Ray of Hope - 140th Draw

[Canex17]

did FSW did not get ITAs this as website mentions only CEC . See screenshot .

CEC-only draw today. FSW applicants were not drawn.

 

[Troy2245]

Hey guys
My friend with express entry has 470 points and still waiting for ITA after today’s draw
Will he get it or he has to wait yet?
Cos cut off was 467

thanks in advance

 

[samirsam]

Hey guys
My friend with express entry has 470 points and still waiting for ITA after today’s draw
Will he get it or he has to wait yet?
Cos cut off was 467

thanks in advance

Depends if he is CEC or not

 

[Singhhardy]

Got an ITA as well. Not sure how to handle Canadian Police Cert as all offices closed LOL

I don’t think you need police certificate from within canada , if you are currently residing there

 

[Singhhardy]

You don't need to provide a Canadian Police Cert. As per the this link: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/medical-police/police-certificates/how/canada.html

Applying for permanent residence
You don’t need to provide a police certificate when you apply for permanent residence in Canada.

The information says they'll inform you if they need one regardless of if you are currently in Canada or not. It appears you only need Police Certs for countries outside of Canada you may have lived in for 6+ months, unless specifically requested.

Correct me if I'm wrong though...

Yes that is right but since i am from India and i came to Canada when i was 17 , do i still need to get a police clearance certificate from India?

 

[zabrodov]

I just don't get how somehow could think that an international student, with no previous professional background, 1 yr of a so-so college program (let's face it), CLB9 and 1 yr of canadian experience at an entry level position can be of a better value to the Canadian economy than someone who mastered the language tests (sometimes, more than 1 language test), has many years of professional experience and many different levels of education (bachelor, master's, sometimes even Phds). Yet, the CRS score would score these 2 candidates very similarly... I just can't think that Canada is already giving more than enough points to these international students. But I don't complain, because I know they devoted a huge amount of money to be where they are.

You're not in Canada, are you? Once you come here, you will see. Unless you are in the IT field, no one is going to care about your years of experience and education unless:
1. Your experience is gained in Canada
2. Your education is Canadian

You are maybe a brilliant professional (just speculating) but you will be competing for entry-level positions and your enormous experience and skills would not be needed that much.

I've seen it myself. I don't know what is your experience and education but I came to Canada with a STEM MBA degree from one the world's top business schools, located in the US. I have international experience (including US experience). Guess what, no one gives a sh*t. I still found myself competing for lower level positions with younger people who have less experience than me. And I am telling you, being overqualified is not helping.
And if you think that I am a unique case, I want to assure you that I am not.

You will not help the economy by being educated and experienced. You will help the economy by being employed and paying taxes. And the CEC guys, even those with no previous work experience, have a better shot at this than outlanders.

 

[Canex17]

Yes that is right but since i am from India and i came to Canada when i was 17 , do i still need to get a police clearance certificate from India?

As per https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/apply-permanent-residence/police-certificates.html

"You don’t need to give us police certificates for any period of time before you were 18 years old or for time spent in Canada."

I undnerlined the relevant part, and it would appear you don't need to.

 

[pemyrie]

Got an ITA as well. Not sure how to handle Canadian Police Cert as all offices closed LOL

I am over 18 and got an ITA. I submitted my police cert from my country of birth but was still asked for RCMP( Canadian Poluce Cert) as an additional document request. This was about 3 weeks after submitting my application. I went to my local police station and told them I needed a police record for immigration, paid $30 and got back the report in 2 weeks. On the other hand my friend applied same time as me but wasn't asked for one. That being said, they might need it as well as they might not- you wont know until after you su MIT the application.
My opinion is to include it because it doesn't hurt-it can only help and the cost is minimal.
I think police stations are still open so of you can find a local precinct to visit that would be good

 

[ALEALB]

I honestly believe your way of thinking is very selfish (#sorry). I do support the current CRS score criteria, that delivers a HUGEEEE benefit of points to those who have Canadian education and Canadian experience. As you mentioned, you spent a plethora of money in that project, and therefore, you deserve to have the opportunity to settle in the country.
On the other hand, Express Entry exists as a way to bring the most skilled professionals to the country. It's not a program for "pay your international tuition and get your permanent residency as a bonus". In my opinion, an outland candidate that can surpass an inland candidate (even with the inland's huge point benefits for education and work experience) simply deserves to be accepted, as he has a clearly superior professional background, compared to the inland candidate.

I'm currently 30. I got my Engineer degree, I got my postgraduate degree, I worked for over 6 years in that field, I got CLB10 in all 4 skills (even though I never lived outside my non-English country), I learned french in 3 months to add additional points to my profile, and then here I'm at 475. I'm sorry, but if an inland candidate can't match my score (even with me already losing 5 points due to my age), it's not my fault.
I would love to study in Canada, but unfortunately I do not have the background of a rich family to support for my ultra expensive international student tuition.

Just accept it: CRS criteria is SUPER generous with inland candidates, and at the same time is super fare when it comes to outstanding outland candidates that excelled in their carriers and language skills. So, it's a competition. Deal with it. Stop complaining.

