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What does "Required to File Tax" refer to?

dpenabill

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My application was sent on 3rd March 20019 and received on 06-03-2019 (dd-mm-yyyy).

Mine is family application and I have filed taxes for me and my wife for 2014,2015,2016,2017 and we were required to file and filed regularly.
But for 2018, mine RRSP slip from employer was not received so I could not file the return until a week later. And as a general rule, I and my wife goes to our Chartered Accountant office together so her tax return was also pending and we both filed the tax return a week later after application was received. Please note that, currently tax returns has already been filed.

So for me and my wife its like

Year - Required to file - Filed
2014 - Y - Y
2015 - Y - Y
2016 - Y - Y
2017 - Y - Y
2018 - Y - N

do you think that it would okay ?

Please advise. Its increasing my anxiety now...
I am NO expert and NOT qualified to give personal advice; so I do not offer personal advice.

In general terms:

Technically there is NO requirement to file before April 30 (or later, such as by June 15 for many, such as those self-employed). So for applications made so far in 2018, and prior to actually filing a return, there is no problem responding "No/No" for tax year 2018. Last I looked the IRCC information online also states this (albeit worded somewhat differently).

If the applicant has nonetheless already filed for 2018, it is OK to answer "Yes/Yes" (or even "No/Yes").

A "Yes/Yes" for three of the previous five years meets the requirements anyway.

So it is NOT clear why you have anxiety now.

NOTE: IRCC does NOT engage in gotcha-games. These are not trick questions. Yes, the applicant's information must (1) be sufficiently complete to meet IRCC requirements for making a proper application, and (2) certain details must meet the specific requirements (PR at least two years, physical presence credit for at least 1095 days in five years, language ability proof if applicable, compliance with CRA tax filing obligations for at least three of five years), but beyond that the applicant's answers are informational. Mistakes are expected and common. Imprecise answers are common. IRCC is NOT looking for technicalities to justify denying applications.

The vast majority of qualified applicants who made a reasonably diligent effort to completely, honestly, and appropriately provide the information requested SHOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM . . . other than perhaps being stuck in a long timeline which appears to be affecting many applicants now. NO NEED TO WORRY. Relax. Wait, wait and watch for communications from IRCC, and respond appropriately.
 

PurelyCanadian

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I am NO expert and NOT qualified to give personal advice; so I do not offer personal advice.

In general terms:

Technically there is NO requirement to file before April 30 (or later, such as by June 15 for many, such as those self-employed). So for applications made so far in 2018, and prior to actually filing a return, there is no problem responding "No/No" for tax year 2018. Last I looked the IRCC information online also states this (albeit worded somewhat differently).

If the applicant has nonetheless already filed for 2018, it is OK to answer "Yes/Yes" (or even "No/Yes").

A "Yes/Yes" for three of the previous five years meets the requirements anyway.

So it is NOT clear why you have anxiety now.

NOTE: IRCC does NOT engage in gotcha-games. These are not trick questions. Yes, the applicant's information must (1) be sufficiently complete to meet IRCC requirements for making a proper application, and (2) certain details must meet the specific requirements (PR at least two years, physical presence credit for at least 1095 days in five years, language ability proof if applicable, compliance with CRA tax filing obligations for at least three of five years), but beyond that the applicant's answers are informational. Mistakes are expected and common. Imprecise answers are common. IRCC is NOT looking for technicalities to justify denying applications.

The vast majority of qualified applicants who made a reasonably diligent effort to completely, honestly, and appropriately provide the information requested SHOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM . . . other than perhaps being stuck in a long timeline which appears to be affecting many applicants now. NO NEED TO WORRY. Relax. Wait, wait and watch for communications from IRCC, and respond appropriately.
@dpenabill - I thank you for your time and explanation you provided.
Regarding my physical presence - I have no issues as I DON'T travel much. I travelled once in these many years for few days. (My physical presence is well above 1600+)
Regarding Language ability - I DON'T have any issues either and neither with CRA tax filing obligations.

I was anxious because, I was not aware that requirement is for 3 out of 5 years.

Now relaxed. Thank you once again
 
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In the current citizenship application there are two questions posed for each of the preceding five tax years (which for most of us correspond to calendar years):
-- Required to File?
-- File?​

The latter is a simple question of fact which the applicant knows: did the applicant file a Canadian tax return for that year. Yes or No.

The "Required to File" question is a little more complicated because it involves a judgment, a decision which involves the applicant interpreting Canada Revenue Agency rules governing who must file a Canadian tax return and applying those rules to the applicant's personal facts. Thus, to be clear, an accurate response, yes or no, depends on CRA rules applied to the individual's personal circumstances.

I have wandered into the weeds about the latter in another topic. No need to revisit that. GENERALLY, it is SAFE to conclude and respond "YES" required to file for any year in which the PR did file, AND GENERALLY it is prudent to file a return for any year in which the PR was a resident of Canada EVEN IF the rules technically do not require a return be filed.

