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Jan 2, 2021
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Dears;
I'm network security engineer from Egypt, 32 years old, single.
I'm working currently in Iraq and I have total work experience of 5 years.
I got WES evaluation with Candatian Equivalency Summary = Bachelor's degree (four years)
I applied to George Brown college for Sep 2019 and I had CLB 7.0 back then, I got accepted by the college and got my biometrics, but my Study Permit visa was rejected due to the following reasons:
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on the limited employment prospects in your country of residence.

My target is to settle down and have a job in Canada.
I tried Saskatchewan but it didn't work.
Also my score doesn't qualify me to even apply for Express Entry, rather than having high score to actually get accepted.
I don't have any friends or relatives who immigrated to Canada and I didn't use immigration agent. I only depended on myself for the above and I failed.

I got disappointed actually and I need your kind advise and help to guide me on what I should do and if I have any hope to immigrate to Canada.
 

Naturgrl

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- You have a bachelors and I assume an engineering degree. So what program at George Brown did you apply to. How does it help your career progression in your home country. Your aim is to live in Canada but you need to show why you need to spend a lot of money on a Canadian education for your career in Egypt. (Limited prospects)
- You are not living in your home country. You need to show strong ties to Egypt through work and personal things (properties etc.). (Ties to your country of residence)
 

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• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on the limited employment prospects in your country of residence.
VO believes that you being a network engineer on the same designation for 5 years isn't a satisfying motivating reason for you to study in Canada and thinks that you might overstay.
 
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- You have a bachelors and I assume an engineering degree. So what program at George Brown did you apply to. How does it help your career progression in your home country. Your aim is to live in Canada but you need to show why you need to spend a lot of money on a Canadian education for your career in Egypt. (Limited prospects)
- You are not living in your home country. You need to show strong ties to Egypt through work and personal things (properties etc.). (Ties to your country of residence)
I applied for "Cyber Security (Postgraduate)" program at George Brown which is totally related to my career.
Unfortunately, I don't have any assets in Egypt or any country. I'm also single, so I can't prove strong ties to my family in Egypt, except for my mother and my brother.
I'm not sure what should I do, so please advise.
 
Jan 2, 2021
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Family ties in Canada and in your country of residence does not necessarily mean that that the VO believes you have family in Canada. It means that the VO is not satisfied on balance referring to your home country. You need to provide more details regarding socio-economic ties of your family back in home to overcome this.



VO believes that you being a network engineer on the same designation for 5 years isn't a satisfying motivating reason for you to study in Canada and thinks that you might overstay.
I don't have any friends or relatives in Canada. I'm single. I don't have strong family ties in Egypt except for my mother and brother.
Shouldn't field of study be related to my work experience? I applied to for "Cyber Security (Postgraduate)" program at George Brown which is related to my job as a network security engineer.
 

Ironclad

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I don't have any friends or relatives in Canada. I'm single. I don't have strong family ties in Egypt except for my mother and brother.
Shouldn't field of study be related to my work experience? I applied to for "Cyber Security (Postgraduate)" program at George Brown which is related to my job as a network security engineer.
A detailed study plan in the LOE will help to overcome this, the VO has trouble understanding the prospect relations.
 
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Naturgrl

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I applied for "Cyber Security (Postgraduate)" program at George Brown which is totally related to my career.
Unfortunately, I don't have any assets in Egypt or any country. I'm also single, so I can't prove strong ties to my family in Egypt, except for my mother and my brother.
I'm not sure what should I do, so please advise.
Why do you need to take a cyber security course in Canada? Your ties to your home country are weak so you need to justify why spending thousands on a Canada education will lead to your career advancement in your home country or country of residence. Look at masters programs.
 
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Maybe tommorow

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Try for a masters degree. Also, your country of residence will play against you in future applications.

I'm sorry you got rejected Ahmad, hopefully you'll get it on a later attempt. Plenty have before
 
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Why do you need to take a cyber security course in Canada? Your ties to your home country are weak so you need to justify why spending thousands on a Canada education will lead to your career advancement in your home country or country of residence. Look at masters programs.
Dears;
So if the only difference for my second attempt is the program itself to be master instead of postgraduate certificate, I can get accepted? or are there any other requirements I should fit? because the issue is that I can't provide any proofs for assets or family ties in Egypt.
 

Maybe tommorow

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Dears;
So if the only difference for my second attempt is the program itself to be master instead of postgraduate certificate, I can get accepted? or are there any other requirements I should fit? because the issue is that I can't provide any proofs for assets or family ties in Egypt.
We can't give a confirmed answer as most of us are just students. Postgraduate certificates get rejected plenty, also your country of residence will play negatively. But yes a master degree will make your application look so much better
 
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Islander216

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Profiles like yours are always a red flag for study permits:

From country A, living and working in country B, and applying for a program of study in Canada less than a Master's degree at postgraduate level.

The good news is you only have two reasons for refusal, which is family ties and job prospects in your country of origin.

So a good LOE and a letter from your employer stating you have a job waiting for you when you complete your studies would help.
 
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Ironclad

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Dears;
So if the only difference for my second attempt is the program itself to be master instead of postgraduate certificate, I can get accepted? or are there any other requirements I should fit? because the issue is that I can't provide any proofs for assets or family ties in Egypt.
No where the refusal states regarding the course. Only ties and prospects.
 
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Just adding to what everyone else has already said, In your SOP, don't forget to mention some of the positions you can apply in Egypt(you can provide links to the said job positions, etc) especially highlight areas where it says they require someone with theoretical knowledge in the said course.
Do not mention you will go back to your temporary country of residence as that creates a red flag for VO. Unfortunately for VO home ties usually means financial ties or spouse or kids. Parents are not necessarily considered as strong ties by them (have come across students who had shown going back to parents had their VISA rejected).
 
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sam.devilz19

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Dears;
I'm network security engineer from Egypt, 32 years old, single.
I'm working currently in Iraq and I have total work experience of 5 years.
I got WES evaluation with Candatian Equivalency Summary = Bachelor's degree (four years)
I applied to George Brown college for Sep 2019 and I had CLB 7.0 back then, I got accepted by the college and got my biometrics, but my Study Permit visa was rejected due to the following reasons:
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on the limited employment prospects in your country of residence.

My target is to settle down and have a job in Canada.
I tried Saskatchewan but it didn't work.
Also my score doesn't qualify me to even apply for Express Entry, rather than having high score to actually get accepted.
I don't have any friends or relatives who immigrated to Canada and I didn't use immigration agent. I only depended on myself for the above and I failed.

I got disappointed actually and I need your kind advise and help to guide me on what I should do and if I have any hope to immigrate to Canada.
I'm sorry to hear that you received a refusal on your attempt but the next step you should probably do is to order GCMS notes and understand detailed specifics as to why your application was denied, provided you have the flexibility to wait for a little longer.

You need to consider whether the current level in your career (work experience and qualifications) goes well with the post-graduate diploma course you have applied for. A 4-year bachelor's degree and work experience in cyber security might have already equipped you with all the skills and expertise your proposed cyber security diploma will provide you with. Unless this is going to be a very specialized course enabling you to acquire expertise at higher level than you currently have? If yes, how well are you able to articulate and defend this in your letter of explanation?

A rule of thumb is to go for a course that enables you to attain higher-level skills than something you already have, and if you could somehow find one, you should be prepared to explain how and why the proposed studies allow you to acquire higher-level skills in your SOP in a rational manner.

Besides you will find plethora of information on this forum as to how you may justify your home-ties depending on your social and economic circumstances in your country of residence and/or home country.

Good luck!