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Nakulkapur

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Feb 4, 2019
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India
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
4221
Pre-Assessed..
Yes
AOR Received.
23-08-2019
Med's Request
09-sep-2019
Med's Done....
09-09-2019
Dear Team,
I am in desperate need of your help.My immigration lawyer submitted me and my spouse's PR application on 22nd August.
Today we received a rejection email stating that we failed to submit biometric for my spouse who resides in India.I am on a valid work permit in Canada .My lawyer has never received any such email for biometrics at all and sent an email to CPC Ottawa for reopening the case.
What are the chances?
I do not want to incur a huge loss interms of time and money and start the process all over again.
Please check your EE account if you received the notification in the same.
 

troysknight

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Nov 12, 2019
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Medical Passed August 26


Starting a new thread for all those who intend or have received their AoR in August 2019, or anticipate filing their application in August 2019.

Sharing some useful info here:

Visa Office


There has been an obsession of finding which visa office the application is at. Many threads on this forum start with explaining how to find your visa office. Let's get to the crux of it. Finding the visa office was very relevant pre- express entry. Even after the introduction of express entry in 2015, the same practice was followed which usually was for the paper based application, but that is no longer the case. Earlier all application followed the following trajectory:

Central Intake Office - Case Processing Centre - Local Visa Office

However, this has radically changed and for all express entry, all application follow the following:

1. Central Intake Office -
The R10 (completeness check) is done at the Central Intake Office for all classes (FSW / PNP / CEC). Now even the criminality and medicals are done at CIO.

2. Case Processing Centre - These are 4 CPCs in Canada

CPC in Edmonton


The case processing centre in Edmonton processes:

extensions for temporary resident status and temporary resident permits
work and study permits
applications for permanent residence from protected persons and convention refugees in Canada
applications for permanent residence for live-in caregivers
applications for permanent residence under Caring for Children and Caring for People with High Medical Needs pathways
applications for permenent residence under the temporary resident permit holder class
loans for the right of permanent residence fee


CPC in Mississauga

The case processing centre in Mississauga processes applications to sponsor family members living in Canada and abroad.

CPC and CIO in Sydney

The CPC in Sydney processes:

applications for permanent resident cards (new and renewals)
citizenship applications (new, renouncing, revoking and resuming)
The centralized intake office in Sydney (CIO-S) receives all applications in the following categories:

Federal Skilled Worker
Federal Skilled Trades
Canadian Experience Class
Provincial Nominee Program
Start-Up Visa
Quebec Investors or Entrepreneurs
Quebec Skilled Workers
Immigrant Investor Venture Capital Class
Federal Self-Employed Persons and Quebec Selected Self-Employed Persons


CPC in Ottawa

The case processing centre office in Ottawa (CPC-O) processes:

visitor visa (temporary resident visa) applications from within Canada for applicants with valid status (students or temporary foreign workers only).
permanent resident visa applications from the United States and Canada, after they have been received and deemed complete by CPC-M or CIO-S.


OSC in Ottawa

The Operations Support Centre (OSC) processes the following applications:

International Experience Canada work permits
In-Canada temporary resident applications submitted online
Verification of Status (VOS)
Replacement of valid temporary resident documents
Amendment of immigration documents and of valid temporary resident documents


Local Visa Office - This is the office where you will be asked to submit your passport after your application has been approved. Usually the consulate in your home country.

These days all application after starting at CIO (where R10 is met), either start the processing of eligibility at CIO itself, or move to CPC (wither Ottawa, Sydney, or Vegreville), or are straight sent to the LVO. The trend has been to complete most of the processing between CIO and CPC. Since the applications are electronically stored, there is no movement of physical files.

SUGGESTION - There is no point sending emails to ask which VO your application is at, as that process is moot since the eligibility can even start at CIO. So save yourself some time and efforts and also save the human resources of IRCC and stop sending emails. Even if you know which VO your application is at, it means nothing. Most applications which are processed within weeks and get PPR, are processed at CIO, and this is a much faster way.

A few applications will see eligibility passed, and then go to not started when the application is sent to the LVO. This is because the final review is done at the LVO, and the local agent may decide to conduct additional review, or identification before the eligibility is finally set to PASSED.



Tracking your application

Unfortunately the only thing that you see is your MyCIC account. There has been a growing trend of speculation where change of status on MyCIC has been attributed to eligibility being passed, etc. The whole NA, IP IP2 is speculation and has no bearing on determining which stage your application is at. While any change of status is a good sign, but merely relying on NA and IP is not the correct way.

Most applicants will find it irrelevant, as their applications will be processed and approved within the first 3-4 months. It is those who wait for more than 4 months, where things go crazy as they keep relying on NA, IP etc, and see no movement or progress. Many other are stuck on so called IP2, and the PPR never seems to come.

So put these speculative theories to rest. As per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, regulations and the ministeral instructions every application goes through the following stages:

R10 (Completeness check)
Medicals
Criminality
A11.2 Eligibility (The most important stage)
Security


To read more on each stage click here. While most applicants will not need to go this deep, but for those who have concerns about the application or it is taking too long should see which stage they are at. Also, the only way to determine the stage is by GCMS notes. To read more on GCMS notes, see the thread here.

