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Road.to.canada20

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Hi everyone! I have an idea but I would like your insight to see it its helpful or not.

I'm FSW Outland applicant, AOR 24th August 2020.
I lost my job in February so I'm eager to move to Canada asap (not having much luck in finding a new job in Brazil at the moment).
My medical exams will expire in the beginning of August and my security check has not started yet, so I don't see how I get my PR approved before the current medical exams expire.
Honestly don't mind paying for a new medical, I just want my process to move!
If a redo my medical exams now upfront, before IRCC asking for a new one, will that mess up my eligibility and they have to reopen it or will the just update the new medicals and maybe as soon as the border restrictions start being lifted approve my visa?

I have already been covid vaccinated and sent the proof of my vaccination to IRCC (I know there are no vaccine passports yet but im hopeful it might help my processing)

What do you guys think?

@ZAtoCD @BlindGoku and anyone else in the never ending wait, happy to hear your input.
 

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Not sure about International Travel, but US borders will open soon. The Democratic Party Majority leader: Chuck Schumer is voicing out his support and urgent need to open the borders, so are many legislators in the US. Also, if you read daily news and watch Canadian channels, gov officials indicate opening US-Canada borders soon. WRT to international travel, Canada officials indicate opening with restriction (such as vaccine passports).

I too asked @NavjotS123 to show the source on the International border not opening until next year. Still waitinggggggggggggg.
We know the answer. There's been no official statement on when international borders will reopen. Federal officials have basically said that conditions will be assessed at each stage and decisions made at that time. I can't imagine any federal official has publicly said borders will not reopen until next year.

I personally do not see Canada going the way of Australia and restricting travel until half way into next year. This would really really surprise me.

IMO (having lived here my entire life), the US border will reopen first with some rules / restrictions (e.g. PCR test results, maybe proof of vaccination) and then international borders will reopen at a later date.
 

EscoBlades

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Based on vaccinations, daily covid cases reduction, and occupation in hospitals I believe that they're likely to reopen the US border after 21st June. I hope that they don't extend that.
The border won’t open until herd immunity is reached, and that won’t happen by June 21st. I realize people like to throw out baseless speculation and analysis in this thread, but be realistic.
 

ZAtoCD

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That's good to know. I haven't seen progress on my application since October 2020. I'll be happy if there's any progress at all this year. I'm not in any rush to move to Canada so I'm happy to wait so long as there's progress on my application.
I have applied from Pakistan. Everything is open and Covid isn't so destructive here. I write this while in quarantine due to the infection lol.
Yeah, same here. No movement since last year. Oh, shame! Hope you feel better soon.
 

Anamac

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Hi guys, I've received OINP nomination and accepted it on my express entry profile but while I tried to tick yes in Nomination and Selection part of my application to update it, the section was greyed out and couldn't change it. Do you know what I should do about it? TNX
 
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Hmm! I’ve read a lot of comments on this section about the FSW-O. It’s so unfortunate that we are expressing suspension of the draws when in actual sense we should be on our way to Canada. French Language seems to be the saving grace for those who have lost good point cause of age. With good score in french exam you’re guaranteed ITA when draw resume by Q2 or 2022 as suggested by some people. While am battling with French language, my IELTS will expire soon. Although am not planning to rewrite IELTS until I see FSW-O draw resume.
 

dankboi

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Hmm! I’ve read a lot of comments on this section about the FSW-O. It’s so unfortunate that we are expressing suspension of the draws when in actual sense we should be on our way to Canada. French Language seems to be the saving grace for those who have lost good point cause of age. With good score in french exam you’re guaranteed ITA when draw resume by Q2 or 2022 as suggested by some people. While am battling with French language, my IELTS will expire soon. Although am not planning to rewrite IELTS until I see FSW-O draw resume.
What's your status ? pool / CRS?
 
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ZAtoCD

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Hmm! I’ve read a lot of comments on this section about the FSW-O. It’s so unfortunate that we are expressing suspension of the draws when in actual sense we should be on our way to Canada. French Language seems to be the saving grace for those who have lost good point cause of age. With good score in french exam you’re guaranteed ITA when draw resume by Q2 or 2022 as suggested by some people. While am battling with French language, my IELTS will expire soon. Although am not planning to rewrite IELTS until I see FSW-O draw resume.
French, a job offer, or a PNP invitation. And PNPs have various jobs listed as in demand, like with Ontario's Human Capital Priorities stream.

My friend works in tech, and got a letter from OINP without a job offer. Didn't need to write the French exam after all.
 

