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Did hiring more workers in Sidney office make spousal sponsorship any faster?

HopefulLegend

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I have no insider knowledge on this.

But first: it's pretty clear that adding the staff in Sydney both sped things up for those at the early stages, and seems to have mostly cleared out the enormous backlog (given that from roughly March to October, AOR1s were just trickling out). Yes, there are a few files that have not received AOR - but very few (and who knows with those, perhaps sent back or something else happened). But basically the backlog has been cleared.

Going forward: I don't know what they'll do going forward. But I think just saying only 20% is done in Sydney and everything else is overseas where the real problems and delays are (with implication that staff needs to be hired in those offices) - it makes the assumption that IRCC's systems are not going to change and are still working with paper files as if it were 1995 or something.

Clearly IRCC wants to move to more digitisation where the physical location of the paper file is much less important - witness sending a lot of files to Beijing for some type of processing. Perhaps Sydney will take on more of the early stage analysis, maybe they'll take on more than 'just scanning', maybe they'll come up with a 'fast' procedure for simple files and the like. Maybe they'll stop moving the physical files anywhere at all and this means Sydney has to be beefed up (staff and physical space for archiving). Maybe they'll change the scanning process to include much more information and analysis and more usable digital files - but I don't know. In a world where the physical process has become desktop and phsyical files are dealt with as little as possible, a lot becomes redundant. (I personally would guess they'll move to a mostly digital process for family sponsorship in 1-5 years, but that they've accepted it can't be all digital).

As it is now, I suspect that only two people really "consult" the physical file in any depth - Sydney when scanning and checking for completeness, and the examining officer. But then another five-to-ten fold people are touching it and physically moving it during the process (not very efficient but made sense when it really was mostly paper processes, i.e. ten to twenty-five years ago, and everyone involved had to look at the physical file).

So going forward: I expect we'll see lots of little changes that seem odd at first that may mean more stuff happening in Sydney. And that may or may not mean more stuff in remote offices, or more staff, but it won't be one-to-one where applicants are from (leaving aside that quite a lot of files are mostly processed in Canada even now). Because it just doesn't matter for a lot of cases where the staff are. (Some of the changes with notifications around AOR1 - SA, bio, medical - hint at this, they seem to have decided that these don't need to be all at once, they're moving from more serial processing to more being done in parallel)

The other point is that lots of steps are done by outsiders like security checks and IRCC has little control - so it doesn't mean all files will be magically quicker. Countries that have more security issues and fraud will still take longer.

Plus there are still backlogs and logjams in procedures - interviews being the most notable right now. The transition to doing remote/virtual interviews has not been smooth or scaleable, and they must have an enormous backlog of those.
Is the examining officer in Sidney or in the PA's home country's VO?

Also, just because they're digitizing, I don't think that point necessarily addresses the original topic at hand. If the vast majority of delays are caused at the PA's VO where most of the processing take place, then regardless of whether the file is digital or physical, don't they still need more staff their? Isn't it the staff their that does a good bulk of the work beyond the initial AOR1, SA, etc?

There's no question that the AOR1 speed has gone up though. I was looking at the spreadsheet from last year, and waiting near 6 months for AORs was the norm, so things have undoubtedly sped up in that initial phase...
 

armoured

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Is the examining officer in Sidney or in the PA's home country's VO?

Also, just because they're digitizing, I don't think that point necessarily addresses the original topic at hand. If the vast majority of delays are caused at the PA's VO where most of the processing take place, then regardless of whether the file is digital or physical, don't they still need more staff their? Isn't it the staff their that does a good bulk of the work beyond the initial AOR1, SA, etc?

There's no question that the AOR1 speed has gone up though. I was looking at the spreadsheet from last year, and waiting near 6 months for AORs was the norm, so things have undoubtedly sped up in that initial phase...
The examining officer can be anywhere in the world. Traditionally either in Canada or in the regional hubs that cover various countries. But ircc has been switching things up sending files to china and also moving files from eg London to less busy offices elsewhere (like Warsaw or Vienna).

2020 periods of six months and even more were clearly covid related, ie the backlog. They've now returned to work timing quite similar to most of 2019.
 

HopefulLegend

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The examining officer can be anywhere in the world. Traditionally either in Canada or in the regional hubs that cover various countries. But ircc has been switching things up sending files to china and also moving files from eg London to less busy offices elsewhere (like Warsaw or Vienna).

2020 periods of six months and even more were clearly covid related, ie the backlog. They've now returned to work timing quite similar to most of 2019.
Gotcha. Since timings are returning to that 2019 level now, do you think the 12 month processing speed is realistic for most new applications that are sent after March 2021? I wonder since the 12 month timeline appears to be on the optimistic side of the spectrum since 2020 was nearly a write off for processing applications.
 

canuck78

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For sure about the back logs no 2 ways about that. This info was made very clear to all applicants via IRCC websites and social media platforms. I believe your point is true and similar to mine bt just in different words based from your experience or knowledge. Nice one

Based from my current processing, i would suggest people to either contact IRCC for updates rather than to keep thinking they are not working or things are slow or even complicated. Like I said from my experience and others I have been in contact with. Most cases were updated only after a contact was made or an MP involved.
Your case was not updated only because MP contacted them. I can only imagine that everyone will start contacting their MP. People need to expect some delays due to covid. Would suggest that people keep an eye on their file but realize it is normal not to hear anything in months so calling often or ordering GCMS notes frequently is unnecessary.
 

canuck78

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Gotcha. Since timings are returning to that 2019 level now, do you think the 12 month processing speed is realistic for most new applications that are sent after March 2021? I wonder since the 12 month timeline appears to be on the optimistic side of the spectrum since 2020 was nearly a write off for processing applications.
People have to remember that the covid situation has impacted some of the busiest visa centres so there will be delays just because of that. The UK had a very long lockdown and India had their serious 2nd wave. Realistically it will take at least another year to get back to precovid application times.
 

armoured

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Gotcha. Since timings are returning to that 2019 level now, do you think the 12 month processing speed is realistic for most new applications that are sent after March 2021? I wonder since the 12 month timeline appears to be on the optimistic side of the spectrum since 2020 was nearly a write off for processing applications.
Bluntly, too soon to say. It will also depend on developments in other countries.
 

Dimilitantey

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Your case was not updated only because MP contacted them. I can only imagine that everyone will start contacting their MP. People need to expect some delays due to covid. Would suggest that people keep an eye on their file but realize it is normal not to hear anything in months so calling often or ordering GCMS notes frequently is unnecessary.
Okay, 1st of all you right with expecting delays which I don't recall saying otherwise. And also never said anything about calling them frequently.

I only suggested that, those whose file haven't been opened and wondering why, should better contact them. At times this prompts them on files which might have been overlooked due to backlog. All my comments are as an amateur and hence might not be so. And I never called an MP for any update, it was a colleague. As for me personally, all updates have only been after either my spouse or I contacted them which am sure it's hard for you to belive from your comment.

Maybe what I was to say is that one should only check on them when there is an unreasonable doubt or overdue of a certain period. Its very frustrating and if you been in such situation you would understand how seeing a response or making an enquiry keeps you sane.

My file has been kinda wierd and not relatable to most applicants. But via chats I get more infos which could be soothing and relaxing to others.
 

esam99

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i think it did improve abit, but yes as u said, more employees are required at the visa offices especially in LVO