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[vvvickyllll]

Hi, I got a letter from CIC for requesting the police certificates, it said "THIS IS YOUR FINAL REMINDER. NO FURTHER REQUESTS WILL BE SENT.", and also said it is Multiple. Is it normal?? What do you guys get??

The letter:

This is in reference to your application for permanent residence in Canada.
In order for us to continue the processing of your application, we require the following documents:

XXXXXXXX - XXXXX:

> Police Certificates (Multiple): Please provide a police certificate from the country where you currently live, if you have lived there for six months or more; and the country where you’ve spent most of your adult life since the age of 18. You are required to obtain a Police Certificate from that country’s law enforcement authorities. Please send the original police certificate to this office as soon as you receive it. If your police certificate indicates any charges and/or convictions, you must also provide court documents detailing the disposition of each charge and the sentence of each conviction. This must be received at this office by: 2020/05/21

 

[jerry22880]

I would say it is unfair to claim HKVC treats Chinese applicants unfairly There is no reason for them to treat applicants from all over the world differently, there is SOP for them to follow, it is just a job.

But from our own experience, mistakes do happen. In our case (from GCMS notes), they claimed that in our wedding card, someone said "Happy New Year" but it is really "Happy Wedding" in Chinese characters, and obviously they don't quite recognize the difference of these Chinese characters and that raised a red flag for them. But later on, when the case was reviewed by a senior officer, he/she claimed that it should be a minor "mistake" as it would not make sense to submit the card with such an obvious mistake to if we intend to cheat on IRCC, so it was dismissed without asking for an interview.

Now you have good information to your advantage to prepare for the interview. Relax but prepare for it seriously to clarify any doubts from IRCC. Good luck to you!

I would say it is unfair to claim HKVC treats Chinese applicants unfairly There is no reason for them to treat applicants from all over the world differently, there is SOP for them to follow, it is just a job.

But from our own experience, mistakes do happen. In our case (from GCMS notes), they claimed that in our wedding card, someone said "Happy New Year" but it is really "Happy Wedding" in Chinese characters, and obviously they don't quite recognize the difference of these Chinese characters and that raised a red flag for them. But later on, when the case was reviewed by a senior officer, he/she claimed that it should be a minor "mistake" as it would not make sense to submit the card with such an obvious mistake to if we intend to cheat on IRCC, so it was dismissed without asking for an interview.

Now you have good information to your advantage to prepare for the interview. Relax but prepare for it seriously to clarify any doubts from IRCC. Good luck to you!

Thank you for your wishes. You are a very kind person.
Actually we found out three points they made mistakes. One mistake totally destroys our reputation. We think it's the main reason they require us to have interview. The court order has mentioned 'standing in Loco Parentis'. They don't even know what exactly means. How do they qualify to be an immigration officer?

How did you have a senior officer to review your case again? Did you write an email to them after received the notes or make compliant letter via web form?

Anyway we could not change the fact. I have emailed them that I can not go to the interview until the Hong Kong government cancels the quarantine regulations. My travel documents are only allowed me to stay in Hong Kong within 7 days. But the quarantine regulation bars any person from mainland China whose travel documents under 14 days at the border.

I still wait for their response, whether to reschedule the interview date or give us a rejected result with our application.

 

[jerry22880]

Agree with the other posts, " now you have some idea where this is going ". The notes were useful.
Maybe some red flags with your application and now you get a chance to clarify everything. ( Hope you attend the interview together ).
Regarding the HK officers, I think they are extremely cautious now with any applicants due to the current situation.
Don't be surprised. I was there last year and seen many strange things.

Because the outbreak of coronavirus, I still don't know whether I can go to Hong Kong on the interview date. The border will deny us to enter into Hong Kong under the existing policy.
I was wonder what strange things you have seen.

 

[jerry22880]

Hi, I got a letter from CIC for requesting the police certificates, it said "THIS IS YOUR FINAL REMINDER. NO FURTHER REQUESTS WILL BE SENT.", and also said it is Multiple. Is it normal?? What do you guys get??

