Ray of hope - FSW - 1

[Deleted member 1006777]

maybe I'm wrong , when I checked both draws (pnp/all programs) , it seems oinp follows the previous All program's crs cutoff. always equal to or lower. If the quoted statement is true then if there is an all program draw this year is the CRS cutoff gonna stay above 468? or if there is a series of fsw draws the cut off might come to 469 finally from 480+?
Since the last all program's cutoff was 468

We can only guess. It depends on the future of FSW. I think the PNP cutoffs will stay between 459-468 (or whatever the exact range is) until the fate of FSW becomes more clear. If it is closed, then the upper and lower ends of the PNP cutoffs will go up.

Regarding FSW cutoffs, if they have consistent FSW draws with 5k-6k people each time, then yes, the score will eventually come to the 460s. If it looks like the score will drop even lower, the PNP cutoff will be reduced accordingly. In general, the OINP cutoffs are reactive to the all program draw cutoffs to select candidates who won't decline the PNP invite.

 

[chemistesa]

We will all have a chance if canada starts putting a country quota in the express entry system.

 

[scylla]

We will all have a chance if canada starts putting a country quota in the express entry system.

If there's a country cap, those from India will have less of a chance.

I'm not sure I see the benefit of a country cap and I think this would be viewed as "un-Canadian" and likely wouldn't happen. Just my two cents of course.

 

[mark12345680]

I think the fairest way to carry out future FSW draws is to temporarily remove the age penalty. This enables those who waited in the pool during the entirety of the covid get an equal chance of getting an invitation. For ielts validity, I don't think the IRCC can grant an extension to it. I really hope FSW draws will resume soon enough.

 

[dankboi]

I think the fairest way to carry out future FSW draws is to temporarily remove the age penalty. This enables those who waited in the pool during the entirety of the covid get an equal chance of getting an invitation. For ielts validity, I don't think the IRCC can grant an extension to it. I really hope FSW draws will resume soon enough.

Yes, especially when a category is being put on hold,

 

[dankboi]

 

[dankboi]

The 0-300 folks, are they real or bots? if them real then what them doing, any hope via PNP?

 

[SovonHalder]

Oh man, I just spent the last 2 hours reading through pages 769 to 803. Like this very post of mine, most of them are not indicative of any ray of hope. People trying to prove others wrong, criticisms and arguments between FSW and CEC, political conditions and whatnot..

I wish every time I had to open this page I didn't have to go through all these just to get to the key information pertaining to the topic of this thread's headline. All I could get after 2 hours is that in September some backlogs for existing FSW applications would start getting processed. As a result we might see invitations rolling out in the weeks following that.

 

[dankboi]

Oh man, I just spent the last 2 hours reading through pages 769 to 803. Like this very post of mine, most of them are not indicative of any ray of hope. People trying to prove others wrong, criticisms and arguments between FSW and CEC, political conditions and whatnot..

I wish every time I had to open this page I didn't have to go through all these just to get to the key information pertaining to the topic of this thread's headline. All I could get after 2 hours is that in September some backlogs for existing FSW applications would start getting processed. As a result we might see invitations rolling out in the following weeks.

Pre -ITA situations open up discussions to all levels. Once an ITA is received it'll be narrowed, so they can move on to the respective new threads. Still this is the thread where pool folks first meet and discuss. There's a lot to know about and still many topics we didn't cover yet but when I walked through the first 400 pages I found out we have a lot of topics to cover before getting an ITA : ))

 

[Frisk]

If there's a country cap, those from India will have less of a chance.

I'm not sure I see the benefit of a country cap and I think this would be viewed as "un-Canadian" and likely wouldn't happen. Just my two cents of course.

That's very much like the US's diversity lottery visa. I don't see Canada using a system like that

 

[Frisk]

Not only diversity Visa, but even the employment-based Green Cards have a country cap. That's exactly why many Indians from the US are applying to Canada. But I wouldn't ignore the idea that Canada may put a country cap given the ridiculous amount of Indians dominating the express entry.

Don't forget possibly gender based draws

 

[EscoBlades]

I think the fairest way to carry out future FSW draws is to temporarily remove the age penalty. This enables those who waited in the pool during the entirety of the covid get an equal chance of getting an invitation. For ielts validity, I don't think the IRCC can grant an extension to it. I really hope FSW draws will resume soon enough.

Canada’s immigration plan relies on reversing the ageing population the nation has in the first place, so removing the age penalty, even temporarily, makes zero sense in the short or long term. It is literally the opposite of what they would hope to achieve.

 

[EscoBlades]

Yeah the whole immigration mechanism is based upon age and ageing. Still... they invited tens of thousands of old people in 2021 didn't they? Indeed, they've been doing exactly the opposite of what they should be doing: They've been inviting old and underqualified people (CRS 75 - 430) instead of young and qualified people (CRS 450+).

I don’t subscribe to the blanket notion that a low CRS candidate is automatically “underqualified” when the PNP system literally exists. By your definition, an applicant can have a sub 400 CRS score and be “low quality” in your eyes, but by virtue of securing a provincial nomination, suddenly becomes “qualified” due to an inflated score of an additional 600 points. Which is it?

 

[EscoBlades]

Who's talking about PNP? The comprehensive ranking system is designed by the government to "rank" the candidates. Higher score indicates higher qualifications as far as that specific draw is concerned. I'm talking about the CRS 75 - 400 CEC ITAs. Go do the math, to get CRS 75 - 400 you either need to be old or underqualified, or both.

I know what you are talking about. The PNP system feeds into Express Entry via additional CRS points, thus “ranking” them higher, despite their original lower CRS score.

Besides that, IRCC stated that the big draw with the super low CRS cutoff was a one off. And it happened a while ago. I’m not really seeing why it keeps getting used as some sort of slight against people (read inland CEC candidates)

 

[swedentälje]

Ray of hope / optimist comment: I will have 482 points from August this year and will hopefully be invited by then, as soon as they resume invitations to FSW outlanders - from Sweden to Canada, green lights, my friends, green lights.