Spouse TRV rejected, need help

[sahil820sharma]

I am a PR, and did soft landing in 2018. Now traveling to Canada in April.

We filed TRV for my wife showing that she is traveling with me for 2 weeks to help me find accommodation, and celebrate her birthday (which was during that 2 week period), but it was rejected and the below mentioned reasons were given:

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on your personal assets and financial status.

She has been working for approx 2 years, and we submitted the below mentioned docs:

1. Her last 1 year tax return, 3 salary slips, 6 month bank statements, letter from bank proving funds (16000 CAD in total). Her salary is in the range of 650-700 CAD per month (I guess this might be an issue).
2. Our marriage certificate.
3. No Objection letter from her employer, stating that she needs to come back after 2 weeks.
4. Invitation letter signed by me (I wrote my PR card number in the letter)
5. Return ticket, hotel booking, travel insurance.

I have ordered gcms notes, and we are planning to file for her trv again.

Please help guys. What extra should we do to increase her chances.

 

[Bryanna]

I am a PR, and did soft landing in 2018. Now traveling to Canada in April.

We filed TRV for my wife showing that she is traveling with me for 2 weeks to help me find accommodation, and celebrate her birthday (which was during that 2 week period), but it was rejected and the below mentioned reasons were given:

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on your personal assets and financial status.

She has been working for approx 2 years, and we submitted the below mentioned docs:

1. Her last 1 year tax return, 3 salary slips, 6 month bank statements, letter from bank proving funds (16000 CAD in total). Her salary is in the range of 650-700 CAD per month (I guess this might be an issue).
2. Our marriage certificate.
3. No Objection letter from her employer, stating that she needs to come back after 2 weeks.
4. Invitation letter signed by me (I wrote my PR card number in the letter)
5. Return ticket, hotel booking, travel insurance.

I have ordered gcms notes, and we are planning to file for her trv again.

Please help guys. What extra should we do to increase her chances.

Short advice:
Do not reapply. She will be refused again. You should start the spousal PR process after you move back to Canada.


Here's why:
1. She is married to a Canadian PR. It is assumed she will not return to her home country + you will apply for her PR by the inland route.

2. Her salary is too low to be a financial incentive for her to return to her home country

3. The funds in her bank account do not match her income. Probably was transferred/gifted by someone.

4. Return tickets don't assure visa approvals.

5. Based on her income, it does not seem like her work responsibilities are unique or they would necessitate her to return to her home country.

6. Not sure how much of a help she would be in helping you to find accommodation (Refusal for Purpose of visit)

 

[Elbagurl]

I agree, apply next year. Chances are she will be refused again because you haven't applied yet for her outside Canada sponsorship application.

 

[unlucky_chaser]

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I suspect it's much easier to sponsor her for PR after you move to Canada.

What is your desired plan in general? When would you have her join you permanently in Canada?

Of course, ask the experts.

 

[scylla]

I am a PR, and did soft landing in 2018. Now traveling to Canada in April.

We filed TRV for my wife showing that she is traveling with me for 2 weeks to help me find accommodation, and celebrate her birthday (which was during that 2 week period), but it was rejected and the below mentioned reasons were given:

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on your personal assets and financial status.

She has been working for approx 2 years, and we submitted the below mentioned docs:

1. Her last 1 year tax return, 3 salary slips, 6 month bank statements, letter from bank proving funds (16000 CAD in total). Her salary is in the range of 650-700 CAD per month (I guess this might be an issue).
2. Our marriage certificate.
3. No Objection letter from her employer, stating that she needs to come back after 2 weeks.
4. Invitation letter signed by me (I wrote my PR card number in the letter)
5. Return ticket, hotel booking, travel insurance.

I have ordered gcms notes, and we are planning to file for her trv again.

Please help guys. What extra should we do to increase her chances.

What Bryanna said. No point applying again - you'll just end up with a second refusal. Focus on sponsoring her for PR instead.

 

[sahil820sharma]

Thanks for such a detailed response.

My plan was inland sponsorship only. Second preference is outland, and with tourist visa she can visit me for a substantial amount of time so that we don't have to be away for long.

What if I start outland sponsorship and then file TRV in dual intent?

Also, during outland process, for how much time can I visit her in India?

Short advice:
Do not reapply. She will be refused again. You should start the spousal PR process after you move back to Canada.


Here's why:
1. She is married to a Canadian PR. It is assumed she will not return to her home country + you will apply for her PR by the inland route.

