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[dxdroid]

I don't get why people are taking the reduced CEC draw sizes as positive. It's common knowledge at this point that they've diverted resources to process refugee apps. CEC draw sizes have nothing to do with express entry.

Oh I forgot

@dxdroid I'm just trolling you haha. Glad you're overwhelmingly positive (even if I find it a bit distasteful) but hey I'm sure the majority here doesn't like me, and we're allowed to disagree

I know man - it is what it is and we do not know what the f*** is happening
Only Canadian Government and IRCC knows what they are doing We can only watch as spectators from the side

 

[dxdroid]

Except that CEC draw sizes started dropping from late July when the Afghan situation hadn’t taken a completely different turn

We still have 29th of September I am hopeful I will not say forever hopeful but I still think something will happen soon enough. It is just waiting game and it is just my own personal opinion. Lets see what will happen.

 

[Carmen01]

I’m so confused at this point, cause you are all giving different opinions and ideas. I appreciate it! Don’t get me wrong, but are we agreed that you can create a completely different profile with a diff GC key and get no repercussions as long as you delete said profile as soon as you get ITA on the other yea ?

DON’T DO IT!!

 

[Deleted member 1006777]

Except that CEC draw sizes started dropping from late July when the Afghan situation hadn’t taken a completely different turn

Hm that's fair. I just don't see this as some grand positive thing that's indicating positive news for FSW. They've almost if not completely, reached the annual ITA target (assuming 100% processing). The vast vast majority of these people are already in Canada, so the landed immigrants are probably closer to the number ITAs issued compared to previous years' averages. It's not really that strange that they're just gradually reducing draws to lower amounts for the rest of the year.

 

[dxdroid]

Hm that's fair. I just don't see this as some grand positive thing that's indicating positive news for FSW. They've almost if not completely, reached the annual ITA target (assuming 100% processing). The vast vast majority of these people are already in Canada, so the landed immigrants are probably closer to the number ITAs issued compared to previous years' averages. It's not really that strange that they're just gradually reducing draws to lower amounts for the rest of the year.

Again why people are talking about ITA targets. Target is for landed immigrant not the amount of ITAs So even they have over 100 000k ITAs this year they will not land 100 000 immigrants this year. Do you get the point?

 

[dxdroid]

Hm that's fair. I just don't see this as some grand positive thing that's indicating positive news for FSW. They've almost if not completely, reached the annual ITA target (assuming 100% processing). The vast vast majority of these people are already in Canada, so the landed immigrants are probably closer to the number ITAs issued compared to previous years' averages. It's not really that strange that they're just gradually reducing draws to lower amounts for the rest of the year.

They still need to invite people for the next year, year after etc.

 

[Carmen01]

Alberta just declared state of public health emergency…tsk tsk tsk.
Must be a different virus in Canada because the rest of the world has moved on.

 

[Santaclause]

Slightly different perspective:
A lot of people have put forward cogent arguments how circumstances were different when applications were canceled in the past and won't/can't happen now. Common arguments are:
-Files were paper based, system needed to change.
-Economy of Canada was changing and no longer needed certain NOCs.

If you look at present situation, those reasons are somewhat applicable even today:
-Canada wants to target certain NOCs now (Hint: new immigration system that is expected to be announced soon) and perhaps the long list of Apps already in post AOR have NOCs which are not relevant to the current labor market.
-Second, Canadian labor market has suffered enormous job loses due to businesses closures during pandemic which has changed the economic landscape and needs of Canada. Therefore, enormous amount of people in the backlog (mostly FSWs) are no longer needed at present time since there aren't that many job available.
Conclusion: If Canada wants to cancel Apps in backlog, they can, same circumstances are present as they were in the past when Apps were canceled.

 

[Deleted member 1006777]

I suffered a lot without a PR in America for 7 years. My ex-employer and ex-boss abused me. He pointed to 7% rule or the country wise quota rule in US green card application and said "we don't need a lot of you here". He meant that there are too many Indians and that 7% rule is there for good reason to keep out indians. He said this on two different 1:1 meetings. My ex-manager himself is a son of a south American immigrant.

PR means lot to me. It saves you from this kind of abuse. I complained and two review cycles later a case was made against using one off incidents to give me lower rating and eventually tagged for the next round of lay off.
This was just one of many things I suffered in that company, under that mentally unstable manager. I was treated like a second class citizen.

Sorry for the sudden rant.