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The border won’t open until herd immunity is reached, and that won’t happen by June 21st. I realize people like to throw out baseless speculation and analysis in this thread, but be realistic.
Yeah, we should all be realistic by now. Don’t expect much on false hope. Just move on and expect less
 
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Guys, especially those who are applying under OINP, if you are married, include your spouse and select the IELTS exam as NA. Then, If your score is 472 it will come down to 454 which is good enough for the tech draws. This can be applied to french stream as well. Thank me later.
Has anyone tried anything similar to this and succeeded? I'm thinking my husband could redo IELTS and if he gets a lower band score our CRS score would be low enough for OINP.

How acceptable would that be? Could this change (from a better to a worse IELTS score) be somehow questioned?
 

dankboi

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Canada’s COVID-19 border rules are not to blame: Travel didn't cause third wave, Premier Doug Ford ‘deflecting again’, critics say

The federal government keeps pushing back against Ontario Premier Doug Ford's continued claim that the third wave of the COVID-19 pandemic was "fuelled almost entirely" by weak federal border measures.

"This [third] wave has been fuelled almost entirely by variants that passed too easily through our borders. Right now, we have people easily exploiting well-known loopholes that have been left in place," a tweet from the premier on Tuesday reads.

He went on to call on the federal government to require pre-departure COVID-19 testing for all domestic travellers, in addition to the pre-departure and arrival testing requirements already in place for international travellers

Premier Doug Ford's COVID-19 transmission theory shut down
"The third wave of COVID-19 is a direct result of community transmission," a statement from Dominic LeBlanc, President of the Queen’s Privy Council for Canada and Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs reads.

"Ontario Public Health data demonstrates that less than one per cent of transmission is a result of international travel. Sound public health measures such as asymptomatic testing at essential work places, provincially mandated sick days, and increased vaccination focus in hot spots are all necessary to ending this wave."

At a press conference last week, Ford said he has sent four letters to the federal government called for stricter rules for individuals coming into Ontario, including hotel quarantine for travellers through land borders.

"There’s two things Justin Trudeau's responsible for, two things only throughout this whole pandemic," Ford said on May 13. "Make sure we have enough vaccines, and we saw what happened there, now we’re getting a few more vaccines, which is good… And to make sure we secure the borders, and it’s just not happening."

"My riding is right over the airport and all I hear is those planes just constantly coming in. Every time I look up I think, how many more variants are coming in?"

In his statement LeBlanc identified that 57.7 per cent of foreign nationals coming into Canada essential workers, such as health care and supply chain workers, 22 per cent are students, 14.6 per cent are coming for family reunification purposes and 5.9 per cent for immigration.

"If Ontario would like to see further restrictions, the provincial government needs to specify which of these groups they would wish to restrict further and make a request formally," LeBlanc states.

"We always welcome the opportunity to discuss how we can work together. We have provided Ontario with extra polymerase chain reaction (PCR) testing capabilities through the Safe Restart Agreement. Ontario is also within their jurisdiction to institute domestic travel quarantine."

Federal government data states that there has been a 96 per cent reduction in air traffic and a 90 per cent reduction in non-commercial land traffic into Canada, compared to pre-COVID-19 volumes. It has also been reported that under two per cent of international travellers are found to be positive with COVID-19.

In response to Ford's tweets on Tuesday, many Twitter users weren't so convinced that travel has fuelled the third wave of the pandemic, or that the premier needs federal action.
 
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Has anyone tried anything similar to this and succeeded? I'm thinking my husband could redo IELTS and if he gets a lower band score our CRS score would be low enough for OINP.

How acceptable would that be? Could this change (from a better to a worse IELTS score) be somehow questioned?
If you want to risk messing around with your application, intentionally doing poorly on the exam, and choosing the lower score (even though the instructions explicitly tell you to choose the higher score), then go for it. Nobody knows if trying to lower your score would count as misrepresentation, but considering the intent, I wouldn't be surprised if it is.

I say the same thing for people with a measly B2 in french and picking that as their first language to get into the score range of Ontario french draws. Especially considering the EE profile creating page mentions to choose both options and pick the higher score. Yeah good luck living in fear of this ever coming up in the future and having to explain why you intentionally manipulated your score.

At the end of the day, you're trying to game the system. To be fair, the system happens to be a little broken right now, in the sense that lower scores are being rewarded and higher scores are being punished, but fact would remain that you tried to game it. Whether or not that will count as misrepresentation, I have no idea. To me, the risk is not worth having my application getting rejected, or worse, getting a PR and then this being brought up and affecting the citizenship application in the future.
 
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