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aspirant256

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Could you guys throw some light on how to address these? help me understand please

Submissions reviewed. pa has completed university degree and has been following a career in home country for several years. Now wishes to study for a master's degree at university. According to application, pa is now unemployed in Pakistan and following on-line courses. Motivation for proposed studies is not convincing even upon review of submissions and letter of support. Career prospects in home country are unclear, notwithstanding pa' submission. am not satisfied that pa's present ties to home country are sufficient to compel pa to leave canada at end of authorized stay and that motivation to study is genuine. am not satisfied that pa's career prospects in home country justify pa's stated motivation. am no satisfied that motivation to study is genuine. Refused
 

jweekend

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Could you guys throw some light on how to address these? help me understand please
You are trying to use a study permit to immigrate to Canada and not leave Canada after your studies. It is in violation of immigration regulations and therefore a study permit cannot be issued to you.
 

Tresh

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Could you guys throw some light on how to address these? help me understand please
First, State your Bachelor's and degree you sort for in Canada for us to understand more. then how long you have been unemployed? and is your experience in the field of your BSc or the master's you want to pursue.

Now, he said PA has been unemployed. If your BSc or Btech or Beng or Ba is related to your experience and also related to the MSc you want to pursue, then as unemployed PA, it shows a lack of job prospects in your home country and would make you not to return back to your country after studies. you can counter this in LOE with a proper explanation to be able to convince VO that actually, the course will be a boost when you return home. as he said your career prospect in your country is unclear. experts can tell you more.

Again, he clearly stated that your motivation to study the course in Canada doesn't hold water, so therefore he is not convinced you're a bonafide student. again, you need to really sit back and draft a well-articulated motivation behind your choosing Canada which is expensive than doing it in your home country, and mind you you're not working so how do you want to spend that much for that course in Canada, when your country will be far cheaper?

Then again, Home ties. what's your age, are you married, what documents(land, houses, etc you have in your name ( car(s) not included)). if you're not married, parents cant be seen as strong ties, but if you're, at least your wife and kids if any serve better as home ties and reason to return back to them. Then if you have a business you're running, it can serve as well( experts can tell more on that). Then again, a job offer awaiting you after completion can serve as a reason to return back home or actually the reason while you're going for the course in Canada.

These are just my opinions, let the experts throw more light. all the best @aspirant256
 
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aspirant256

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First, State your Bachelor's and degree you sort for in Canada for us to understand more. then how long you have been unemployed? and is your experience in the field of your BSc or the master's you want to pursue. bachelor's in engineering and want to pursue master's degree in Canada at a university. I have most of my experience overseas and VO has wrongly mentioned that I am pursuing career in home country. Over 10 years of experience. I have technical as well as some management experience but this degree is much needed to grow in my career. Have been unemployed due to covid for over 6 months but financially stable.

Now, he said PA has been unemployed. If your BSc or Btech or Beng or Ba is related to your experience and also related to the MSc you want to pursue, then as unemployed PA, it shows a lack of job prospects in your home country and would make you not to return back to your country after studies. you can counter this in LOE with a proper explanation to be able to convince VO that actually, the course will be a boost when you return home. as he said your career prospect in your country is unclear. experts can tell you more.

Again, he clearly stated that your motivation to study the course in Canada doesn't hold water, so therefore he is not convinced you're a bonafide student. again, you need to really sit back and draft a well-articulated motivation behind your choosing Canada which is expensive than doing it in your home country, and mind you you're not working so how do you want to spend that much for that course in Canada, when your country will be far cheaper? getting master's from Canada or abroad is valued more in Pakistan, also canada gives enough routes to stay legally in Canada like 3 years of work permit after master's and I will get enough points to PR. Can I express this in LOE? or we shouldn't talk about PR at all?

Then again, Home ties. what's your age, are you married, what documents(land, houses, etc you have in your name ( car(s) not included)). if you're not married, parents cant be seen as strong ties, but if you're, at least your wife and kids if any serve better as home ties and reason to return back to them. Then if you have a business you're running, it can serve as well( experts can tell more on that). Then again, a job offer awaiting you after completion can serve as a reason to return back home or actually the reason while you're going for the course in Canada. I have none of those ties in my home country. I have extensive international travel to US and UK as well and have never overstayed my intended stay, isn't this enough proof that I would never stay in Canada illegally? I always abide by the laws of home country and any country I goto which is proven by all immigration records.

