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Priya0227

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I took them on September 25th, so I guess they technically end on that day, although my profile was updated and now it shows:

Review of medical results
  • August 23, 2019 You passed the medical exam

Can't really tell if that means they were extended.
Were u asked for any additional medical tests?
 

Lydz86

Star Member
Nov 11, 2018
72
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Hi SithLord,

Just want to run my file across you. Recently received our GCMS notes.
My wife has Crohn's disease (an auto-immune disorder) which requires Humira (a biologic drug which is quite expensive and possibly throws us over the annual threshold). She is currently in remission and under control and has been for a few years now (thanks to the drug). She is the main applicant and i am the co-applicant.
As a result, our immigration officer decided we should not to pay the RPRF upfront. Instead she wanted to wait for CIC to request the RPRF as to give us a better indication that they are less likely to reject our file or issue a PFL should they request the payment of RPRF.
The RPRF came on 16th May 2019 and we paid on 17th May 2019. After this, nothing.

We have not been issued with any PFL, but we were both requested to redo our medical tests (requested to redo medicals received 08th Aug 2019). When we went, the doctor said that it is most likely that they are just seeing whether her condition has worsened or whether it has remained stable over this time before granting the visa. Her condition has remained the same and stable. Our medicals were re-done and completed last Monday (19th August 2019) and most likely uploaded to CIC middle to end of last week.

What do you think? You think they are likely to issue a PFL after all has happened above and with below details?

AOR 20 Nov 2018 (SW1-FED)
Assessments:
Eligibility:
Passed
Security: Blank
HIRV: Blank
Criminality: Passed
Medical: In progress
On a side note, GCMS notes state my wife's medical is "Ready to be Assessed". Whereas mine states "Passed".

Note 9: at the bottom of GCMS notes dated 15th May 2019 (day before RPRF requested to us) states:
Text:
Case Analyst: recommend pass lock-in date: 2018-11-20. Having analyzed this application based on the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file, I make the following recommendation.
RECOMMENDATION: recommend Pass MI3 A11.2: Appears Met R75: FSW Min Requirements - Appears Met R76: Selection Criteria - FSW Points/Funds: Appears Met FSW points total: 67 Outstanding Documents (Requested): - RPRF - PA MEDICAL - In progress RPRF: Outstanding

Note 1: Dated 28th June 2019 (last note)
Text: Status inquiry received from PA via email. Confirmed that file is currently awaiting officer review.
If your wife passed the medical the first time then I think your doctor's assumption is wrong. CIC is probably finalising your application and giving you a remedical so that you have enough time to enter before the old one expires. They've been doing that for many people who had AoR in October and November so look at it as a good sign and try not to worry especially since eligibility was met before. Good luck
 

Alecm464

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Feb 3, 2019
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Also, on our GCMS notes my wife has the following under her medical:

Due Date: 2019/01/23
M Profile: 5
Description: Has a condition which might reasonably be expected to cause excessive demand on health or social services to such an extent that the applicant is inadmissible under Section 38(1)(c)
S Profile: 1
Description: No surveillance required
MOF Rationale Exists: No

I have done some research and below is what M5 profile states and well as S Profiles there are:
So even though there is M5 profile, there are no additional descriptive codes (T9/H9/E9), and her S Profile is S1 which is good and her MOF Rationale is No.

Would anyone have any thoughts on this? Possibility of PFL after re-medicals done and submitted?

M5

Inadmissible due to excessive demand on health and social services.

For all M5 codes, the medical officer will add a descriptive code indicating the nature of the excessive demand:

  • T9 - for excessive demand on social services;
  • H9 - for excessive demand on health services;
  • E9 - for displacement of Canadians who are on a waiting list.

Surveillance codes (“S” criterion)

All cases require an “S” code.

S1
No requirement for medical surveillance

Note: For M1 profiles, the surveillance code is defaulted to S1. For other medical profiles, the surveillance code “S1” needs to be manually selected.

S2.01
Applicant is inadmissible to Canada (active tuberculosis); used in conjunction with the medical profile M4.
S2.02
Medical surveillance required. Conditional entry recommended if granted entry to Canada (pulmonary tuberculosis inactive).
S2.02U
Medical surveillance required. Conditional entry recommended if granted entry to Canada (complex pulmonary tuberculosis inactive).
 

