Petition to add siblings to family category

[hawk39]

I am surprised to see that Canadians are lacking compassion here. I thought Canadians welcome everyone with open arms. So sorry that there is no compassion. Everyone is talking by the book and what the law is right now. But not recognizing the need of it.

Sorry that you see it that way, but like every other country in the world, Canada is a nation based on its laws. You are not seeing the potential abuse and future ramifications of allowing sibling sponsorship. It's not just your siblings who would be eligible, but your parents' siblings, your in-law's siblings, and your siblings' parents-in-law siblings and all of their spouses and dependent children that could also be eligible; hence such family reunification policies have earned the notorious term 'chain migration'.

 

[canuck78]

I am surprised to see that Canadians are lacking compassion here. I thought Canadians welcome everyone with open arms. So sorry that there is no compassion. Everyone is talking by the book and what the law is right now. But not recognizing the need of it.

Nobody is against siblings immigrating to Canada. It is the way you want Canada to allow sibling immigration. Except for things like asylum, Canada wants/needs young people to immigrate to fill labour and skill shortages. Most of the immigration programs are not based on compassionate reasons. Immigrants coming to Canada also immigrate seeking a better quality of life or better opportunities. Siblings can work towards economic immigration like every other person wanting to immigrate. Not sure why you think that being a sibling of a Canadian citizen or PR would allow a person to qualify for immigration even if they don’t have English/French language skills, many children, no postsecondary education, etc. while others wanting to immigrate have to work hard and meet various requirements to qualify.

 

[Western Mountain Man]

It's very easy for you to say this book a flight and go. Wear the shoes of those people who actually have to do that. Have lost siblings/family members but were not able to see for one last time. saying with peace in mind.

It's not always what's in it for me. Sometimes its for humanity too...

a humble request to everyone..
But if you don't agree please don't sign it but don't try to see what's in it for me.

My shoes have many holes.
Take a printout of the petition and put it on the wall when you're finished, then go talk with your MP and see what they think.

There are more valuable things you can do.

 

[neettaneja]

Yes may be it was flawed before. But they can design it in a way that chain migration doesn’t happen.

• Income eligibility. Eliminates parents/grandparents/in-laws from sponsoring their siblings.
• Have a guideline that while you are still under a sponsorship undertaking you can’t sponsor anyone other than your spouse/children. 10 years no chain migration.
• You can undertake only 4 family members at a time depends on your income.
• Who says this category will not bring young generation?
• USA/UK supports and do have some kind of policies to sponsor your siblings.
• Who is saying bring uneducated siblings? I myself is not in favor of this. Keep a mandatory High School or university level education and basic English speaking skills. Our refugee system don’t have that mandatory. Still we are bringing refugees every year.
• CANADA is doing everything to keep the world happy but when it comes to Canadian’s well being and help they have better things to do. WOW…..
• CHARITY BEGINS FROM HOME…….
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• We can keep going with the arguments your point of view and my point of view but the fact is that system need to have some kind of provision for siblings. You can’t even get a visit visa for siblings they get refused. Even if you have good business, house, money everything they get refused by saying that we believe that you will not come back. That’s what Canada’s policy is.

 

[rt865]

I am surprised to see that Canadians are lacking compassion here. I thought Canadians welcome everyone with open arms. So sorry that there is no compassion. Everyone is talking by the book and what the law is right now. But not recognizing the need of it.

This has nothing to do with Canadians lacking compassion. People don't want to live in a country with open borders and would like to maintain the standard of living that Canada provides.

Our refugee system don’t have that mandatory. Still we are bringing refugees every year.

Yes, there is a difference between a refugee and an immigrant.

There is nothing stopping your siblings from applying to immigrate to Canada based on their own merits.

 

[neettaneja]

bump

 

[neettaneja]

Here is the comment from one of signer.. There is alot to think about

Kulwant k·
I am senior citizen. Me & my husband moved to Canada with one of our child and our family is seperated across the world. We want our children to reunite in Canada before we complete our journey of life. For parent their children are their family no matter how old they are. Look at it from our point of view.

 

[scylla]

Here is the comment from one of signer.. There is alot to think about

Kulwant k·
I am senior citizen. Me & my husband moved to Canada with one of our child and our family is seperated across the world. We want our children to reunite in Canada before we complete our journey of life. For parent their children are their family no matter how old they are. Look at it from our point of view.

I'll be transparent why I haven't signed. As I'm sure you appreciate, everyone is entitled to their opinion here just as you are.

