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craigb2424

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Jul 5, 2019
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Tearing my hair out here! How/where do you add additional documents to prove your job? I have T4s and Pay Slips for all my jobs, just going to send it all through to be safe. But I see where I can attach my Employer Reference and at the bottom they have additional document, but you can only add one additional docucment???

On a seperate note about proof of funds, I know CEC don't need it, but it does say required...will it let you progress whilst leaving it blank? And what did people put on the information part about how much you will be bringing to Canada seeing as how you don't need proof of funds?
 

rizzipir

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Feb 20, 2020
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I honestly believe your way of thinking is very selfish (#sorry). I do support the current CRS score criteria, that delivers a HUGEEEE benefit of points to those who have Canadian education and Canadian experience. As you mentioned, you spent a plethora of money in that project, and therefore, you deserve to have the opportunity to settle in the country.
On the other hand, Express Entry exists as a way to bring the most skilled professionals to the country. It's not a program for "pay your international tuition and get your permanent residency as a bonus". In my opinion, an outland candidate that can surpass an inland candidate (even with the inland's huge point benefits for education and work experience) simply deserves to be accepted, as he has a clearly superior professional background, compared to the inland candidate.

I'm currently 30. I got my Engineer degree, I got my postgraduate degree, I worked for over 6 years in that field, I got CLB10 in all 4 skills (even though I never lived outside my non-English country), I learned french in 3 months to add additional points to my profile, and then here I'm at 475. I'm sorry, but if an inland candidate can't match my score (even with me already losing 5 points due to my age), it's not my fault.
I would love to study in Canada, but unfortunately I do not have the background of a rich family to support for my ultra expensive international student tuition.

Just accept it: CRS criteria is SUPER generous with inland candidates, and at the same time is super fare when it comes to outstanding outland candidates that excelled in their carriers and language skills. So, it's a competition. Deal with it. Stop complaining.
Careers!!!
 
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Nuzhat Ali

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Nov 13, 2019
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India
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Ottawa
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AOR Received.
06-03-2020
They can't and the recent draw is indicating that they want to focus on inland applicants. If no draw happens on April 1st or a Non FSW draw happens again, this will mean that they have given up on outland applicant's without PNP nominations. I am sure there are plenty of inland candidates in 430+ range so they don't have to worry about getting new inland profiles for a while atleast. And for outland applicants who got ITA's recently, they can just ignore their applications and not process them.
While it does seem they want to focus on inland applicants in the current scenario, it is extremely unlikely that they would simply ignore the previously submitted outland applications.

Inland applications are easier to process; they obviously want to continue working on meeting their annual immigration targets without being drastically affected by the current pandemic situation. I am an outland applicant myself and it appears no substantial progress has been made in my application ever since we submitted our biometrics. I am hopeful though that once the pandemic situation is under control, all outland applications will be back in processing.
 

brokenira

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Feb 27, 2020
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Im seeing a lot going around about how IRCC should not favour CEC candidates only while some people think they paid a lot thats why they deserve to be prioritized. Both are not true to be honest. Each of us spent a lot of efforts in many ways, some got a master degree and more than 3 years work experience in their home country while some studied and worked in Canada after graduation. The latter people receive bonus point for studying and working in Canada, there should not be any additional favours towards these candidates(myself is one of the CEC candidates).

IRCC conducted 2 CEC only draw (including the latest draw) in the past five years, I think it is pretty fair to both non-CEC and CEC candidates, but CEC candidates should not treat it as their privilege.

For the folks who are 465+ and still in the pool, the inflow number of new profile is very likely to slow down, so calm down and hope for the best!
 
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bosco2814

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Jan 5, 2020
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I received the ITA today.

I got a question about my working experience. My CRS 494.
However, I had a 4-years part-time (noc b) working experience equal to 2-years full time, which reference letter seems not eligible because it doesn't state my working hours.
If I don't put this working experience, I still score 470, which is still higher than the cut-off score 467.
Should I delete this working experience?

Thank you.
 

Eso221

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Sep 26, 2019
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I see a lot of people who are in Canada say they should be given more preference than people waiting outside because they spent a lot of money and they can easily get jobs that's total nonsense Canada has given people a rare opportunity to stay permanently and how they go about it should be theirs alone . No one forced u to go and study there is not ur right to be choose above others even though u guys have a tremendous advantage already . My sister do not have a Canadian degree nor did she have Canadian work experience but she was able to land a job within 3 weeks as a quality control manager in one of biggest companies that manufacture fames in canada alot of Canadians work under her. What I am trying to say is that assuming that Outland candidates won't find jobs or work minimum wage is rubbish talk everyone deserves to have this opportunity regardless of where u reside
 
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jrossi

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You're not in Canada, are you? Once you come here, you will see. Unless you are in the IT field, no one is going to care about your years of experience and education unless:
1. Your experience is gained in Canada
2. Your education is Canadian

You are maybe a brilliant professional (just speculating) but you will be competing for entry-level positions and your enormous experience and skills would not be needed that much.

