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IMM 5532- If you are not living together, have you visited each other during your relationship? Give detials

Peekay0000

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Mar 23, 2021
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Hello, I apologize for the lengthy question but want to make sure I put all the facts.
  • I have applied for spousal sponsorship for my spouse. I am the sponsor and PR.
  • I live in Canada.
  • I commute to work to US daily and come back to Canada in eve.
  • My spouse lives near my work place in USA (Michigan).
  • After work, I meet her and then come back to Canada.
For the question mentioned in the topic in form IMM 5532, I wrote
From- Date I moved to Canada
To- TBD
Who traveled to visit whom? I travel to US to visit my spouse
Do you stay together? - Yes
Address- Spouse address in US

I meet my wife almost everyday because she lives so close to my work place and plan to do so in future and I am commuting since the day I moved to Canada. Hence the From and To dates.
As a third person, does the above answer make sense. Need some inputs from your perspective. Thanks in advance. Also explained this situation in LOE.
 

armoured

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I meet my wife almost everyday because she lives so close to my work place and plan to do so in future and I am commuting since the day I moved to Canada. Hence the From and To dates.
As a third person, does the above answer make sense. Need some inputs from your perspective. Thanks in advance. Also explained this situation in LOE.
Because the situation is a bit odd (border couple), I'd add a short explanation more or less as you wrote above. Do you meet at her residence or various places?

About the only part that's unclear is whether you've actually lived together or in these visits, did you know each other beforehand, do you sometimes stay more than a workday (i.e. overnight or weekend), does she visit you in Canada, when the marriage occurred (have you ever lived in the same city?), etc. You don't need to lay out all details here, jsut saying that presumably this will all make sense in your app and history.

But as far as the commuter aspect that you see each other most days, just explain it simply. (While I doubt they will ever get around to asking specifics, you may want to keep a record for some period of time - where you met and when - just in case)
 

Peekay0000

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Mar 23, 2021
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Because the situation is a bit odd (border couple), I'd add a short explanation more or less as you wrote above. Do you meet at her residence or various places? Residence only.

About the only part that's unclear is whether you've actually lived together or in these visits- we have been married and lived together in US for more than 2 yrs before I moved to Canada, did you know each other beforehand,- Yes do you sometimes stay more than a workday (i.e. overnight or weekend),Yes and also expalined in LOE does she visit you in Canada-she has visitor visa but hasnt visisted Canada, when the marriage occurred (have you ever lived in the same city?), we ahave been married and lived for 2+ yrs before I moved to Canadaetc. You don't need to lay out all details here, jsut saying that presumably this will all make sense in your app and history.

But as far as the commuter aspect that you see each other most days, just explain it simply. (While I doubt they will ever get around to asking specifics, you may want to keep a record for some period of time - yes ample pf photos almost daily selfies at home, near car etc where you met and when - just in case)
Thank You so much for your reply. I appreciate your effort in reading my full lengthy question. I have replied to your inputs in red above. My only concern is how does a third person view these answers? Does it raise any questions? I have explained the full situation in LOE and also stated that I stay over the weekend sometimes. I have provided enough documentation lease, insurance, bank account etc for genuineness of marriage. Been married and lived together in US for more than 2 yrs before I moved to Canada. Its just this question keeps bugging me whether I should have written only the weekends I stayed in US or what I wrote makes sense. Could you add some more inputs if I should resubmit the form by just putting the weekends I stayed there? TIA.
 

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Thank You so much for your reply. I appreciate your effort in reading my full lengthy question. I have replied to your inputs in red above. My only concern is how does a third person view these answers? Does it raise any questions? I have explained the full situation in LOE and also stated that I stay over the weekend sometimes. I have provided enough documentation lease, insurance, bank account etc for genuineness of marriage. Been married and lived together in US for more than 2 yrs before I moved to Canada. Its just this question keeps bugging me whether I should have written only the weekends I stayed in US or what I wrote makes sense. Could you add some more inputs if I should resubmit the form by just putting the weekends I stayed there? TIA.
Since you were married and lived together before you moved to Canada, no particular issue I can see. Just explain the border visit situation.

Key question: I assume when you applied for PR you declared her as your spouse? Or was the timing different?

But overall as far as genuineness of the relationship, don't see any particular issue. You're not the first border couple.
 

Peekay0000

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Mar 23, 2021
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Thanks. Yes I declared her as my spouse since we have been married 2+ yrs before the sponsorship. Attached marriage certificate and pics as well. I keep on thinking if I should have replied that question differently since I meet her daily but do not stay everynight. I just stay one night if I am too tired to drive back to Canada or aome weekend.
 

armoured

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Thanks. Yes I declared her as my spouse since we have been married 2+ yrs before the sponsorship. Attached marriage certificate and pics as well. I keep on thinking if I should have replied that question differently since I meet her daily but do not stay everynight. I just stay one night if I am too tired to drive back to Canada or aome weekend.
I wouldn't worry about it. You declared her as spouse when you became PR, you've been married for a while, there are lots of long distance relationships that are considerably more challenging than yours.
 

armoured

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Thanks. Yes I declared her as my spouse since we have been married 2+ yrs before the sponsorship. Attached marriage certificate and pics as well. I keep on thinking if I should have replied that question differently since I meet her daily but do not stay everynight. I just stay one night if I am too tired to drive back to Canada or aome weekend.
Sorry, I may be misreading this or particularly thick right now: when you applied to become a PR, you declared her as your spouse on that application? (Not the spousal sponsorship one, obviously you have to declare as spouse on that application)

When did you become a PR? Was it before you were married?
 

Peekay0000

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Mar 23, 2021
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Sorry, I may be misreading this or particularly thick right now: when you applied to become a PR, you declared her as your spouse on that application? (Not the spousal sponsorship one, obviously you have to declare as spouse on that application)

When did you become a PR? Was it before you were married?
Ohh my bad. We were not married or knew each other when I applied for my(sponsor) PR. Is that a problem?
 

armoured

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Ohh my bad. We were not married or knew each other when I applied for my(sponsor) PR. Is that a problem?
No, not bad. Just that I didn't understand timeline (and still don't). Sounds like you became a PR (landed) and then returned to USA and/or commuted and married in that interim time period?

It would have been VERY bad if you were married or common law when you applied OR first landed in Canada and did not inform. As that doesnt' seem to be the case, shouldn't be an issue.
 

Peekay0000

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No, not bad. Just that I didn't understand timeline (and still don't). Sounds like you became a PR (landed) and then returned to USA and/or commuted and married in that interim time period?

It would have been VERY bad if you were married or common law when you applied OR first landed in Canada and did not inform. As that doesnt' seem to be the case, shouldn't be an issue.
Nope, I was not married when I first landed. I did soft landing first, went back to US got married in interim time and then moved to Canada permanently after 2 years and started commuting while my wife is staying in US. Like I said, I meet her after work at her(our) michigan apartment and then come back to Canada. Some weekends I stay in US. So for the FROM date, I put the date when I permanently moved to Canada and the TO date I put TBD since I meet her almost daily. For the address I put her(our) apartment and for were you staying together I put YES because we meet at her(our) michigan apartment and I stay there for about 2 hours. Like I said, in hindsight, I feel I should have just written the weekend nights that I stayed at her(our) apartment rather than saying TBD. So sorry for the big replies.
 
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