The letter:

This is in reference to your application for permanent residence in Canada.
In order for us to continue the processing of your application, we require the following documents:

XXXXXXXX - XXXXX:

> Police Certificates (Multiple): Please provide a police certificate from the country where you currently live, if you have lived there for six months or more; and the country where you’ve spent most of your adult life since the age of 18. You are required to obtain a Police Certificate from that country’s law enforcement authorities. Please send the original police certificate to this office as soon as you receive it. If your police certificate indicates any charges and/or convictions, you must also provide court documents detailing the disposition of each charge and the sentence of each conviction. This must be received at this office by: 2020/05/21

I think you need to send the police certificate as soon as possible. If the applicant is from mainland China or you lived in China over six months, you also need to have an notarization for the police certificate.

 

[Western Mountain Man]

Because the outbreak of coronavirus, I still don't know whether I can go to Hong Kong on the interview date. The border will deny us to enter into Hong Kong under the existing policy.
I was wonder what strange things you have seen.

Maybe they will require you to quarantine for 14 days prior to the interview ?
Then you will have to get your passport processed to extend the stay past 7 days per the requirements.

Should get clarification form the HK consulate office prior to the interview due to all these issues and
hopefully they will reschedule the appointment to a more reasonable time for everyone.

Witnessed many strange things unlike the west but I hope your age are not too far apart.

 

[jerry22880]

Maybe they will require you to quarantine for 14 days prior to the interview ?
Then you will have to get your passport processed to extend the stay past 7 days per the requirements.

Should get clarification form the HK consulate office prior to the interview due to all these issues and
hopefully they will reschedule the appointment to a more reasonable time for everyone.

Witnessed many strange things unlike the west but I hope your age are not too far apart.

I have emailed them all the exiting restrictions that don't allow me to go to have the interview and what we do last week. Hopefully they will reply to my email before the interview date.
There is not a big gap in our ages. My husband is just older than me five years. But I doesn't look in my age.

 

[Western Mountain Man]

I have emailed them all the exiting restrictions that don't allow me to go to have the interview and what we do last week. Hopefully they will reply to my email before the interview date.
There is not a big gap in our ages. My husband is just older than me five years. But I doesn't look in my age.

Everything is a little mixed up there now. Did you send them email or use webform?
You can also try calling the call center and if you get through they will add your questions/concerns to the notes.
They can forward the message to the visa office.

I have seen some big age gaps. Just seems a little strange to me.

 

[vvvickyllll]

I think you need to send the police certificate as soon as possible. If the applicant is from mainland China or you lived in China over six months, you also need to have an notarization for the police certificate.

Because I'm from Hong kong, I saw it on the website that hong kong applicant need to wait for the letter to apply the police certificate. But once I got the letter, its already final request, that scared me. Im working on it already, thanks!

 

[jerry22880]

I received the interview cancellation notification about 3pm this afternoon. It allows us to book the interview appointment after travel to Hong Kong as normal.

 

[ryester]

Thank you for your wishes. You are a very kind person.
Actually we found out three points they made mistakes. One mistake totally destroys our reputation. We think it's the main reason they require us to have interview. The court order has mentioned 'standing in Loco Parentis'. They don't even know what exactly means. How do they qualify to be an immigration officer?

How did you have a senior officer to review your case again? Did you write an email to them after received the notes or make compliant letter via web form?

Anyway we could not change the fact. I have emailed them that I can not go to the interview until the Hong Kong government cancels the quarantine regulations. My travel documents are only allowed me to stay in Hong Kong within 7 days. But the quarantine regulation bars any person from mainland China whose travel documents under 14 days at the border.

I still wait for their response, whether to reschedule the interview date or give us a rejected result with our application.

No, I did not write an email to them after receiving the notes. The same situation as yours, when we got the notes, every decision has been made. I noticed the case was reviewed because it documented a few days later after the doubt was made by a different officer it is purely my "derivative" that there is some sort of internal review step in the whole process to make sure every case is treated fairly.

