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dactoan.nguyen

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If you did not add prove that you reside in Canada, they will contact you by email asking for the documents, (It happened with me). About the 5 dollar thing, it happened with my friend. When he ordered the privacy act, he found that some lines are missing from the GCMS notes. However, when he order then next time using the Access to information act and paid the 5 $, more information was mentioned regarding the security. Now it could be just a coincidence as there was about a month between the two GCMS notes, so they might just add more notes during that time ( I don't really know).
Thanks Haitham, I just sent email to them with my driver license in advance.
 
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legalfalcon

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COPR!! FINALLY GOT THE MUCH AWAITED EMAIL! :)

AOR: June 28, 2020
BC PNP Inland
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Special thanks to @legalfalcon for clearing doubts and answering questions so patiently! Good luck everyone!
Congratulations!! all the best for the journey ahead!!
 
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amex

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@legalfalcon please provide information regarding my PR application status under CEC .
AOR -June, my eligibility and criminality was passed an officer as per Gcm notes (generated on 28th of November 2020) but security hasn’t stated yet. I called in today and same response. It’s been 2 months since no update on my file.
why they r taking so much time to start security. More then 7 months of waiting for decisions. VO-Ottawa
Thank you in advance
I am AOR June 24 and according to the officer when I called in Jan, my security started December 23, one month after my eligibility passed conclusively. Even he said that "Somehow your file was not touched for a month and security started one month later after everything was passed."
So don't worry it could happen to anyone as it happened to me as well. The worst part is that you need to be patient for at least another month after it started but eventually, it will come to end. Also, there were people who said that their security took only a few days to complete or maybe that is what the system shows.
 
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Ro66

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I am AOR June 24 and according to the officer when I called in Jan, my security started December 23, one month after my eligibility passed conclusively. Even he said that "Somehow your file was not touched for a month and security started one month later after everything was passed."
So don't worry it could happen to anyone as it happened to me as well. The worst part is that you need to be patient for at least another month after it started but eventually, it will come to end. Also, there were people who said that their security took only a few days to complete or maybe that is what the system shows.
Wait all can do. But it’s unfair. How files left and not being followed
 
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legalfalcon

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Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hey Navjot,
A question that is your eligibility conclusively passed? Because I saw your security is not-started.
@legalfalcon is there any chances that the security will remain not-started even the eligibility is conclusively passed? Any inputs are appreciated.

Yes, in some cases it can happen, and this is because IRCC has not initiated the security. Many files due to COVID are in this phase. Earlier immediately when the eligibility was passed, the security used to be initiated, but not any mre.

To read on security, how much time it takes, and the difference between inland and outland applications see https://bit.ly/3qtWu1B
 

legalfalcon

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4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon please provide information regarding my PR application status under CEC .
AOR -June, my eligibility and criminality was passed an officer as per Gcm notes (generated on 28th of November 2020) but security hasn’t stated yet. I called in today and same response. It’s been 2 months since no update on my file.
why they r taking so much time to start security. More then 7 months of waiting for decisions. VO-Ottawa
Thank you in advance
If your AoR is June you are well within the average processing time of 8-9 months. Also, the security starts after the eligibility is conclusively passed. How to find if your eligibility is conclusively passed, see #4,004

The average processing time for security is 110 days. To read more on security see https://bit.ly/3qtWu1B

How long did it take to process an Express Entry application?
Table 35 displays the time, in months, that IRCC took to process 80% of applications under each program. In 2019, IRCC did not meet the processing standard of finalizing 80% of all applications sourced via Express Entry within six months. The processing time for Express Entry, overall, was eight months. As an alternative measure of processing times, 60% of applications finalized in the 12-month period ending on December 31, 2019, were completed within the six-month service standard.

Table 35: Processing Times for Express Entry applications finalized by year and immigration category, in months
Program201720182019
Canadian Experience Class457
Federal Skilled Worker469
Provincial/Territorial Nominee669
Federal Skilled Trades6712
All Programs558
Source: CIC_EDW (MBR) as of January 3, 2020
Data is operational and as such should be considered preliminary and subject to change.

