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Does contractor Work Counts for Express Entry?

Mar11

Newbie
Oct 29, 2021
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Hello Forum,
I would like to ask some questions about my possibilities to apply for express entry or other pathways


FACTS

Mexican citizen.
Canadian Temporary Resident
5+ years of experience in NOC 1122 in Mexico. Bussines Management Consultant- (My expertise is on Team Building and Transformation Processes)
Mexican Undergraduate Degree in Psychology
Canadian Film Arts Degree (1 year)
I'm under PGWP until April next year.
I'm doing CELPIP in two weeks. My guess is I will have at least 8 points in each.
Single
Two cousins that are a citizen
41 years
15 years + experience in Mexico
Last 5 years as self-employed on my own bussines
No Canadian experience
I have been offered a job as a contractor as the transformation director of a small organization


Questions,

FEDERAL SKILL WORKER

1. Can I apply for the Federal Skilled Worker Program without Canadian Job experience?
2. How many points do I need?

I understand a job offer gives more points
I have been offered a Contractor Job as a Transformation Director (Role is leading the cultural transformation of the organization)

Does this count as experience towards Express Entry?
They are open to making an indefinite job offer.
In order for it to count for Express Entry, does it have to be as an employee or it can also be as Contractor?

CANDIAN EXPERIENCE CLASS

Another option I am considering is applying for CEC which I understand needs one year of Canadian work experience... my PGWP finishes in April next year... (only 6 months left) What would be the best way to extend my work permit?

I was thinking about NAFTA because the job is under NAFTA professions (Psychology and or Management Counselors).

Is that enough to not present LMIA in my express entry application?
How long is the process?
When should I apply? (ensuring I don't have a gap in my job permit)

If I am working under PGWP or NAFTA I don't need to present LMIA on my express entry application, either FSW or CEC is this correct?
Does anybody know when is FSW open again?
Would you recommend creating my profile now or waiting until I have 1 year of Canadian experience?

and lastly,

SELF EMPLOYED
Any information applying as a Self Employed? How easy is it? How long does it take?


Thank you very much for your help!
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
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Hello Forum,
I would like to ask some questions about my possibilities to apply for express entry or other pathways


FACTS

Mexican citizen.
Canadian Temporary Resident
5+ years of experience in NOC 1122 in Mexico. Bussines Management Consultant- (My expertise is on Team Building and Transformation Processes)
Mexican Undergraduate Degree in Psychology
Canadian Film Arts Degree (1 year)
I'm under PGWP until April next year.
I'm doing CELPIP in two weeks. My guess is I will have at least 8 points in each.
Single
Two cousins that are a citizen
41 years
15 years + experience in Mexico
Last 5 years as self-employed on my own bussines
No Canadian experience
I have been offered a job as a contractor as the transformation director of a small organization


Questions,

FEDERAL SKILL WORKER

1. Can I apply for the Federal Skilled Worker Program without Canadian Job experience?
2. How many points do I need?

I understand a job offer gives more points
I have been offered a Contractor Job as a Transformation Director (Role is leading the cultural transformation of the organization)

Does this count as experience towards Express Entry?
They are open to making an indefinite job offer.
In order for it to count for Express Entry, does it have to be as an employee or it can also be as Contractor?

CANDIAN EXPERIENCE CLASS

Another option I am considering is applying for CEC which I understand needs one year of Canadian work experience... my PGWP finishes in April next year... (only 6 months left) What would be the best way to extend my work permit?

I was thinking about NAFTA because the job is under NAFTA professions (Psychology and or Management Counselors).

Is that enough to not present LMIA in my express entry application?
How long is the process?
When should I apply? (ensuring I don't have a gap in my job permit)

If I am working under PGWP or NAFTA I don't need to present LMIA on my express entry application, either FSW or CEC is this correct?
Does anybody know when is FSW open again?
Would you recommend creating my profile now or waiting until I have 1 year of Canadian experience?

and lastly,

SELF EMPLOYED
Any information applying as a Self Employed? How easy is it? How long does it take?


Thank you very much for your help!
- Yes, you can apply for Express Entry / Federal Skilled Worker without Canadian work experience.
- Yes, contract / consultant work experience can be counted as foreign work experience under FSW/EE.
- You want to score 470+ points to have a decent chance of being selected once draws resume.
- No one knows when FSW will start again.
- The self-employment stream is taking 2-3 years right now.
- A contract job offer cannot be indefinite. By it's very definition, a contract job has an end date. You would need to be an employee to be able to say that you have an indefinite job offer.
- If you want to qualify for the 50 job offer points while you are on a PGWP, your employer needs to obtain an approved LMIA.
- NAFTA no longer exists. You need to look at CUSMA. If you want to qualify for the 50 job offer points under a CUSMA work permit and without having your employer obtain an approved LMIA, you need to work for your employer for a full year first on the CUSMA work permit.
- If you want to continue working beyond the expiry of your PGWP, then you need a job offer that is supported by an approved LMIA from your employer or you need to qualify for a work permit that is LMIA exempt or you must have already been selected for PR (received ITA) and have already submitted your complete application in order to qualify for a BOWP.
 

Naturgrl

VIP Member
Apr 5, 2020
43,875
9,242
Just to add the self employment stream is only for certain NOCs (cultural, arts, sports etc.) As for the USMCA work permit, it has specific conditions and only a select list of NOCs that must match your job description/offer. So you mentioned psychology, you would need a job offer for that NOC and licensing for the province you would practice. In Canada to practice as a psychologist you need a PhD. Some provinces accept Masters.
 

Mar11

Newbie
Oct 29, 2021
3
0
- Yes, you can apply for Express Entry / Federal Skilled Worker without Canadian work experience.
- Yes, contract / consultant work experience can be counted as foreign work experience under FSW/EE.
- You want to score 470+ points to have a decent chance of being selected once draws resume.
- No one knows when FSW will start again.
- The self-employment stream is taking 2-3 years right now.
- A contract job offer cannot be indefinite. By it's very definition, a contract job has an end date. You would need to be an employee to be able to say that you have an indefinite job offer.
- If you want to qualify for the 50 job offer points while you are on a PGWP, your employer needs to obtain an approved LMIA.
- NAFTA no longer exists. You need to look at CUSMA. If you want to qualify for the 50 job offer points under a CUSMA work permit and without having your employer obtain an approved LMIA, you need to work for your employer for a full year first on the CUSMA work permit.
- If you want to continue working beyond the expiry of your PGWP, then you need a job offer that is supported by an approved LMIA from your employer or you need to qualify for a work permit that is LMIA exempt or you must have already been selected for PR (received ITA) and have already submitted your complete application in order to qualify for a BOWP.
Thank you very much scylla I will look into all the information you shared and update it here for other members.
 

Mar11

Newbie
Oct 29, 2021
3
0
Just to add the self employment stream is only for certain NOCs (cultural, arts, sports etc.) As for the USMCA work permit, it has specific conditions and only a select list of NOCs that must match your job description/offer. So you mentioned psychology, you would need a job offer for that NOC and licensing for the province you would practice. In Canada to practice as a psychologist you need a PhD. Some provinces accept Masters.
Thank you very much Naturgrl I will look into all the information you shared and update it here for other members.