Alecm464

Full Member
Feb 3, 2019
43
26
If your wife passed the medical the first time then I think your doctor's assumption is wrong. CIC is probably finalising your application and giving you a remedical so that you have enough time to enter before the old one expires. They've been doing that for many people who had AoR in October and November so look at it as a good sign and try not to worry especially since eligibility was met before. Good luck
Hi,
My wife's medical has not been passed.
My medical has been passed, but hers still says "ready to be assessed".
 

Lydz86

Star Member
Nov 11, 2018
72
72
Hi,
My wife's medical has not been passed.
My medical has been passed, but hers still says "ready to be assessed".
Oh I'm sorry. I misunderstood. It's a bit strange because if they finally completed the assessment of your wife's medical then they must have made a positive decision since they're requesting a re-medical. Her Crohn's disease is chronic and having her do another medical to confirm she still has it would be a waste of time. I still think they are simply finalising your application. I hope for your sake that's the case.
 

SithLord

VIP Member
Aug 18, 2017
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Hi SithLord,

Just want to run my file across you. Recently received our GCMS notes.
My wife has Crohn's disease (an auto-immune disorder) which requires Humira (a biologic drug which is quite expensive and possibly throws us over the annual threshold). She is currently in remission and under control and has been for a few years now (thanks to the drug). She is the main applicant and i am the co-applicant.
As a result, our immigration officer decided we should not to pay the RPRF upfront. Instead she wanted to wait for CIC to request the RPRF as to give us a better indication that they are less likely to reject our file or issue a PFL should they request the payment of RPRF.
The RPRF came on 16th May 2019 and we paid on 17th May 2019. After this, nothing.

We have not been issued with any PFL, but we were both requested to redo our medical tests (requested to redo medicals received 08th Aug 2019). When we went, the doctor said that it is most likely that they are just seeing whether her condition has worsened or whether it has remained stable over this time before granting the visa. Her condition has remained the same and stable. Our medicals were re-done and completed last Monday (19th August 2019) and most likely uploaded to CIC middle to end of last week.

What do you think? You think they are likely to issue a PFL after all has happened above and with below details?

AOR 20 Nov 2018 (SW1-FED)
Assessments:
Eligibility:
Passed
Security: Blank
HIRV: Blank
Criminality: Passed
Medical: In progress
On a side note, GCMS notes state my wife's medical is "Ready to be Assessed". Whereas mine states "Passed".

Note 9: at the bottom of GCMS notes dated 15th May 2019 (day before RPRF requested to us) states:
Text:
Case Analyst: recommend pass lock-in date: 2018-11-20. Having analyzed this application based on the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file, I make the following recommendation.
RECOMMENDATION: recommend Pass MI3 A11.2: Appears Met R75: FSW Min Requirements - Appears Met R76: Selection Criteria - FSW Points/Funds: Appears Met FSW points total: 67 Outstanding Documents (Requested): - RPRF - PA MEDICAL - In progress RPRF: Outstanding

Note 1: Dated 28th June 2019 (last note)
Text: Status inquiry received from PA via email. Confirmed that file is currently awaiting officer review.
Currently awaiting officer review generally means Review Required. In your case it implies for medicals. The case officer probably wants to make sure your wife's medical condition will not be a burden on Canada's health-care system. Did you provide a letter of explanation regarding that?

Humira is an expensive medication and will exceed the yearly limit without any doctor's visits. You will have to give proper explanation how your wife will not be health risk on healthcare.

getting a medical request is a very positive sign. So I would probably say you are chances of getting approved look good.

Do not worry, they will not reject your case on the grounds of inadmissibility, as long as you can convince them your wife will not be heavy burden on the health care system. :)

Here's a similar case with Chrohn's disease who passed medicals earlier in the year. I hope this gives you a lot of hope :)
https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/further-medical-information-request-crohns-disease.611973/
 
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SithLord

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Aug 18, 2017
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I took them on September 25th, so I guess they technically end on that day, although my profile was updated and now it shows:

Review of medical results
  • August 23, 2019 You passed the medical exam

Can't really tell if that means they were extended.
They have extended medical which is good news :)
 
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pavan23

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Nov 18, 2014
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Also, on our GCMS notes my wife has the following under her medical:

Due Date: 2019/01/23
M Profile: 5
Description: Has a condition which might reasonably be expected to cause excessive demand on health or social services to such an extent that the applicant is inadmissible under Section 38(1)(c)
S Profile: 1
Description: No surveillance required
MOF Rationale Exists: No

I have done some research and below is what M5 profile states and well as S Profiles there are:
So even though there is M5 profile, there are no additional descriptive codes (T9/H9/E9), and her S Profile is S1 which is good and her MOF Rationale is No.

