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My score is 373, how can I improve it?

mrssmith87

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I don't understand why my husband and I both with Bachelor's degrees, 5+ years of professional experience, both 32 years old have scored so low. I have outlined my scores below. Any assistance or advice on how to go about improving the score to be in a better position to receive an ITA would be greatly appreciated.

Core/Human capital factors
  • Age = 85 (I'm 32 years old)
  • Level of education = 112 (I have a Bachelor's degree)
  • Official Languages = 118
    • First Official Language = 118 (IELTS score L-7.5, R-9, W-9, S-9)
    • Second Official Language = 0
  • Canadian work experience = 0
Subtotal - Core/Human capital factors = 315

Spouse factors
  • Level of education = 0 (currently awaiting his WES evaluation but he has a Bachelor's degree that is equivalent to Canadian Bachelor's)
  • First Official Languages = 20 (IELTS scores L-8, R-9, W-9, S-9)
  • Canadian work experience = 0
Subtotal - Spouse factors = 20

Skill transferability factors
Education
  • A) Official Language proficiency and education = 13
  • B) Canadian work experience and education = 0
Subtotal = 13

Foreign work experience
  • A) Official Language proficiency and foreign work experience = 25
  • B) Canadian and foreign work experience = 0
Subtotal = 25

Subtotal Skill transferability factors = 38


Comprehensive Ranking System formula
Subtotal Core/Human capital + Spouse factors + Skill transferability = 373

Provincial nomination = 0

Job offer = 0

Study in Canada = 0

Sibling in Canada = 0

French-language skills = 0

Subtotal Additional points = 0

Grand total = 373
 

Jets13

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I don't understand why my husband and I both with Bachelor's degrees, 5+ years of professional experience, both 32 years old have scored so low. I have outlined my scores below. Any assistance or advice on how to go about improving the score to be in a better position to receive an ITA would be greatly appreciated.

Core/Human capital factors
  • Age = 85 (I'm 32 years old)
  • Level of education = 112 (I have a Bachelor's degree)
  • Official Languages = 118
    • First Official Language = 118 (IELTS score L-7.5, R-9, W-9, S-9)
    • Second Official Language = 0
  • Canadian work experience = 0
Subtotal - Core/Human capital factors = 315

Spouse factors
  • Level of education = 0 (currently awaiting his WES evaluation but he has a Bachelor's degree that is equivalent to Canadian Bachelor's)
  • First Official Languages = 20 (IELTS scores L-8, R-9, W-9, S-9)
  • Canadian work experience = 0
Subtotal - Spouse factors = 20

Skill transferability factors
Education

  • A) Official Language proficiency and education = 13
  • B) Canadian work experience and education = 0
Subtotal = 13

Foreign work experience
  • A) Official Language proficiency and foreign work experience = 25
  • B) Canadian and foreign work experience = 0
Subtotal = 25

Subtotal Skill transferability factors = 38


Comprehensive Ranking System formula
Subtotal Core/Human capital + Spouse factors + Skill transferability = 373

Provincial nomination = 0

Job offer = 0

Study in Canada = 0

Sibling in Canada = 0

French-language skills = 0

Subtotal Additional points = 0

Grand total = 373
i would post this question in the express entry section of the forum and they will be better able to assist you there I believe.
 

bellaluna

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I don't understand why my husband and I both with Bachelor's degrees, 5+ years of professional experience, both 32 years old have scored so low. I have outlined my scores below. Any assistance or advice on how to go about improving the score to be in a better position to receive an ITA would be greatly appreciated.

Core/Human capital factors
  • Age = 85 (I'm 32 years old)
  • Level of education = 112 (I have a Bachelor's degree)
  • Official Languages = 118
    • First Official Language = 118 (IELTS score L-7.5, R-9, W-9, S-9)
    • Second Official Language = 0
  • Canadian work experience = 0
Subtotal - Core/Human capital factors = 315

Spouse factors
  • Level of education = 0 (currently awaiting his WES evaluation but he has a Bachelor's degree that is equivalent to Canadian Bachelor's)
  • First Official Languages = 20 (IELTS scores L-8, R-9, W-9, S-9)
  • Canadian work experience = 0
Subtotal - Spouse factors = 20

Skill transferability factors
Education

  • A) Official Language proficiency and education = 13
  • B) Canadian work experience and education = 0
Subtotal = 13

Foreign work experience
  • A) Official Language proficiency and foreign work experience = 25
  • B) Canadian and foreign work experience = 0
Subtotal = 25

Subtotal Skill transferability factors = 38


Comprehensive Ranking System formula
Subtotal Core/Human capital + Spouse factors + Skill transferability = 373

Provincial nomination = 0

Job offer = 0

Study in Canada = 0

Sibling in Canada = 0

French-language skills = 0

Subtotal Additional points = 0

Grand total = 373
Have your husband make a profile as primary applicant when he gets his ECA since his IELTS score will net the CLB 9 bonus. By my quick calculation using the tool, his score would be 433, but it still won't be enough for an ITA, not even if he improves his IELTS Listening to 8.5. The points dramatically get lower for people 30+ years.

