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Sandhusarwar

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Ottawa
NOC Code......
4031
App. Filed.......
20 November
AOR Received.
20 November
Can you review your notes again, maybe there is some other issue regarding "Unable to confirm work period". maybe they are unable to contact your employer and they are referring to the letter issue date "01-nov-2018" as to refer to the letters not to the actual work period of 5 years.
Nopes... Clearly mentioned loe not dated. Noway they could not contact them.provided business cards of directors , principal, account and admin officer of institute.letter head has all the details of address and corporate office.
Web search confirmation is in notes.
 

kzeed12

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AOR Received.
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Response from Ralph Goodale's office on May 7th, 2019

Eligibility -Recommended Pass
Criminality - Passed
Security - Not started and cannot be expedited at this time
Medicals are valid till October, 16 2019

Response from Ralph Goodale's office on August 15th, 2019

Eligibility -Recommended Pass
Criminality - Passed
Security - Not started and cannot be expedited at this time
Medicals are valid till October, 16 2019

I can contact him next on November 15, 2019. I am sure his response will still be same. Only change will be Medicals have expired.
@SithLord i dont think its anything with your application .. the case analyst was not confident enough to mark it Passed instead of recommended pass - probably someone new - screwed it up ..
And IRCC is shot up with applications to even move their pinky to revisit the files in Queue,..
Broken System and you end up suffering

sry bro
 
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Sandhusarwar

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Jul 25, 2018
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Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4031
App. Filed.......
20 November
AOR Received.
20 November
Response from Ralph Goodale's office on May 7th, 2019

Eligibility -Recommended Pass
Criminality - Passed
Security - Not started and cannot be expedited at this time
Medicals are valid till October, 16 2019

Response from Ralph Goodale's office on August 15th, 2019

Eligibility -Recommended Pass
Criminality - Passed
Security - Not started and cannot be expedited at this time
Medicals are valid till October, 16 2019

I can contact him next on November 15, 2019. I am sure his response will still be same. Only change will be Medicals have expired.
LoL....but I seriously wish u don't have to contact him again Sith. What about your Australia state nomination , in progress
 
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thecoolguysam

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Nopes... Clearly mentioned loe not dated. Noway they could not contact them.provided business cards of directors , principal, account and admin officer of institute.letter head has all the details of address and corporate office.
Web search confirmation is in notes.
Hmmmm....
What's the date on the LOE?
What are the dates mentioned regarding from and to? Just month/year?
 

Sandhusarwar

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20 November
AOR Received.
20 November
@SithLord i dont think its anything with your application .. the case analyst was not confident enough to mark it Passed instead of recommended pass - probably someone new ..
And IRCC is shot up with applications to even move their pinky to revisit the files in Queue,..
Broken System

sry bro
But in his case they even asked for ADR.
Then what was the damn purpose of adrs. Adrs are meant to be clarifying issues.still he is waiting.
This is just not fair .wish I could sue them.
 

Sandhusarwar

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Jul 25, 2018
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Category........
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Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4031
App. Filed.......
20 November
AOR Received.
20 November
Hmmmm....
What's the date on the LOE?
What are the dates mentioned regarding from and to? Just month/year?
No 15jan2013 to 1nov 2018.
Second one is 1feb 2017to
present. And I provided 6months statement of salary account showing salary deposit. 3months recent payslips.
5years statement of EPFO.
Even a chaprasi of my office can calculate and tell you about my work duration.
 

SithLord

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are the cutoffs for ITAs becoming higher?I have been out of loop with respect to ITAs and cut offs.I was under the impression that IRCC was lowering the cut offs in 2018
Cut offs are at insane level now. There hasn't been a cut off below 455 for months and it's only getting higher.
 
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SithLord

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@SithLord i dont think its anything with your application .. the case analyst was not confident enough to mark it Passed instead of recommended pass - probably someone new - screwed it up ..
And IRCC is shot up with applications to even move their pinky to revisit the files in Queue,..
Broken System and you end up suffering

sry bro
Their incompetence is really starting to get embarrassing.

I don't understand how Ahmed Hussen praised his immigration officers for their outstanding effort? Does it really look like they are doing outstanding work?
 
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kzeed12

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But in his case they even asked for ADR.
Then what was the damn purpose of adrs. Adrs are meant to be clarifying issues.still he is waiting.
This is just not fair .wish I could sue them.
they wouldnt even have looked into ADR or file once it was provided - still waiting to be worked on..
Files that are in queue - if reopened would move fast - its just the matter of reopening or taking a peek..
they might be caught up so badly with the 80% target or whatever target has been put on them to process for the current files - they hardly get a chance to reopen backlog files in queue
 

H0peAndFa1th

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system is fine, considering the number of applications they are processing, 80% is higher number for them

nobody cares about rest of 20%, its like "itna to chalta hai"

they are looking at bigger picture, which is, getting skilled immigrants, as fast as they can to compete with other countries.
 

kzeed12

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May 28, 2019
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22-09-2018
Their incompetence is really starting to get embarrassing.

I don't understand how Ahmed Hussen praised his immigration officers for their outstanding effort? Does it really look like they are doing outstanding work?
i do not think they really care about being embarased - looks like they know about their system - they are way past that ..
That is why nowadays when you call the +1-613 number - they say not to use profanity - because of stressed out candidates calling them and venting at them..

i kinda regret on applying - i should have looked into Australia or Newzealand - its too late now after 2 years time and effort invested into this bull crap ..