Hey with C-24, you will have the opportunity to continue being a second class citizen in Canada xD

 

[dxdroid]

Slightly different perspective:
A lot of people have put forward cogent arguments how circumstances were different when applications were canceled in the past and won't/can't happen now. Common arguments are:
-Files were paper based, system needed to change.
-Economy of Canada was changing and no longer needed certain NOCs.

If you look at present situation, those reasons are somewhat applicable even today:
-Canada wants to target certain NOCs now (Hint: new immigration system that is expected to be announced soon) and perhaps the long list of Apps already in post AOR have NOCs which are not relevant to the current labor market.
-Second, Canadian labor market has suffered enormous job loses due to businesses closures during pandemic which has changed the economic landscape and needs of Canada. Therefore, enormous amount of people in the backlog (mostly FSWs) are no longer needed at present time since there aren't that many job available.
Conclusion: If Canada wants to cancel Apps in backlog, they can, same circumstances are present as they were in the past when Apps were canceled.

We can argue with your statements. What made you think saying that FSW candidates will not find jobs because of job losses etc. Do you actually know which sectors were hit the most? I guarantee you that most applicants that are coming from FSW are not coming to work in those sectors IT, Finances, Health Care etc. these sectors are booming and need crazy amount of workers. So this argument falls apart and I don't understand why people are talking about that one? Just enumerate the sectors that got a job loses and we can talk then. As I have mentioned there are plenty of jobs for FSW candidates.

I agree with the part that the system needs to revisit the NOC codes etc. so they will be able to target people more specific which is fair I think. There are crazy amount of stories of FSW candidates coming over to Canada as high skilled workers without being able to work in their field.

The point is that the new system will take time to develop and to introduce new policies for it also will take time and it will not happen in just few months

 

[dxdroid]

Alberta just declared state of public health emergency…tsk tsk tsk.
Must be a different virus in Canada because the rest of the world has moved on.

I read about it but they are just talking about introducing Vaccine Certificates etc. nothing new. They have apologised for being wrong etc. etc. Nothing crazy

 

[Psyoptica]

Slightly different perspective:
A lot of people have put forward cogent arguments how circumstances were different when applications were canceled in the past and won't/can't happen now. Common arguments are:
-Files were paper based, system needed to change.
-Economy of Canada was changing and no longer needed certain NOCs.

If you look at present situation, those reasons are somewhat applicable even today:
-Canada wants to target certain NOCs now (Hint: new immigration system that is expected to be announced soon) and perhaps the long list of Apps already in post AOR have NOCs which are not relevant to the current labor market.
-Second, Canadian labor market has suffered enormous job loses due to businesses closures during pandemic which has changed the economic landscape and needs of Canada. Therefore, enormous amount of people in the backlog (mostly FSWs) are no longer needed at present time since there aren't that many job available.
Conclusion: If Canada wants to cancel Apps in backlog, they can, same circumstances are present as they were in the past when Apps were canceled.

I doubt any changes to FSW will affect PR applicants overnight. IRCC is very capable of doing some stupid shit like that but even by their standards it will be too much. They much rather complete the pending applications than having to fo through the hassle of refunding application fees, justifying their decision and tarnishing their good image. Nevertheless it’s still a possibility that can’t be discounted and this is the reason people shouldn’t depend too much on the Canada PR and look for other avenues for immigration as well.

 

[dxdroid]

I doubt any changes to FSW will affect PR applicants overnight. IRCC is very capable of doing some stupid shit like that but even by their standards it will be too much. They much rather complete the pending applications than having to fo through the hassle of refunding application fees, justify their decision and tarnishing their good image. Nevertheless it’s still a possibility that can’t be discounted and this is the reason people shouldn’t depend too much on the Canada PR and look for other avenues for immigration as well.

It is really unlikely decision and it will have a long term impact on the whole Canadian Immigration system, country, government etc. They could damage their name for a loooong time and lose a lot of people. I do not think it will happen. For us it will be a huge dissapointment if we will not be able to move to Canada, however at least I have a person that I love, I have a job that I am happy of and I have a healthy family and THE PUG

 

[Psyoptica]

For us it will be a huge dissapointment if we will not be able to move to Canada, however at least I have a person that I love, I have a job that I am happy of and I have a healthy family and THE PUG

Honestly that’s all that matters in the grand scheme of things.

 

[arvind92]

You know how to troll me hahahaha

Ha ha there is a saying in my area(Almost everyone here has a pug)

it is hard to figure out which side of the pug is it...is it the face or is it the bottom....