2. Her salary is too low to be a financial incentive for her to return to her home country

3. The funds in her bank account do not match her income. Probably was transferred/gifted by someone.

4. Return tickets don't assure visa approvals.

5. Based on her income, it does not seem like her work responsibilities are unique or they would necessitate her to return to her home country.

6. Not sure how much of a help she would be in helping you to find accommodation (Refusal for Purpose of visit)[/Q

 

[canuck78]

Thanks for such a detailed response.

My plan was inland sponsorship only. Second preference is outland, and with tourist visa she can visit me for a substantial amount of time so that we don't have to be away for long.

What if I start outland sponsorship and then file TRV in dual intent?

Also, during outland process, for how much time can I visit her in India?

Unfortunately you are likely going to be limited to outland and your wife is unlikely to get a TRV even after application. You are not supposed to leave Canada during the inland sponsorship process but a short visit of 2-3 weeks seems to be tolerated. Things like pregnancy will not speed up your application if that is something you are considering.

 

[Bryanna]

Thanks for such a detailed response.

My plan was inland sponsorship only. Second preference is outland, and with tourist visa she can visit me for a substantial amount of time so that we don't have to be away for long.

What if I start outland sponsorship and then file TRV in dual intent?

Also, during outland process, for how much time can I visit her in India?

With her profile, it is extremely unlikely that she will be granted a TRV.

Also, the visa officer would be aware that she wants to circumvent the processing times by avoiding waiting it out in India while her PR app is being processed.

IMO, there's no alternative to filing an outland PR application by accepting the fact that she won't be able to get a TRV

 

[sahil820sharma]

Thank you so much guys for your detailed answers.

I am in Canada since April 1, and working since day 1. I am planning to do outland sponsorship for my wife, who's in India.

My question is: It's been only 26 days I'm in Canada permanently, I hope this is not too early to start the sponsorship?

Also, as you can see in my original post, I did soft landing in Jan 2018 (last year) for 4 days, I haven't filled in my Tax return for Canada, so I don't have a NOA. what explanation should I write for this?

@Bryanna @canuck78 @scylla @Elbagurl

 

[canuck78]

Thank you so much guys for your detailed answers.

I am in Canada since April 1, and working since day 1. I am planning to do outland sponsorship for my wife, who's in India.

My question is: It's been only 26 days I'm in Canada permanently, I hope this is not too early to start the sponsorship?

Also, as you can see in my original post, I did soft landing in Jan 2018 (last year) for 4 days, I haven't filled in my Tax return for Canada, so I don't have a NOA. what explanation should I write for this?

@Bryanna @canuck78 @scylla @Elbagurl

Yes you can submit your sponsorship now. There are no financial requirements you just have to show you can support yourselves without any help. You are supposed to remain in Canada during the process but as I previously said a 2-3 week trip seems to be tolerated. Longer visits could lead to your sponsorship being refused.

You don’t need to fill out taxes for 2018. You don’t need NOA for the sponsorship.

 

[sahil820sharma]

Yes you can submit your sponsorship now. There are no financial requirements you just have to show you can support yourselves without any help. You are supposed to remain in Canada during the process but as I previously said a 2-3 week trip seems to be tolerated. Longer visits could lead to your sponsorship being refused.

You don’t need to fill out taxes for 2018. You don’t need NOA for the sponsorship.

Thanks for the reply. I'm planning to file the sponsorship in second week of May. I guess I can travel to India for a week before that? Will that cause any negative impact?

 

[scylla]

Thanks for the reply. I'm planning to file the sponsorship in second week of May. I guess I can travel to India for a week before that? Will that cause any negative impact?

Yes - you can do that. No negative impact.

 

[sahil820sharma]

Yes - you can do that. No negative impact.

Thank you

 

[canuck78]

Thanks for the reply. I'm planning to file the sponsorship in second week of May. I guess I can travel to India for a week before that? Will that cause any negative impact?

Not sure your employer will let you take vacation so early.

 

[S.sondus]

Hello everyone , am sorry for writing herer as am new to this forum , am note sure how to write a new thread , I need help please , basically I applied for a vistor visa as my husband is Canadian , and I got a refusal stating these reasons :

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence.

• Your husband should submit a sponsorship application for you.

So now we are planning to apply for the sponsorship first then re-apply for the visitor visa again but as for the first 2 reasons , am just wondering how respond to them knowing that Im working a part time job and am the only one living with my parents.

Thank you so much for your help in advance.