  • Processing times refer to the time in which 80% of applications were finalized by IRCC. The processing time is measured from the day a complete application is received until the time a final decision is made by an immigration officer.
 
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If you did not add prove that you reside in Canada, they will contact you by email asking for the documents, (It happened with me). About the 5 dollar thing, it happened with my friend. When he ordered the privacy act, he found that some lines are missing from the GCMS notes. However, when he order then next time using the Access to information act and paid the 5 $, more information was mentioned regarding the security. Now it could be just a coincidence as there was about a month between the two GCMS notes, so they might just add more notes during that time ( I don't really know).
Missing information in Gcms Notes is quite normal and quite common, its called redaction and one can read more about it here https://bit.ly/2LeDe9l

With the passage of time more information was added to GCMS and hence one received relatively more information in the example you mentioned
 

legalfalcon

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Sep 21, 2015
19,048
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Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Dear @legalfalcon, Can you please share with us any information or statistics regarding 2020 immigration. Specifically, how many PR's issued in this year(2020)?
IRCC recently published the data and I crunched it:



 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Did you ask for the privacy act or the other one?. Normally the free one has less information than the other. The one where you pay 5 dollars will have more information in it.
Hey Haitham, what is the "where you pay 5 dollars will have more information in it." Could you share? Thanks
@legalfalcon I ordered my GCMS note without adding any documents to prove my resident in Canada, will it valid order or do I have to order again and add some documents to prove my resident? Appreciate with any input.

It does not matter whether you request your GCMS notes under Privacy Act or under Access to Information, the information released is the same.

Privacy Act

Right of access

  • 12 (1) Subject to this Act, every individual who is a Canadian citizen or a permanent resident within the meaning of subsection 2(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Acthas a right to and shall, on request, be given access to
    • (a) any personal information about the individual contained in a personal information bank; and
    • (b) any other personal information about the individual under the control of a government institution with respect to which the individual is able to provide sufficiently specific information on the location of the information as to render it reasonably retrievable by the government institution.

Access to information Act
Right to access to records

  • 4(1) Subject to this Part, but notwithstanding any other Act of Parliament, every person who is
  • has a right to and shall, on request, be given access to any record under the control of a government institution.

  • The main difference is that under the Privacy Act, you can only request your own personal information.
  • Under the ATI act you can request information of other individuals or any information about any agency in Canada. It is not limited to personal info.
  • To request under either of the laws, you have to be a PR or a citizen or a person present in Canada.

Also, when requesting information under Privacy act there is no fee.

Irrespective of whether you request info under ATI or Privacy, you will get the same record.

Also, keep in mind that when your request under Privacy Act or ATI, all individuals in the application have to sign the consent form to release their respective information. If the consent form is not filed, then the person who filed the request, only their information will be released and for the other individuals it will be redacted.

Information about another individual

26 The head of a government institution may refuse to disclose any personal information requested under subsection 12(1) about an individual other than the individual who made the request, and shall refuse to disclose such information where the disclosure is prohibited under section 8.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hey Haitham, what is the "where you pay 5 dollars will have more information in it." Could you share? Thanks
@legalfalcon I ordered my GCMS note without adding any documents to prove my resident in Canada, will it valid order or do I have to order again and add some documents to prove my resident? Appreciate with any input.

If you did not include your proof for the right to access, IRCC will contact you and ask for the documents.
 
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Diamond42

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@legalfalcon I just realized I may have made a mistake when applying for my gcms note. I am in Canada and I applied for myself. AOR-June 17th, applied for the notes on December 23rd, 2020. Will they ask for the document to prove I am in Canada when its a month (ie jAN 23RD 2020)?

TIA!
 

shashi_b

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If you did not add prove that you reside in Canada, they will contact you by email asking for the documents, (It happened with me). About the 5 dollar thing, it happened with my friend. When he ordered the privacy act, he found that some lines are missing from the GCMS notes. However, when he order then next time using the Access to information act and paid the 5 $, more information was mentioned regarding the security. Now it could be just a coincidence as there was about a month between the two GCMS notes, so they might just add more notes during that time ( I don't really know).
I think, it depends. I received mine in 30 days without giving any proof of my identity or status in Canada.