I've seen it myself. I don't know what is your experience and education but I came to Canada with a STEM MBA degree from one the world's top business schools, located in the US. I have international experience (including US experience). Guess what, no one gives a sh*t. I still found myself competing for lower level positions with younger people who have less experience than me. And I am telling you, being overqualified is not helping.
And if you think that I am a unique case, I want to assure you that I am not.

You will not help the economy by being educated and experienced. You will help the economy by being employed and paying taxes. And the CEC guys, even those with no previous work experience, have a better shot at this than outlanders.
That's all part of my plan. I don't have, at any point, the expectation of arriving in Canada with a P.Eng position. At all.
As a matter of fact, one of the reasons why I'm trying to immigrate is to actually move to a lower position, with less responsibility, less crazy schedules, while sustaining my current lifestyle. Nowadays I work 10-11 hours a day, don't receive any extra hours payments for that (since I'm in a management position), and can't afford things that in North America are quite common, such as big house (instead of a tiny tiny apartment), a great car, etc. I just want to have an ordinary 40h/week job, that can pay my bills, and that don't require me to wake in the middle of the night to stay on the phone with technicians for the next 3 hours.

Honestly, I have read/watched over a hundreds (literally) blogs and youtube channels, from people of all sorts of nationality, and I'm pretty sure of what I'll face down the road, once I arrive in Canada.
I just don't accept that idea that a newcomer WILL HAVE to work a subway shop. It's all a matter of right planning. You need to have a skill that is necessary, you need to choose the right city, you need to build the right network.
As I said, I've been following a bunch of different immigrants, and I can see your point. I see a lot of families that arrive in Canada with a CLB5-6, doing some ordinary college program. These people usually don't want to integrate with the community, instead they confine themselves in their guetos, only hanging out with friends from their own country, they only speak their native language, etc. Of course they will find a hard time integrating with the economy.

I'm more than ready to spend the first 6 months in Canada working on minimum wage. I'm aware it might be a necessary step (but can also be avoidable if you do the right choices and plan ahead). But I'm pretty sure a CLB10 newcomer, with demanding skills and previous professional experience in these skills, in 6 months will be able to achieve the same level of professional integration that a CLB5-6 international student will take 3 years to get (considering a 2 yr college program + 1 yr in a skilled position).
I've seen dozens of cases like this. It's all of matter of right planning and understand what Canadians are looking for. People should stop blaming Canada for their lack of proper planning.

Careers!!!
Sorry, hahaha. Not quite sure why I mistyped this, specially considering that I work with carriers (yes, carriers) all day. My fault :p
 
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Canex17

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Feb 26, 2020
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Do you think I can go today/tomorrow to the bank and to my HR, and get my proof of funds and proof of work experience letters? Or will IRCC not like the fact that they're dated, say, 2 weeks before I receive an ITA?
It's really at the discretion of the Assessing Officer, but given current circumstances I'd assume once they are dated relatively close to your ITA date then you should be okay.
Tearing my hair out here! How/where do you add additional documents to prove your job? I have T4s and Pay Slips for all my jobs, just going to send it all through to be safe. But I see where I can attach my Employer Reference and at the bottom they have additional document, but you can only add one additional docucment???

On a seperate note about proof of funds, I know CEC don't need it, but it does say required...will it let you progress whilst leaving it blank? And what did people put on the information part about how much you will be bringing to Canada seeing as how you don't need proof of funds?
Merge multiple documents in to 1 file.

If you are providing proof of work experience then include your Letter of Employment, T4, payslip (and whatever else) merged in to a single file.

Basically, all related documents in one upload. What's also annoying about the system is files need to be <2mb so make sure you don't exceed that.
 

ZAtoCD

Champion Member
Nov 3, 2019
1,133
1,329
South Africa
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
1123
It's really at the discretion of the Assessing Officer, but given current circumstances I'd assume once they are dated relatively close to your ITA date then you should be okay.
Awesome, thank you. I don't mind having to get updated ones if need be, but it would have to be after the lock-down. Glad I have the docs ready now rather.

When does everyone suspect the next FSW draw to be? April 8th?
 

craigb2424

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Jul 5, 2019
101
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Anyone in Toronto know of an Internet cafe still open? Got all these documents that I need to scan but everywhere is closed!