- The way the petition is structured requests a fully open program where you can sponsor your siblings as soon as you qualify. This means this program would have preference over parent/grandparent sponsorship. I think parent/grandparent sponsorship should have preference over sibling sponsorship in terms of family reunification. I can see why sibling sponsorship is a priority for anyone whose parents have already been sponsored to Canada (or perhaps where they are deceased). However there are many on this forum who are desperate to sponsor their parents and haven't been selected for years despite qualifying.
- The petition doesn't the address the financial obligations of the sponsor with regards to the sibling being sponsored and their family members. This is an important factor for me. I believe the obligation should be 20 years similar to parent/grandparent sponsorship.

Good luck with the petition. I think it's good for people to pursue what is a priority for them - but at the same time to respect if others have different viewpoints.

 

[neettaneja]

I'll be transparent why I haven't signed. As I'm sure you appreciate, everyone is entitled to their opinion here just as you are.

- The way the petition is structured requests a fully open program where you can sponsor your siblings as soon as you qualify. This means this program would have preference over parent/grandparent sponsorship. I think parent/grandparent sponsorship should have preference over sibling sponsorship in terms of family reunification. I can see why sibling sponsorship is a priority for anyone whose parents have already been sponsored to Canada (or perhaps where they are deceased). However there are many on this forum who are desperate to sponsor their parents and haven't been selected for years despite qualifying.
- The petition doesn't the address the financial obligations of the sponsor with regards to the sibling being sponsored and their family members. This is an important factor for me. I believe the obligation should be 20 years similar to parent/grandparent sponsorship.

Good luck with the petition. I think it's good for people to pursue what is a priority for them - but at the same time to respect if others have different viewpoints.

Hi. Thank you for your reply. I never meant to have this as open program. Ofcourse it should have financial obligations of the sponsor with regards to the sibling being sponsored and their family members and they should not be able to sponsor their sbilings until they are under this sponsorship obligation. I think I did mention about it.

I would take your tips on this and will ask your help to word it properly and make a change in the petition.

 

[canuck78]

Yes may be it was flawed before. But they can design it in a way that chain migration doesn’t happen.

• Income eligibility. Eliminates parents/grandparents/in-laws from sponsoring their siblings.
• Have a guideline that while you are still under a sponsorship undertaking you can’t sponsor anyone other than your spouse/children. 10 years no chain migration.
• You can undertake only 4 family members at a time depends on your income.
• Who says this category will not bring young generation?
• USA/UK supports and do have some kind of policies to sponsor your siblings.
• Who is saying bring uneducated siblings? I myself is not in favor of this. Keep a mandatory High School or university level education and basic English speaking skills. Our refugee system don’t have that mandatory. Still we are bringing refugees every year.
• CANADA is doing everything to keep the world happy but when it comes to Canadian’s well being and help they have better things to do. WOW…..
• CHARITY BEGINS FROM HOME…….
• 
  
• 
  
• We can keep going with the arguments your point of view and my point of view but the fact is that system need to have some kind of provision for siblings. You can’t even get a visit visa for siblings they get refused. Even if you have good business, house, money everything they get refused by saying that we believe that you will not come back. That’s what Canada’s policy is.

You can’t compare refugees to sibling sponsorship. Refugees have no home. Asylum seekers are being persecuted and their lives are at risk. Asylum is a humanitarian program and is only a small fraction of Canada’s overall immigration.

High school graduation is not considered educated these days. Some further training/apprenticeship, college or university is required for most skilled or partly skilled jobs these days. Seniors with income streams (even passive ones) could still easily meet LICO. So yes seniors could sponsor more seniors. Based on your plan if you got sponsored you couldn’t sponsor anyone else but that doesn’t stop one sibling from sponsoring all their siblings and parents. After the 10 years the sibling that can then sponsor all the siblings-in-laws. Still creates a large volume of immigration where Canada hasn’t determined whether they have the skills needed to help the Canadian economy and just creates a modified delayed chain migration. Canada wants younger immigrants for a variety of reasons and younger immigrants are actually more successful longer given their longer time to integrate into Canada and the Canadian labour force. If you allowed to sponsor siblings Canada could end up with many siblings and their family that are over 40. If siblings have university degree or better and good English skills they may qualify for economic immigration or can work towards qualifying for economic immigration. A visitor applying to visit Canada is assessed on their own assets, ties, international, etc. and not on their relative in Canada. You can still visit family in your home country if they get refused. There is already the lonely Canadian program where you can sponsor a sibling if your parents are deceased and you have no family in Canada.

Would add that normal immigration isn’t charity. Even when it comes to refugees Canada accepts a variety of refugees. They select a certain quota for humanitarian and compassionate reasons but many others are selected because they think they have the ability to become productive members of the Canadian economy and will be able to integrate easily.