PGP 2020

[steaky]

Foreign adoption by zCanadian families and immigration of adults/families are not the same things.

zCanadian families?

 

[robertp]

For PGP-2020

• Government of Canada announces details for opening of 2020 Parents and Grandparents Program
• Lottery system to allow immigrants to sponsor parents, grandparents opens Oct. 13

 

[Dharmeshvirani235]

Hi, Can I submit application for my parents and my wife be the co-signer and She apply for her parents and I be the co-signer at the same time ?

 

[screech339]

For PGP-2020

• Government of Canada announces details for opening of 2020 Parents and Grandparents Program
• Lottery system to allow immigrants to sponsor parents, grandparents opens Oct. 13

I am glad that the Trudeau government finally realized that the lottery system was the best approach. Their attempt to go back to first come first serve approach last year was a total disaster. The cap was reached and website closed within minutes of opening. Who would have thought that wasn't going to happen. While there is no perfect system, lottery is the best approach. It is no different when there are more demand than there are spots available. No different from French immersions programs for example. People are going to hate whatever system is in place, especially those who didn't get picked. There will always be complainers no matter what.

 

[screech339]

Hi, Can I submit application for my parents and my wife be the co-signer and She apply for her parents and I be the co-signer at the same time ?

Yes you can. But I think you need to make sure you qualify income for both your parents and your in laws combined, just in case both of you gets picked.

 

[canuck78]

I am glad that the Trudeau government finally realized that the lottery system was the best approach. Their attempt to go back to first come first serve approach last year was a total disaster. The cap was reached and website closed within minutes of opening. Who would have thought that wasn't going to happen. While there is no perfect system, lottery is the best approach. It is no different when there are more demand than there are spots available. No different from French immersions programs for example. People are going to hate whatever system is in place, especially those who didn't get picked. There will always be complainers no matter what.

Disagree. Think it would be best to reward those who are longterm taxpayers versus those who have just arrived.

Due think that given that we have huge backlogs in our healthcare system just due to covid on top of normal backlogs, large issues with longterm care standards and funding, a recession/higher unemployment and Canada is taking on debt like crazy so opening this program at the moment makes no sense. There are huge backlogs when it comes to spousal sponsorship and economic immigration which should take priority.

 

[screech339]

Disagree. Think it would be best to reward those who are longterm taxpayers versus those who have just arrived.

Due think that given that we have huge backlogs in our healthcare system just due to covid on top of normal backlogs, large issues with longterm care standards and funding, a recession/higher unemployment and Canada is taking on debt like crazy so opening this program at the moment makes no sense. There are huge backlogs when it comes to spousal sponsorship and economic immigration which should take priority.

I understand where you are coming from. If you want long term taypayers verses those who just arrived, simply increase the income qualification period to 10 years for example. This approach would weed out those who just arrived. Either way I am okay with it. But right now the rules will be likely 3 years qualification period much like it has since revamped PGP restarted up. If any government willing to increase the qualification period, it will need to be a Conservative government. A Liberal government will never increase it.

You know the Liberals government will want votes. They could have easily cancel PGP 2020 all together due to covid pandemic. This is purely PR move on their part to look good.

 

[Yash95]

Can anyone confirm the income requirements (periods) please? Will it be 2017/2018/2019 or 2018/2019/2020 income?

 

[Paul09]

Disagree. Think it would be best to reward those who are longterm taxpayers versus those who have just arrived.

Due think that given that we have huge backlogs in our healthcare system just due to covid on top of normal backlogs, large issues with longterm care standards and funding, a recession/higher unemployment and Canada is taking on debt like crazy so opening this program at the moment makes no sense. There are huge backlogs when it comes to spousal sponsorship and economic immigration which should take priority.

Correct, They should not have launched this program as they already facing huge backlogs. Should have suspended it for 2 years as they have already so many pending files to reach a decision on, some 2018 applications are still waiting.

Regarding the approach, I prefer first come first server bases(2019 process), as an applicant is responsible for their own file not dependent on luck.

 

[scylla]

Can anyone confirm the income requirements (periods) please? Will it be 2017/2018/2019 or 2018/2019/2020 income?

It will have to be 2017 to 2019 for the October opening. No one has filed 2020 tax returns yet since the year isn't finished.

 

[screech339]

Correct, They should not have launched this program as they already facing huge backlogs. Should have suspended it for 2 years as they have already so many pending files to reach a decision on, some 2018 applications are still waiting.

Regarding the approach, I prefer first come first server bases(2019 process), as an applicant is responsible for their own file not dependent on luck.

The applicant is still responsible for their own file regardless of the system, whether it is lottery or first come first serve, only difference is that no one will be able any advantage over anyone. Besides how can anyone be responsible for their file, if some one is using multiple high speed computers just to get a spot. We all have seen what happened, the cap reached within minutes of opening. Not everyone has internet at home, some go to the library. Not every one has good reflexes to type quickly in minutes.

 

[canuck78]

Correct, They should not have launched this program as they already facing huge backlogs. Should have suspended it for 2 years as they have already so many pending files to reach a decision on, some 2018 applications are still waiting.

Regarding the approach, I prefer first come first server bases(2019 process), as an applicant is responsible for their own file not dependent on luck.

It essentially favour those more technically savvy. Would not be surprised if many with only 3 years got selected.

This is all about politics. There is a high chance an election in the next year so they don’t want to delay the program.

 

[Paul09]

The applicant is still responsible for their own file regardless of the system, whether it is lottery or first come first serve.

No in the lottery you can not beat the system. But in FCFS, you have 8 mins to beat it. 27,000 applicants did it in 2019. Survival of best. Hey,,,but no hard feeling for anyone, everyone should get the opportunity to bring their parents here. I believe, FCFS is the best approach to give equal chance to everyone.

 

[PP2014]

Not able to find the income table on CIC website ?

If anyone found it pleas share the link ?

 

[scylla]

Not able to find the income table on CIC website ?

If anyone found it pleas share the link ?

Not finalized yet for 2020. Expect they'll be publishing that in the next few days. See:

https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=1445&top=14