed interim leader of the Conservative Party:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1489053070826913793

 

[shergill12]

raise a case inquiry and request for reconsideration. They are allowing reopening even those apps in which the PCC was missing, you should be fine i think.

I have done that and I hope so they do repoen thanks for responding

 

[GandiBaat]

And meet Candice Bergen , the freshly appointed interim leader of the Conservative Party:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1489053070826913793

She looks ...... Crazy.... Like Sarah Palin Crazy.

 

[wierdaf]

I am glad that was your experience in the UK. I have met a few british, the higher class or elites that go to private schools and then Oxford/Cambridges, and their belief of Anglo-Saxon identity and supremancy of UK still exists today. But let's say the majority of UK is not like that. If I was Indian, which I am not, going to UK and contributing to their economy and benefiting their people after their history of subjugation and colonization doesn't feel right to me (and similar or Euro countries). At least Canada/US, although not perfect in reality, endorses policy of moving for a better life for all. Just my opinion, though

Well, a society can never be perfect am I right? There will always be some unworthy creatures who are where they are, but were not supposed to be, such is life. But, I agree with one of your points regarding the progressive outlook of America and Canada with regard to race and ethnic identity. Probably, the reason is that both these countries were historically inhabited by people from Western Europe, who were misfits in their society. By misfits I mean overly ambitious, progressive mindset and such. If you try to get in-depth into the issue, you'll find that Europe as a society has always been about culture and traditions. For instance, they believe in socialism rather than capitalism, and to some extent the European society today (including the UK) has become kind of communistic. Not politically communist, but in the sense that the rich are being looted to feed the poor or sometimes even those who do not want to earn anything intentionally. Wealth creation is passively discouraged in most of these countries and egalitarian policies have become detrimental to personal economic growth to some extent. You can be looking at parting with as much as 60-70% of your income in the form of taxes or other mandatory contributions to the government. And this philosophy was always prevalent in some form or other in Europe, whereas there were always some people in their population who were more of a capitalist inclined and encouraged everyone to their own culture. It was most of these people who migrated to America and Canada to create a more fast paced, efficient, and prosperous economy than their motherland. This is what kind of made the American economy so resilient over the last few decades.

 

[GandiBaat]

Another admirable feat by IRCC and Canada govt:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1489006146799255556

People were not joking when they said IRCC will evacuate dogs and cats before they will process our applications.... Know you place folks....

 

[wonderbly]

She looks ...... Crazy.... Like Sarah Palin Crazy.

Same vibes I got. She looks like an Extremist Extraordinaire .
I'm not sure conservatives are putting their best foot forward. It's like they wanna remain an opposition party forever.

 

[Impatient Dankaroo]

She looks ...... Crazy.... Like Sarah Palin Crazy.

Fortunately, the interim leader is not eligible for permanent leader. She is just a placeholder @wonderbly

 

[wonderbly]

Fortunately, the interim leader is not eligible for permanent leader. She is just a placeholder @wonderbly

What a relief!!!