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[Buho09]

did you get any GU or BC change?.

No GU and no updates since my biometrics were completed on the 16th of february

 

[Omfarris29]

The laws and the rules for the PNP and IRCC are different. PNP applications and nominations are processed in accordance with the Immigration laws of the province you apply. Eg for Ontario it is the Ontario Immigration Act, 2015; for Saskatchewan, it is the Foreign Worker Recruitment and Immigration Services Act (FWRISA), 2013 etc.

Just because you received the PNP nomination does not mean that these documents will be good for IRCC too. All documents submitted to IRCC have to comply with the IRCC requirements and the processed under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act. IRCC will do its own due diligence and review the documents even if you have received the nomination. So who ever informed you that it is just a formality, is incorrect.

If you met the requirements of IRCC, then you need not worry.


I had an old post on RR, re-posting it here.



Understanding “Review Required”

A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied (FSW / CEC / FTW). To stream line this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize it in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, there will be a review required for the eligibility, and there will be no text to the effect “ready to finalize” or pass. The note will specifically state job duties do not match, or the employment cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst / assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst / assistant.

Even in cases where the analyst / assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, but it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because, the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are know as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your PoF anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day to day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit the panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.

There are just some of the scenarios.

Hi @legalfalcon, thank you for these very informative information. My spouse applied for a CEC inland last March 21, 2021 with me and my kids as dependents (all inland). I have a question regarding the primary NOC as I did our application by my own without representative. Is the primary NOC, the work that he currently has here in Canada? He is working as a Community Support Worker (NOC B 4212) since April 2019. So he has 2 years of full-time permanent position with the same employer until now. He was a physician back home. So, is the primary NOC should be his work here or his work as a physician back home? I am very worried coz I put his primary NOC as his current job here given that we are applying for Canadian Experience Class. Please enlighten me on this one please? Thank you very much!

 

[legalfalcon]

Hi @legalfalcon, thank you for these very informative information. My spouse applied for a CEC inland last March 21, 2021 with me and my kids as dependents (all inland). I have a question regarding the primary NOC as I did our application by my own without representative. Is the primary NOC, the work that he currently has here in Canada? He is working as a Community Support Worker (NOC B 4212) since April 2019. So he has 2 years of full-time permanent position with the same employer until now. He was a physician back home. So, is the primary NOC should be his work here or his work as a physician back home? I am very worried coz I put his primary NOC as his current job here given that we are applying for Canadian Experience Class. Please enlighten me on this one please? Thank you very much!

For CEC:

• have at least 1 year of skilled work experience in Canada, in the last 3 years before you apply—you can meet this in a few different ways:
  • full-time at 1 job: 30 hours/week for 12 months = 1 year full-time (1,560 hours)
  • equal amount in part-time work: for example 15 hours/week for 24 months = 1 year full time (1,560 hours)
    • You can work as many part-time jobs as you need to meet this requirement.
  • full-time work at more than 1 job: 30 hours/week for 12 months at more than 1 job = 1 year full time (1,560 hours)
• have gained your work experience by working in Canada while under temporary resident status with authorization to work

According to the Canadian National Occupational Classification (NOC), skilled work experience means:

• managerial jobs (skill level 0)
• professional jobs (skill type A)
• technical jobs and skilled trades (skill type B)

Your work experience can be in 1 or more NOC 0, A or B jobs.

You must show that you performed the duties set out in the lead statement of the occupational description in the NOC. This includes all the essential duties and most of the main duties listed.

You have to meet the above.

 

[Omfarris29]

For CEC:

• have at least 1 year of skilled work experience in Canada, in the last 3 years before you apply—you can meet this in a few different ways:
  • full-time at 1 job: 30 hours/week for 12 months = 1 year full-time (1,560 hours)
  • equal amount in part-time work: for example 15 hours/week for 24 months = 1 year full time (1,560 hours)
    • You can work as many part-time jobs as you need to meet this requirement.
  • full-time work at more than 1 job: 30 hours/week for 12 months at more than 1 job = 1 year full time (1,560 hours)
• have gained your work experience by working in Canada while under temporary resident status with authorization to work

According to the Canadian National Occupational Classification (NOC), skilled work experience means:

• managerial jobs (skill level 0)
• professional jobs (skill type A)
• technical jobs and skilled trades (skill type B)

Your work experience can be in 1 or more NOC 0, A or B jobs.

You must show that you performed the duties set out in the lead statement of the occupational description in the NOC. This includes all the essential duties and most of the main duties listed.

You have to meet the above.

Okay thank you very much! So in short, primary NOC means his current work here in Canada under skilled job (he’s NOC B) and not his profession and work experience as a doctor back home. Yes, he has all the documentations for his work here. Hopefully we will pass the eligibility . Like for how many months do you think it will last? When I called IRCC, they said that they are reviewing our eligibility. We passed the medical last March 31 then submitted the biometrics. Thank you once again @legalfalcon

 

[ssk1234]

Hey Guys,

Can anyone please tell me how and from where to apply for the gcms notes ?

 

[tshtsh]

Hey Guys,

Can anyone please tell me how and from where to apply for the gcms notes ?

I used this https://www.justforcanada.com/order-gcms-notes.html though I'm still waiting as it takes 30 days to process

 

[Serb11]

No GU and no updates since my biometrics were completed on the 16th of february

do you plan on calling them again anytime soon? i want to call them but im afraid of any negative effect on my application

 

[Buho09]

do you plan on calling them again anytime soon? i want to call them but im afraid of any negative effect on my application

I am planning to order GCMS notes once I reach alt least the 3rd or 4th months of my 6months timeline.

 

[legalfalcon]

Hey Guys,

Can anyone please tell me how and from where to apply for the gcms notes ?

See https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/all-about-gcms-how-to-order-read-general-questions-answered.482200/

 

[legalfalcon]

Okay thank you very much! So in short, primary NOC means his current work here in Canada under skilled job (he’s NOC B) and not his profession and work experience as a doctor back home. Yes, he has all the documentations for his work here. Hopefully we will pass the eligibility . Like for how many months do you think it will last? When I called IRCC, they said that they are reviewing our eligibility. We passed the medical last March 31 then submitted the biometrics. Thank you once again @legalfalcon

There is no published time frame from how long eligibility lasts, the current processing time frame for CEC is 10 months.

 

[Serb11]

I am planning to order GCMS notes once I reach alt least the 3rd or 4th months of my 6months timeline.

best of luck

 

[Buho09]

best of luck

what about you ? what is your AOR ? any updates so far ?

 

[Serb11]

what about you ? what is your AOR ? any updates so far ?

AOR 6 Jan. MEP and BIL completed. one GU since and then silence

 

[Buho09]

AOR 6 Jan. MEP and BIL completed. one GU since and then silence

alright buddy. good luck.
let's keep each other posted

 

[caipsnotes]

Hey Guys,

Can anyone please tell me how and from where to apply for the gcms notes ?

If eligible you can request for free as well, see https://help.gcmsnotes.com/how-to-order/for-free