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boilercat

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Yeah it was already shared here. If it is true then I see no reason why IRCC isn't already raining PPRs since CoPRs are now exempt from restrictions. Logic seems to be long gone in IRCC's operations. Tourists will start entering Canada in a week and look at the stuff we're talking about.
No procedural fairness and human rights for outlanders.
 

yjus

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Yeah it was already shared here. If it is true then I see no reason why IRCC isn't already raining PPRs since CoPRs are now exempt from restrictions. Logic seems to be long gone in IRCC's operations. Tourists will start entering Canada in a week and look at the stuff we're talking about.
I think we need to be a little bit more patient. CoPR travel exemption introduced less than 1.5 month ago. This isn't enough time to start seeing things moving, I'd say at least 2 more months before we all see the real effect of that decision in IRCC's work.
Like everything else IRCC also was caught off guard to pandemic, they weren't ready at all for this situation. Hoping for the best for all of us.
 
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I think we need to be a little bit more patient. CoPR travel exemption introduced less than 1.5 month ago. This isn't enough time to start seeing things moving, I'd say at least 2 more months before we all see the real effect of that decision in IRCC's work.
Like everything else IRCC also was caught off guard to pandemic, they weren't ready at all for this situation. Hoping for the best for all of us.
CoPR to PPR doesn't usually take that long. I don't see why it should now if they're all back to the office.
 

yjus

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CoPR to PPR doesn't usually take that long. I don't see why it should now if they're all back to the office.
None of us have full understanding how things are done inside IRCC , that is why difficult to say how they are operating under pandemic conditions. Apparently, they made some decisions about CEC applicants, maybe want to finish off current applications before leaving them unfinished and jumping into outlanders applications. Again, it is just speculation, but wouldn't ne surprised if that is the case.
 

Jaycejay

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None of us have full understanding how things are done inside IRCC , that is why difficult to say how they are operating under pandemic conditions. Apparently, they made some decisions about CEC applicants, maybe want to finish off current applications before leaving them unfinished and jumping into outlanders applications. Again, it is just speculation, but wouldn't ne surprised if that is the case.
Even CEC inland applicants with outland dependents have started getting PPRs in significant numbers. It’s a good sign that they are now working on outland applications and I’m hoping this will soon transcend to other FSW and PNP-O
 
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yjus

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Even CEC inland applicants with outland dependents have started getting PPRs in significant numbers. It’s a good sign that they are now working on outland applications and I’m hoping this will soon transcend to other FSW and PNP-O
Yes, things won't change overnight. Especially, they have huge backlog, the situation with covid is volatile. It must be difficult for them to make sudden changes in their strategy. But I think we'll see more PPR-s for paused outlands applications in fall if things with corona doesn't get worse.
 
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Jaycejay

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With this backlashing, one thing is sure..They wont do all program draw. Sadly :(
As long as they keep inviting CEC applicants the backlog will remain. If I was a post-AOR FSW-O I would hope they start conducting all program draws soon because such draws will have less CEC candidates so apparently IRCC would have less CEC applications to work on and since they have been the priority in terms of processing, they can then focus on finalizing other outland applications.
 

aseemrastogi2

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Not sure how they will do all class draws if they have so many backlogs. They not only have PR backlogs but record-high Citizenship backlogs. No wonder IRCC is delaying the draw. Also, it's already Aug, and I don't think they will still be processing study visas for classes that are starting in just 1 month.
Yeah actually even I was wondering that they would have already processed most study visas if not all by now as the classes start in September. Moreover, with tourists supposed to be arriving in about a week, wouldn't there be tourist visas being processed now as well?
 

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Lack of transparency is the issue here. We cannot predict what is in the mind of Marco and his deputy.
Exactly. I think most people are understanding of the challenges faced by IRCC but they are not doing anyone any favors by keeping silent and not giving any clarity on what their plan of action is. If they do that, I’m sure it would calm everyone down.
 

cansha

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One thing I don't understand is why a system like LMIA exists and not allowing employers to hire people from outside freely. I think this is the main reason why Canada need high levels of immigration every year.
Yeah but it is probably a reflection of how PR worked for Canada. If you are bringing in tons of PR and then companies don't consider them for jobs and keep hiring from outside that would make situation worse. But I think you have a fair point. If government does retire FSW-O program they should get rid of LMIA restriction.
 

Timbuktu_14

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Not sure how they will do all class draws if they have so many backlogs. They not only have PR backlogs but record-high Citizenship backlogs. No wonder IRCC is delaying the draw. Also, it's already Aug, and I don't think they will still be processing study visas for classes that are starting in just 1 month.
Different officers for different programs so one backlog doesn't necessarily affect the others.

Meurrens posted this on Twitter yesterday: ''On April 14, 2020, the percent of staff on leave at Canada's major visa processing centers was: Mississauga - 81% Edmonton - 60% Sydney - 84% Ottawa - 78% I post this not to criticize prioritizing employee safety, but so people can understand part of why backlogs exist''.

It's safe to assume that this factor contributed majorly to these backlogs. Sydney and Ottawa are the two offices in Canada that process outland files, the others work on CEC/Inland files only. The sad truth is, we don't know if these officers have been asked to resume. Personally, I don't think they have resumed because if they honestly have, what are they doing at work that we are still experiencing this lag in delivery?

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Timbuktu_14

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Yeah actually even I was wondering that they would have already processed most study visas if not all by now as the classes start in September. Moreover, with tourists supposed to be arriving in about a week, wouldn't there be tourist visas being processed now as well?
Again, officers have their line of expertise. If all officers process all applications, there will be lack of judgements and that will flaw the programs integrity. I read some excerpts from the house of commons a while back; where Mendicino and his deputy were asked about who will be processing the TR to PR applications. He said the officers treating tourists visas are the ones that would be trained to treat these applications under the TR to PR pathways. Basically, the few working officers under the economic immigration categories are fully focused on the CEC applications.
 
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Timbuktu_14

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Peak tourism is right now. Tourism slows down from mid sep to feb due to snow and cold weather. The next season starts in Spring. So, less processing of study visas and comparably fewer tourist visas from sep. So what are the lazy IRCC frozen frogs are left with? PR and Citizenship applications. Hopefully, they process backlogs quickly in this off-season from Sep to Feb and conduct 1 all-class draw per month (I don't want to be optimistic).

https://www.authentikcanada.com/us-en/faq/when-to-visit-canada
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Timbuktu_14

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True. We may see raining PPR's soon.
I believe so too. The harsh truth is, it will be easier for officers to navigate through late 2020 and 2021 applications than 2019 applications. All of a sudden, the simplest application in 2019 is now a complex one. Some of the guys might need to do medicals again, collect PCCs and might also need to be checked for security again. Needless to say that some family composition would have changed as well. I just hope these officers would be lenient with the kind of requests they dole out.

If there's anyone from 2019 with expired PCCs or medicals, I'd advise that you get this done and submit via webform. One thing is certain - IRCC will finalize outland applications this year. Try to be proactive; to give the officers the chance to finalize your applications in a touch 'n' go style.
 
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Timbuktu_14

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Yeah but it is probably a reflection of how PR worked for Canada. If you are bringing in tons of PR and then companies don't consider them for jobs and keep hiring from outside that would make situation worse. But I think you have a fair point. If government does retire FSW-O program they should get rid of LMIA restriction.
This doesn't look a possibility in the nearest future. Asides needing immigrants to replace the aging population, Canada is also pretty big for such a small inhabitants. They might change the immigration style from time to time but it doesn't look like it's going anywhere anytime soon.