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What does "Required to File Tax" refer to?

chameleonimmigrant

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In the application form, there is a checkbox to indicate if it was required to file taxes for the given year. What is there a checkbox like that? Isn't it required to file taxes? Are we supposed to just check "Yes"? When would anyone check "No"? The stipulation is to file taxes for 3 tax years, so why is "No" even an option?
 

JPBless

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In the application form, there is a checkbox to indicate if it was required to file taxes for the given year. What is there a checkbox like that? Isn't it required to file taxes? Are we supposed to just check "Yes"? When would anyone check "No"? The stipulation is to file taxes for 3 tax years, so why is "No" even an option?
Have a look at https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/tax/individuals/topics/about-your-tax-return/you-have-file-a-return.html
 

cursor18

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In the application form, there is a checkbox to indicate if it was required to file taxes for the given year. What is there a checkbox like that? Isn't it required to file taxes? Are we supposed to just check "Yes"? When would anyone check "No"? The stipulation is to file taxes for 3 tax years, so why is "No" even an option?
Its for a 5 year period, so one or two years may have NO. and 3 years need to have YES
eg 2014, 2015 is NO
2016,2017,2018 is YES for an applicant applying in 2019 who landed in 2016
 

chameleonimmigrant

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Its for a 5 year period, so one or two years may have NO. and 3 years need to have YES
eg 2014, 2015 is NO
2016,2017,2018 is YES for an applicant applying in 2019 who landed in 2016
Ok, so I filed taxes in 2014, then that summer I left the country and came back to Canada in 2016. So obviously there is nothing to file for 2015, as I did not have any Canadian income and I was not a resident of Canada.

So, is my chart (Year / Required to File (Yes/No) / Taxes Files (Yes/No) going to be the following:
2014 - NO - YES
2015 - NO - NO
2016 - YES - YES
2017 - YES - YES
2018 - YES - YES

Could you confirm the chart for 2014?
 

cursor18

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May 31, 2015
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Ok, so I filed taxes in 2014, then that summer I left the country and came back to Canada in 2016. So obviously there is nothing to file for 2015, as I did not have any Canadian income and I was not a resident of Canada.

So, is my chart (Year / Required to File (Yes/No) / Taxes Files (Yes/No) going to be the following:
2014 - NO - YES
2015 - NO - NO
2016 - YES - YES
2017 - YES - YES
2018 - YES - YES

Could you confirm the chart for 2014?
i think its should be 2014 - yes - yes
 

cursor18

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But you mentioned 2014 as no above... I am confused...
Its a case by case scenario

If an applicant lands in 2016 and applies for Czship in 2019. They will have:
2014, No, No
2015, No, No
2016, Yes, Yes
2017, Yes, Yes
2018, Yes, Yes

But for your case (as you landed in 2014, but were away in 2015) it will be
2014, Yes, Yes
2015, No, No
2016, Yes, Yes
2017, Yes, Yes
2018, Yes, Yes
 

chameleonimmigrant

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Mar 24, 2019
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Its a case by case scenario

If an applicant lands in 2016 and applies for Czship in 2019. They will have:
2014, No, No
2015, No, No
2016, Yes, Yes
2017, Yes, Yes
2018, Yes, Yes

But for your case (as you landed in 2014, but were away in 2015) it will be
2014, Yes, Yes
2015, No, No
2016, Yes, Yes
2017, Yes, Yes
2018, Yes, Yes
I actually became a PR in 2016. I was a temporary resident in 2014. Does that change anything?
 

chameleonimmigrant

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cursor18

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I just did. It does not have any more info. It just has the exact wording as the application form itself...
  1. Complete the chart and tell us which years you were required to file your taxes and which years you actually filed.
this still applies to u
2014, Yes, Yes
2015, No, No
2016, Yes, Yes
2017, Yes, Yes
2018, Yes, Yes
 

dpenabill

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In the current citizenship application there are two questions posed for each of the preceding five tax years (which for most of us correspond to calendar years):
-- Required to File?
-- File?​

The latter is a simple question of fact which the applicant knows: did the applicant file a Canadian tax return for that year. Yes or No.