Started thinking about this process almost 2 years with wes / ielts / pcc's ..

its sad
 
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Sandhusarwar

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NOC Code......
4031
App. Filed.......
20 November
AOR Received.
20 November
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Why is CIC so slow and what are their employees doing all day?
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Martin Levine
, former Canadian Foreign Service Officer at Government of Canada (1978-2009)
Updated Sep 12, 2017

As I have said in other answers, I am a retired visa officer (Canadian overseas immigration officer). I worked for CIC and its predecessors for many years.

Concerning “slow”, are you speaking of applications for visitor visas or applications to immigrate to Canada? Processing procedures and processing times are very different depending on what sort of visa you are applying for.

Visa applicants so often seem to imagine that CIC and its programming must be the most important activity conducted by the Government of Canada. It’s not even close. Historically immigration and visas have been much lower priorities than other Government of Canada activity, such as Employment Insurance, National Defence, international trade relations, income tax collection, implementing bilingualism legislation, regulating and ensuring the safety of the transportation industry, the pharmaceutical industry etc. After all, immigration applicants don’t vote.

The Government of Canada has a central budgetary agency called the Treasury Board. Each fiscal year every Government of Canada department must apply to the Treasury Board for its funding. The Treasury Board is responsible for advising the Prime Minister and the federal Cabinet about priorities for disbursing Government of Canada funds. The Government of Canada never has anything near the funds to resource every department to the hilt. There is no real reason to identify CIC as a special priority to receive large amounts of funding and resources.

The funds paid by visa applicants do not go into a special CIC account. Those fees are paid to the Receiver General for Canada. The Receiver General ‘s accounts are a central repository for all sorts of fees paid to the Government of Canada. It is mostly there where the Treasury Board finds the funds it will disburse.

I would almost suggest that the revenue producing parts of CIC ( principally the skilled worker program) be spun off into what in Canada we call a “Crown Corporation”.

Wikipedia describes what a Crown Corporation is:

Crown corporations of Canada - Wikipedia

Essentially a crown corporation acts in some ways like a private company but is owned by the Canadian federal or a provincial government. They operate “at arms length” from the federal or provincial bureaucracy and make most of their own business judgements. Unlike federal departments they collect and allocate their own revenues. Were a crown corporation operating the federal skilled worker selection program you might see much more efficient and timely operations.

The visa application program operated by CIC happens in the context of a rather rigid, hierarchical bureaucracy. Also, since the 1960’s a strong objective of Canada’s immigration selection legislation has been to limit the discretion of visa officers in order to reduce subjectivity and restrict the ability of visa officers to make such subjective and racist decisions. Even in the case of visitor visa applications visa officers are expected to note up the reasons for their decisions in the GCMS electronic visa processing system. This takes time, sometimes a lot of it.

I should note that, due to technical and infrastructural limitations GCMS sometimes stops and does not work. (Perhaps it could work better if more resources were devoted to operating it but there aren’t such resources.) In a situation like that the visa officer has no alternative but to stop work and look helplessly at their computer screen.

When I became a visa officer in 1978 the immigration program was to a large extent beyond the Canadian public eye. There was little attention in the Canadian media to visa matters. The immigration bar (those lawyers who specialize in immigration matters) was small and not always very professional. Now things are very different. In particular litigation is now very common. A visa officer’s notes have to be adequate enough to withstand review by the Federal Court. A visa officer would want to think very carefully and take extra time with their notes, and never have them become a source of derision by the Canadian media. This type of publicity can easily destroy your career.

I have mentioned in another Answer that, in my opinion, there has been intense pressure to reduce the cost of Canada’s visa operations. One of the results is to take as much as the processing as possible and “dumb it down” so it can be done by lower-paid clerical staff in Canadian processing centres, not more experienced and better paid visa officers. One of the unintended results is a substantial number of processing errors. This increases processing time.

So many applicants do not understand that CIC does not have full control of the visa application process. CIC has to rely heavily on CSIS, the RCMP and CBSA for security and criminal clearances. These federal agencies have many other, more important priorities than visas.

Visa applicants do not always understand that immigration visas are subject to rationing by the annual immigration levels system. CIC has to allocate resources to each visa office according to the contribution that office is expected to make to the annual level. A given visa office is only expected, or allowed, to issue a certain number of immigration visas per year. They are not allowed to issue as many visas as they can. At times they must delay or stop processing certain categories of visas.

I have alluded in the Answer I mention above to problems in the working environment and career system for visa officers. Put yourself in a visa officer’s shoes. How productive would you be?

Martin Levine
 

thecoolguysam

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No 15jan2013 to 1nov 2018.
Second one is 1feb 2017to
present. And I provided 6months statement of salary account showing salary deposit. 3months recent payslips.
5years statement of EPFO.
Even a chaprasi of my office can calculate and tell you about my work duration.
In my brother's case they asked for RCMP clearance and due date to review was "23-jun-2019" but no one looked at the file. When a message was sent from call centre to ottawa, Ottawa office replied that the file is waiting for officer to be reviewed and there are no timelines.
 
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