These are just my opinions, let the experts throw more light. all the best @aspirant256
Thanks for a detailed response, appreciate it. See my comments in RED, please.
 

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For you to be issued a study permit, the immigration officer has to be satisfied that once your permit ends, you will go back to your home country. Otherwise you cannot be issued a study permit because your primary intention is not to go back, it's to remain in Canada. That's an automatic refusal. If you mention PR as a goal for your application, it will only further confirm their doubts that you are not studying in Canada primarily for your qualification but as a means of remaining permanently there.

Have you looked at immigrating through express entry?
 
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Tresh

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Thanks for a detailed response, appreciate it. See my comments in RED, please.
Hmmm, Having looked at all that,

Mention the master degree you sort for so that we can correlate it to your experience and past studies

Do you really have work experience in Pakistan? which country are u residing in now ( that you're unemployed) and the country where you were working before been unemployed?

Summarily, of it all is that you're not established in your home country, making it easy for VO to think you won't return after studies. here, you mentioned you're not working but financially ok, but you don't have any property at home, which means you never invested at home. this showing that you don't like your country? that's just my opinion.

Please never mention anything about PR in your study permit. Yes, they know students' sole reason mostly is for PR, but they need you to prove that after your studies, you must return back to your country.
 

Tresh

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again from your number of years of experience, you must be 30 or above, so don't you have your own immediate family? if you do, where are they?
 

aspirant256

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For you to be issued a study permit, the immigration officer has to be satisfied that once your permit ends, you will go back to your home country. Otherwise you cannot be issued a study permit because your primary intention is not to go back, it's to remain in Canada. That's an automatic refusal. If you mention PR as a goal for your application, it will only further confirm their doubts that you are not studying in Canada primarily for your qualification but as a means of remaining permanently there.

Have you looked at immigrating through express entry?
Yes, not enough points since I don't have a masters degree
 

aspirant256

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Hmmm, Having looked at all that,

Mention the master degree you sort for so that we can correlate it to your experience and past studies

Do you really have work experience in Pakistan? which country are u residing in now ( that you're unemployed) and the country where you were working before been unemployed?

Summarily, of it all is that you're not established in your home country, making it easy for VO to think you won't return after studies. here, you mentioned you're not working but financially ok, but you don't have any property at home, which means you never invested at home. this showing that you don't like your country? that's just my opinion.

Please never mention anything about PR in your study permit. Yes, they know students' sole reason mostly is for PR, but they need you to prove that after your studies, you must return back to your country.
There is no problem with the program of study, its totally in-line with the progression in my career and I think VO raised no concerns over that as well. I am in Pakistan now and since I never stayed in Pakistan for a long time so I never invested here. Most of my family is in Canada, so strong ties in Canada. I am single so no wife and kids.

Suggest me how do I show ties to home country? that's the only weak point in my application. I recently saw a post from a guy in a group where he mentioned that he didn't show any property documents in his application and got approved anyway. I need to come around of this real estate in the name thing.
 

Tresh

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There is no problem with the program of study, its totally in-line with the progression in my career and I think VO raised no concerns over that as well. I am in Pakistan now and since I never stayed in Pakistan for a long time so I never invested here. Most of my family is in Canada, so strong ties in Canada. I am single so no wife and kids.

Suggest me how do I show ties to home country? that's the only weak point in my application. I recently saw a post from a guy in a group where he mentioned that he didn't show any property documents in his application and got approved anyway. I need to come around of this real estate in the name thing.

Yes, someone may not show any proof at all and get his permit but it doesn't mean the same applies to all. again where one is applying from determines how severe his or her application will be scrutinized. I showed marriage cert., House documents (completed and uncompleted), land, Shares in companies, Pension account, business, insurances, offer letter from the institution I am to work upon return. So, let that be a guide.