Would anyone have any thoughts on this? Possibility of PFL after re-medicals done and submitted?

M5

Inadmissible due to excessive demand on health and social services.

For all M5 codes, the medical officer will add a descriptive code indicating the nature of the excessive demand:

  • T9 - for excessive demand on social services;
  • H9 - for excessive demand on health services;
  • E9 - for displacement of Canadians who are on a waiting list.

Surveillance codes (“S” criterion)

All cases require an “S” code.

S1
No requirement for medical surveillance

Note: For M1 profiles, the surveillance code is defaulted to S1. For other medical profiles, the surveillance code “S1” needs to be manually selected.

S2.01
Applicant is inadmissible to Canada (active tuberculosis); used in conjunction with the medical profile M4.
S2.02
Medical surveillance required. Conditional entry recommended if granted entry to Canada (pulmonary tuberculosis inactive).
S2.02U
Medical surveillance required. Conditional entry recommended if granted entry to Canada (complex pulmonary tuberculosis inactive).

Hey, I have similar status on my GCMS for my spouse

Due Date: 2019/05/23
M Profile: 5
Description: Has a condition which might reasonably be expected to cause excessive demand on health or social services to such an extent that the applicant is inadmissible under Section 38(1)
S Profile: 2.02
Description: Inactive TB
MOF Rationale Exists: YES

AOR : September 17th

Ready to be assessed. Haven't received any remedicals.

 

Priya0227

Champion Member
Mar 7, 2019
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Just called ircc.......
Same response.....
They can't give me any due date.....
They can't send reminder ......
They can't answer any question
That's what the agent kept repeating
Let's see what this week brings .......
 
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SithLord

VIP Member
Aug 18, 2017
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Just called ircc.......
Same response.....
They can't give me any due date.....
They can't send reminder ......
They can't answer any question
That's what the agent kept repeating
Let's see what this week brings .......
I think for 2018 applications they no longer provide a due date. My August 29, 2019 due date was also removed.
 

Alecm464

Full Member
Feb 3, 2019
43
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Currently awaiting officer review generally means Review Required. In your case it implies for medicals. The case officer probably wants to make sure your wife's medical condition will not be a burden on Canada's health-care system. Did you provide a letter of explanation regarding that?

Humira is an expensive medication and will exceed the yearly limit without any doctor's visits. You will have to give proper explanation how your wife will not be health risk on healthcare.

getting a medical request is a very positive sign. So I would probably say you are chances of getting approved look good.

Do not worry, they will not reject your case on the grounds of inadmissibility, as long as you can convince them your wife will not be heavy burden on the health care system. :)

Here's a similar case with Chrohn's disease who passed medicals earlier in the year. I hope this gives you a lot of hope :)
https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/further-medical-information-request-crohns-disease.611973/
Hi Sith,

Thank you for your feedback, very helpful and positive to hear the re-medicals is a good sign.
We gave all relevant doctor letters (from her Gastroenterologist) which provides information as to her medical condition and the remission she is in.
However, no LOE has been sent to the CIC which explains how she will not be a burden.

You think we should we send that through now?
Is that not something which we should only do when/if PFL is issued to us (or if we submit a LOE will it likely avoid the PFL?)?

Also, the doctor who did our medicals said there are different costs used when determining the cost of medicine. Do you know of anything like this? Possibly differing prices of Humira drug? *I am not so sure myself.

How could we explain the mitigation of the cost of a drug which she needs in order to stay healthy?
Has anyone got any experience in this or heard anything or about anyone who can provide advise on this matter? How do people go around this?
 

devikaroland

Hero Member
Aug 21, 2018
308
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Edmonton, AB, CA
Category........
AINP
NOC Code......
1311
Job Offer........
Yes
App. Filed.......
28-02-2019
Nomination.....
12-04-2019
AOR Received.
10-05-2019
My GCMS notes says, they verified my work experience by calling my employer's office :)
Hey , the employer they call was it with regards to the ADR for employment proof you send. when did they call, this is a good sign .