How selfish is to be able to ask a fair level playing fields for us folks who are already living here? Do you think that’s really selfish? Do you think being here not having a permanent status while having contributed to Canadian society while you havent is selfish? Do you think than having studied and worked for so long but yet struggle so much since we are letting everyone outside first than us when we clearly proven we have made this our home is selfish?

First, it’s not true we receive a big advantage since clearly a lot of us are struggling to find an ITA after qualifying for EE. The raise in score changes the whole picture. In 2018 people with 437 scores use to get an invitation, which represent a large part of international students. I think 437 is a fair score for someone who just started their professional career and it will be hard to find points otherwise without having to do a million other things.

I clearly stated we shouldn’t stop having a path for very skilled workers, however, it’s unfair that I have to be in the same category and have to basically compete with someone like you since we both meet the minimum criteria yet you’ve probably never lived here, paid Canadian taxes, participated in the Canadian economy, settled down, contributed in local community, gotten canadian experience or skills, bought Canadian assets or properties and so on.

My frustration was also that the CRS system must and SHOULD be a equal level playing field like it just happened. Single category Invitation! so then if you are really skilled, go knock yourself out but with your own category, definitely not with mine.

And yes, regarding the invested time and money which to be clear, I never said is supposed automatically entitled us to PR, its the real differentiator since Canadian SKILLS and CANADIAN EXPERIENCE and CANADIAN EDUCATION are FAR more valuable to the equivalent in other countries.

Some of us have been here for more than 6 years so that’s definitely a factor that should and must be considered

and I’m sorry, but a lot of people more qualified than you sometimes cannot adapt or find a job because highly skills careers such as engineers still need to validate or even re-do part of their career again and basically start from 0. Believe me, even though you may think because you have lots of experience,employers value A LOT more Canadian experience. not saying is the case for all, however, I know many engineers, lawyers and many immigrants with all degrees you even imagine working as an Uber driver because unless you studied or worked in North America, it’s hard to find a job.

Happy the goverment is finally making the right choice for others already here.

 

[ALEALB]

You're not in Canada, are you? Once you come here, you will see. Unless you are in the IT field, no one is going to care about your years of experience and education unless:
1. Your experience is gained in Canada
2. Your education is Canadian

You are maybe a brilliant professional (just speculating) but you will be competing for entry-level positions and your enormous experience and skills would not be needed that much.

I've seen it myself. I don't know what is your experience and education but I came to Canada with a STEM MBA degree from one the world's top business schools, located in the US. I have international experience (including US experience). Guess what, no one gives a sh*t. I still found myself competing for lower level positions with younger people who have less experience than me. And I am telling you, being overqualified is not helping.
And if you think that I am a unique case, I want to assure you that I am not.

You will not help the economy by being educated and experienced. You will help the economy by being employed and paying taxes. And the CEC guys, even those with no previous work experience, have a better shot at this than outlanders.

It’s clear that it will be hard for them to understand until they actually try to find a job and end up working 13 hours a day in a subway shop. Honestly, what is the point even? I wish this wasn’t the case but clearly adaptability is a big thing and it’s common sense someone already in Canada is far more valuable to many aspects of our society.

I think you comment is extremely accurate and People here should use for future reference.

 

[brokenira]

CRS calculation doesn't take into account how great your careers is. It just gives you points based on years you worked. That's it. Preferring those who are already established in the country would be fare.
On the other hand, it's in the power of the government to design the scoring system. If created it in the current way, then they apparently think that the system works properly to the benefit of the country.

thats why PNP are in place. To those high demands job and high demand of education. Lets say BCPNP, if you completed a master degree in health science from an university in BC, you can apply for BCPNP without any related job experience. This is another way to ensure new immigrants are "skilled professional". But here is the thing, i actually know somebody who completed a health science master degree who end up working as a teller at a bank...

 

[navinball]

Obviously people who paid taxes to canadian government should get first dibs.

 

[ZAtoCD]

CEC applicants don't need proof of funds.

Letters of Employment just need to be dated after you finished working for the employer.

I'm not a CEC applicant. I'm an FSW applicant, waiting for a future draw for an ITA. So, I'm wanting to get my documents now, before my country goes on lock-down.

And I am still working for my employer.

Do you think I can go today/tomorrow to the bank and to my HR, and get my proof of funds and proof of work experience letters? Or will IRCC not like the fact that they're dated, say, 2 weeks before I receive an ITA?

 

[KK_THE_GREAT]

I just got an ITA!!. Yayya. However, I submitted my PNP application Thursday and paid $1500, not sure if they will refund me. Any idea!.

If they have not started processing your application you can withdraw it now and they will refund the full amount

 

[13nitinsharma]

I just got an ITA!!. Yayya. However, I submitted my PNP application Thursday and paid $1500, not sure if they will refund me. Any idea!.

If you Ontario application is in "Submitted" status, you can withdraw the application and will get full refund.

If it has been moved to "Assessment" stage, then refund won't work.