The "Required to File" question is a little more complicated because it involves a judgment, a decision which involves the applicant interpreting Canada Revenue Agency rules governing who must file a Canadian tax return and applying those rules to the applicant's personal facts. Thus, to be clear, an accurate response, yes or no, depends on CRA rules applied to the individual's personal circumstances.

I have wandered into the weeds about the latter in another topic. No need to revisit that. GENERALLY, it is SAFE to conclude and respond "YES" required to file for any year in which the PR did file, AND GENERALLY it is prudent to file a return for any year in which the PR was a resident of Canada EVEN IF the rules technically do not require a return be filed.

Thus, for most PRs, for years they were residing in Canada before becoming a PR as well as after, the PR can appropriately respond "Yes/Yes" (as long as it is true a return was filed).

NOTE: It is NOT necessary, however, to have filed a tax return to meet the requirement to have complied with CRA tax filing rules at least three of the preceding five years. The requirement is to comply with CRA rules governing who must file for at least three years. There is no citizenship requirement to have filed a tax return.

Thus, for example, years truthfully checked "No/No" (not required to file and did not file), count toward the three required years.

And thus the requirement can be met, for example, if the applicant (truthfully) enters the following:
2014 - "No/No"
2015 - "No/No"
2016 - "No/No"
2017 - "Yes/No"
2018 - "Yes/No"​

The failure to comply with CRA requirements the last two years might make a bad impression and invite a total stranger bureaucrat to have questions about why, and thus make further inquiries, BUT the tax filing compliance requirement is met because there are three years, 2014 to 2016, in which the applicant complies with the CRA rules for who must file.

(That is, an applicant can meet the requirement notwithstanding one or two years for which the response is "Yes/No" but most applicants will prefer to avoid having any years showing non-compliance with the tax filing obligations.)

By the way, this scenario:
2014 - "No/No"
2015 - "No/No"
2016 - "No/No"
2017 - "Yes/No"
2018 - "Yes/No"​
could easily be the scenario for someone who first came to Canada in late 2015 and was a student supported by parents during 2016, as long as the student did not have any Canadian source income in 2016. Again, this meets the tax filing compliance requirement.

Thus:
Its for a 5 year period, so one or two years may have NO. and 3 years need to have YES
Not exactly.

Again, the requirement is based on complying with CRA rules. To qualify for citizenship it is NOT necessary to have filed a Canadian tax return.

In this regard, just being a resident in Canada does NOT, not alone, mean an individual is required to file a return. Generally there are benefits for filing a return even if not required to do so, so most Canadian residents do file a return even if not legally required to do so. But, for example, a stay-at-home spouse with no personal income can decide to not file a return and will meet the citizenship requirement even if responding "No/No" for all five years. That would likely be foolish, since the income earning spouse would likely have credits and deductions depending on the stay-at-home spouse also filing a return, but there is NO legal obligation requiring the filing of a return, and if not required to file that counts as a year toward the three complied-with-filing-rules requirement for citizenship.

And, it warrants noting, because it would so likely be foolish, even though this meets the tax filing compliance requirement it might otherwise cause a processing agent to elevate scrutiny of the applicant's case, which could lead to non-routine processing and a longer timeline.
 

PurelyCanadian

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@dpenabill and other senior members

My application was sent on 3rd March 20019 and received on 06-03-2019 (dd-mm-yyyy).

Mine is family application and I have filed taxes for me and my wife for 2014,2015,2016,2017 and we were required to file and filed regularly.
But for 2018, mine RRSP slip from employer was not received so I could not file the return until a week later. And as a general rule, I and my wife goes to our Chartered Accountant office together so her tax return was also pending and we both filed the tax return a week later after application was received. Please note that, currently tax returns has already been filed.

So for me and my wife its like

Year - Required to file - Filed
2014 - Y - Y
2015 - Y - Y
2016 - Y - Y
2017 - Y - Y
2018 - Y - N

do you think that it would okay ?

Please advise. Its increasing my anxiety now...
 
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