The virus situation made everything so hard so don't get afraid or frustrated, just hang in there until all this passed and it would be a quite memorable retrospective for you.

 

[ryester]

I received the interview cancellation notification about 3pm this afternoon. It allows us to book the interview appointment after travel to Hong Kong as normal.

That is too bad. How can you know when traveling to Hong Kong is recovered to normality?

 

[jerry22880]

That is too bad. How can you know when traveling to Hong Kong is recovered to normality?

I don't know. I can not go to Hong Kong until Hong Kong government cancels the 14-days quarantine regulation.

 

[jerry22880]

No, I did not write an email to them after receiving the notes. The same situation as yours, when we got the notes, every decision has been made. I noticed the case was reviewed because it documented a few days later after the doubt was made by a different officer it is purely my "derivative" that there is some sort of internal review step in the whole process to make sure every case is treated fairly.

The virus situation made everything so hard so don't get afraid or frustrated, just hang in there until all this passed and it would be a quite memorable retrospective for you.

I have searched in the forum for a day. I guess no one has the similar errors the immigration officer made on their case. Actually, it's obvious mistake. The court order has mentioned that my husband was standing in loco parentis to the child (i.e., he is not the father of the child). As a matter of fact, that child is his ex wife with her another ex husband's kid. But when they divorced, his ex wife wanna have more money from him, sued him for child support until the child is 18 yrs old. That's the reason the court order has the child's name. The judgment has dismissed the child support request, because the kid is not from him. The immigration office seems not be familiar with Canadian law.
I have asked some people tonight. As their experiences, even though it's the immigration officer's mistake, they would not recognize and will insist his or her opinion to make decision.
It's not just purely the document we submitted rising the red. We said we both don't have child, but the immigration officer thinks he has a child. It's about honest and trust. The immigration think we lie on him/her. Actually, it's his/her mistake.

 

[Western Mountain Man]

I have searched in the forum for a day. I guess no one has the similar errors the immigration officer made on their case. Actually, it's obvious mistake. The court order has mentioned that my husband was standing in loco parentis to the child (i.e., he is not the father of the child). As a matter of fact, that child is his ex wife with her another ex husband's kid. But when they divorced, his ex wife wanna have more money from him, sued him for child support until the child is 18 yrs old. That's the reason the court order has the child's name. The judgment has dismissed the child support request, because the kid is not from him. The immigration office seems not be familiar with Canadian law.
I have asked some people tonight. As their experiences, even though it's the immigration officer's mistake, they would not recognize and will insist his or her opinion to make decision.
It's not just purely the document we submitted rising the red. We said we both don't have child, but the immigration officer thinks he has a child. It's about honest and trust. The immigration think we lie on him/her. Actually, it's his/her mistake.

Doesn't surprise me !
Immigration officers are not lawyers and I suspect there has been a genuine ' distrust ' from mainland applicants especially now with the
coronavirus situation. There are many different officers from different backgrounds. Most are well educated, respectful and
each have their own way of progressing, but they all have to follow the standards. I'm sure they make mistakes.
What I know is if you were previously married there will be a high chance of being hauled in for an interview.
Lots of " ex's " means lots of red flags.

You know where they stand on this issue.
You have some more time to come up with the proof.

 

[jerry22880]

Doesn't surprise me !
Immigration officers are not lawyers and I suspect there has been a genuine ' distrust ' from mainland applicants especially now with the
coronavirus situation. There are many different officers from different backgrounds. Most are well educated, respectful and
each have their own way of progressing, but they all have to follow the standards. I'm sure they make mistakes.
What I know is if you were previously married there will be a high chance of being hauled in for an interview.
Lots of " ex's " means lots of red flags.

You know where they stand on this issue.
You have some more time to come up with the proof.

Probably I should print out the article of related law as a reference, and find out the definition of child under the immigration guide.

Thank you for your help. I think you are right. Ex relationship rises the red flags.