ECAS (Electronic Client Application Status) -

This was the most important tool pre EE to track an application and provided much more in-depth status than what MyCIC does. However, after the IRCC moved to the Global Case Management System (AKA GCMS) applications are no longer linked to ECAS.

So there is no point going there and checking.

Letter of Explanation -
As the name suggests, the LoE is exact what it sounds like. It is not an idea for the documents and you do not have to explain each document you are submitting in your application.

The simple rules to follow for LoE -

  • Should be 1-2 pages in length. If you cannot explain it in 1-2 pages, it is probably not worth it.
  • Only use LoE to explain an issue. Eg. you could not obtain a reference letter on letterhead, could not meet PoF 6 months avg balance, seeking exemption or extension from PCC, or to explain something in your application which is not clear.
  • IRCC Agents do read LoE, but if its too long and not to the point, it loses its importance.
  • You DO NOT need an index for your documents. There are placeholders for the documents just put each document there and when it is stored on the IRCC system it is names and stored in an organized way.


SOME USEFUL LINKS:

**Guide to Landing and Setteling** - https://goo.gl/8vQzcd
**Proof of Funds** - https://goo.gl/mPejMN
**Medicals** - https://goo.gl/Xpmj5e
**Age and EE** - https://goo.gl/u8bqAU
**Stages of EE Application ** - https://goo.gl/AmdtgR
**GCMS Notes** - https://goo.gl/Jhk1Un
**Keep GCMS Notes Safe** - https://goo.gl/97J7AT
**Add Spouse to app** - https://goo.gl/ZgRP6C
**PNP and its obligations** - https://goo.gl/XUva1e

All the best!!


THESE ARE MY VIEWS AND YOU DO NOT HAVE TO SUBSCRIBE TO THESE. IF YOU HAVE CONTRARY VIEWS, JUST IGNORE IT AND DO WHAT YOUR CONSULTANT ASKED YOU, OR WHAT YOU DEEM FIT.
 

yuyu

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Aug 25, 2012
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Ghost update in my CIC profile today, no email but saw in my cic account :

ITA: 26 June
AOR: 1 Aug
MEP: 27 AUG
Ghost update : 13 Nov
Called IRCC Twice. Latest was to say criminality in prog (prolly ghost update for this)
 
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jane97604

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Apr 7, 2019
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Ghost update in my CIC profile today, no email but saw in my cic account :

ITA: 26 June
AOR: 1 Aug
MEP: 27 AUG
Ghost update : 13 Nov
Called IRCC Twice. Latest was to say criminality in prog (prolly ghost update for this)
PPR coming soon
 

antique

Star Member
Oct 19, 2013
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Ghost update in my CIC profile today, no email but saw in my cic account :

ITA: 26 June
AOR: 1 Aug
MEP: 27 AUG
Ghost update : 13 Nov
Called IRCC Twice. Latest was to say criminality in prog (prolly ghost update for this)
keep us updated on PPR
 

ryeCatcher

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Apr 21, 2019
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ITA : June 12th
AOR : August 7th
Medicals Passes : August 29th
Biometrics submitted : September 16th

No update since then :(

Please add/invite me to whatsapp group for August AOR
 

jane97604

Full Member
Apr 7, 2019
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ITA : June 12th
AOR : August 7th
Medicals Passes : August 29th
Biometrics submitted : September 16th

No update since then :(

Please add/invite me to whatsapp group for August AOR
My timeline is exactly same as yours except biometrics. What does it say in your biometrics line?
 
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ryeCatcher

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My timeline is exactly same as yours except biometrics. What does it say in your biometrics line?
Actually my biometrics line says :

"We have not received your fingerprints. Check your biometrics request message below for details"

Which is really worrying to me. At the top (right) under "Applicant Information" I do see :

Biometrics:
  • Biometrics Number: CIC000000440559....
  • Date of Biometrics Enrolment: September 16, 2019
  • Expiry Date: September 16, 2029
I had called a month ago and the agent told me not to worry about it since I have a biometrics number, that means its been received.
But I am nervous that my file is perhaps still flagged as incomplete so not being looked at, thinking about calling again.
 

jane97604

Full Member
Apr 7, 2019
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Actually my biometrics line says :

"We have not received your fingerprints. Check your biometrics request message below for details"

Which is really worrying to me. At the top (right) under "Applicant Information" I do see :

Biometrics:
  • Biometrics Number: CIC000000440559....
  • Date of Biometrics Enrolment: September 16, 2019
  • Expiry Date: September 16, 2029
I had called a month ago and the agent told me not to worry about it since I have a biometrics number, that means its been received.
But I am nervous that my file is perhaps still flagged as incomplete so not being looked at, thinking about calling again.
For sure, they have received your biometrics, but not updated it in your account. As you have a Biometrics number and you have already given your biometrics, you don’t need to worry. It will take sometime to update. But keep tracking your application.
 
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ryeCatcher

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For sure, they have received your biometrics, but not updated it in your account. As you have a Biometrics number and you have already given your biometrics, you don’t need to worry. It will take sometime to update. But keep tracking your application.
Have you given biometrics? Is your status updated