Your two profiles can co-exist, and if you have different primary NOCs, you have a wider net to cast if you choose to apply to PNPs.
 
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mrssmith87

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Nov 14, 2019
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Bahamas
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FSW
NOC Code......
1111
I don't understand why my husband and I both with Bachelor's degrees, 5+ years of professional experience, both 32 years old have scored so low. I have outlined my scores below. Any assistance or advice on how to go about improving the score to be in a better position to receive an ITA would be greatly appreciated.

Core/Human capital factors
  • Age = 85 (I'm 32 years old)
  • Level of education = 112 (I have a Bachelor's degree)
  • Official Languages = 118
    • First Official Language = 118 (IELTS score L-7.5, R-9, W-9, S-9)
    • Second Official Language = 0
  • Canadian work experience = 0
Subtotal - Core/Human capital factors = 315

Spouse factors
  • Level of education = 0 (currently awaiting his WES evaluation but he has a Bachelor's degree that is equivalent to Canadian Bachelor's)
  • First Official Languages = 20 (IELTS scores L-8, R-9, W-9, S-9)
  • Canadian work experience = 0
Subtotal - Spouse factors = 20

Skill transferability factors
Education

  • A) Official Language proficiency and education = 13
  • B) Canadian work experience and education = 0
Subtotal = 13

Foreign work experience
  • A) Official Language proficiency and foreign work experience = 25
  • B) Canadian and foreign work experience = 0
Subtotal = 25

Subtotal Skill transferability factors = 38


Comprehensive Ranking System formula
Subtotal Core/Human capital + Spouse factors + Skill transferability = 373

Provincial nomination = 0

Job offer = 0

Study in Canada = 0

Sibling in Canada = 0

French-language skills = 0

Subtotal Additional points = 0

Grand total = 373
Thank you
 

mrssmith87

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Nov 14, 2019
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Bahamas
Category........
FSW
NOC Code......
1111
Have your husband make a profile as primary applicant when he gets his ECA since his IELTS score will net the CLB 9 bonus. By my quick calculation using the tool, his score would be 433, but it still won't be enough for an ITA, not even if he improves his IELTS Listening to 8.5. The points dramatically get lower for people 30+ years.

Your two profiles can co-exist, and if you have different primary NOCs, you have a wider net to cast if you choose to apply to PNPs.
Thank you for the information and advice. Greatly appreciated.
 

vensak

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there are things there that costs you points
1. you do not have 2 university diplomas or master or PHD. That alone costs you 25 points from transferability points.
2. Your listening result is not good enough. That is the only one that is below CBL 9. So that costs you another 25 points.

So if you want to maximize your points you should do following:
1. if you are the younger one go for another IELTS and get 8.5 from Listening 8 from Reading and 7.5 Speaking and Writing. That way you will maximize your language points and work experience transferability points.

If you are more serious, then one of you shall go for another university diploma (1 year of studies is ok). That would bring 25 points if that person is the main applicant.
And of course learn French. Because even if you get yourself on app. 440 points mark, that is way not enough now.

Optionally check for a suitable PNP.
 

mrssmith87

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Nov 14, 2019
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Bahamas
Category........
FSW
NOC Code......
1111
there are things there that costs you points
1. you do not have 2 university diplomas or master or PHD. That alone costs you 25 points from transferability points.
2. Your listening result is not good enough. That is the only one that is below CBL 9. So that costs you another 25 points.

So if you want to maximize your points you should do following:
1. if you are the younger one go for another IELTS and get 8.5 from Listening 8 from Reading and 7.5 Speaking and Writing. That way you will maximize your language points and work experience transferability points.

If you are more serious, then one of you shall go for another university diploma (1 year of studies is ok). That would bring 25 points if that person is the main applicant.
And of course learn French. Because even if you get yourself on app. 440 points mark, that is way not enough now.

Optionally check for a suitable PNP.
Thank you for the reply. I have a Bachelors and my CPA so before all my research I thought my CPA would qualify as another degree. I was quite disappointed that it doesn't.
I take your point on my IELTS scores, I am planning to retake the test in January 2020 to try improve my Listening score.
I considered taking a one year course to get a diploma but by the time it's completed, I will lose points on my age. But if this is the only option left to improve my score after I retake the exam, then I'll go for it.

Thank you! Really appreciate the advice.
 

vensak

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Thank you for the reply. I have a Bachelors and my CPA so before all my research I thought my CPA would qualify as another degree. I was quite disappointed that it doesn't.
I take your point on my IELTS scores, I am planning to retake the test in January 2020 to try improve my Listening score.
I considered taking a one year course to get a diploma but by the time it's completed, I will lose points on my age. But if this is the only option left to improve my score after I retake the exam, then I'll go for it.

Thank you! Really appreciate the advice.
you will trade -5 points for age against + 25 points (and even more as you will get more for educaion itself) for second university diploma. So adding 20+ points is not a bad choice. If you can combine it with learning French then it will be even better.