Thus, for most PRs, for years they were residing in Canada before becoming a PR as well as after, the PR can appropriately respond "Yes/Yes" (as long as it is true a return was filed).

NOTE: It is NOT necessary, however, to have filed a tax return to meet the requirement to have complied with CRA tax filing rules at least three of the preceding five years. The requirement is to comply with CRA rules governing who must file for at least three years. There is no citizenship requirement to have filed a tax return.

Thus, for example, years truthfully checked "No/No" (not required to file and did not file), count toward the three required years.

And thus the requirement can be met, for example, if the applicant (truthfully) enters the following:
2014 - "No/No"
2015 - "No/No"
2016 - "No/No"
2017 - "Yes/No"
2018 - "Yes/No"​

The failure to comply with CRA requirements the last two years might make a bad impression and invite a total stranger bureaucrat to have questions about why, and thus make further inquiries, BUT the tax filing compliance requirement is met because there are three years, 2014 to 2016, in which the applicant complies with the CRA rules for who must file.

(That is, an applicant can meet the requirement notwithstanding one or two years for which the response is "Yes/No" but most applicants will prefer to avoid having any years showing non-compliance with the tax filing obligations.)

By the way, this scenario:
2014 - "No/No"
2015 - "No/No"
2016 - "No/No"
2017 - "Yes/No"
2018 - "Yes/No"​
could easily be the scenario for someone who first came to Canada in late 2015 and was a student supported by parents during 2016, as long as the student did not have any Canadian source income in 2016. Again, this meets the tax filing compliance requirement.

Thus:


Not exactly.

Again, the requirement is based on complying with CRA rules. To qualify for citizenship it is NOT necessary to have filed a Canadian tax return.

In this regard, just being a resident in Canada does NOT, not alone, mean an individual is required to file a return. Generally there are benefits for filing a return even if not required to do so, so most Canadian residents do file a return even if not legally required to do so. But, for example, a stay-at-home spouse with no personal income can decide to not file a return and will meet the citizenship requirement even if responding "No/No" for all five years. That would likely be foolish, since the income earning spouse would likely have credits and deductions depending on the stay-at-home spouse also filing a return, but there is NO legal obligation requiring the filing of a return, and if not required to file that counts as a year toward the three complied-with-filing-rules requirement for citizenship.

And, it warrants noting, because it would so likely be foolish, even though this meets the tax filing compliance requirement it might otherwise cause a processing agent to elevate scrutiny of the applicant's case, which could lead to non-routine processing and a longer timeline.
Hi @dpenabill,

Great response!

I have a little confusing situation here. We, family of 4 (2 Adults, 2 kids below 5) landed on 28 Nov 2015 and went back after 4 days. We returned on 27 April 2016 and continued staying in Canada.

We have filed tax for years 2016, 2017 & 2018 but not for 2015 as we just stayed 4 days in that year.

Now as we are applying for citizenship, I have few questions:

1) Should we write for Tax file part as below or anything else?

2015: No No
2016: Yes Yes
2017: Yes Yes
2018: Yes Yes

2) As we consider 4 years from date of landing 28 Nov 2015, we do not need to submit Police Clearance certificates from previous country. But, if I consider we are resident from 27 April 2016, it will be less than 4 years, as I understand in such case, we would require to submit police clearance certificate and extra security clearance. What should be mentioned start of my eligibility period?

Would much appreciate your guidance!
 

dpenabill

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I am NOT an expert. I am NOT qualified to offer personal advice.

I have a little confusing situation here. We, family of 4 (2 Adults, 2 kids below 5) landed on 28 Nov 2015 and went back after 4 days. We returned on 27 April 2016 and continued staying in Canada.

We have filed tax for years 2016, 2017 & 2018 but not for 2015 as we just stayed 4 days in that year.

Now as we are applying for citizenship, I have few questions:

1) Should we write for Tax file part as below or anything else?

2015: No No
2016: Yes Yes
2017: Yes Yes
2018: Yes Yes

2) As we consider 4 years from date of landing 28 Nov 2015, we do not need to submit Police Clearance certificates from previous country. But, if I consider we are resident from 27 April 2016, it will be less than 4 years, as I understand in such case, we would require to submit police clearance certificate and extra security clearance. What should be mentioned start of my eligibility period?
I can offer the following information:

Eligibility period is fixed by the date the application is made. It is the five year period ending that day. For an application today, December 27, 2019, the eligibility period is December 27, 2014 to December 26, 2019. Answer all questions regarding the eligibility period accordingly.

For purposes of item 10.b. regarding applicants who were in another country for six months or more, continuously, during the FOUR years prior to applying, that is exactly that: the four year period ending the day the application is made. For an application today, December 27, 2019, that period is December 27, 2015 to December 26, 2019. Answer all questions regarding item 10.b. accordingly.

Since you returned to the country you came from after landing, the date of landing is NOT relevant for purposes of any of the exceptions to providing a police certificate IF you were in another country for six months during the FOUR years prior to the date of your application.

For purposes of reporting tax filing information related to the requirement for complying with CRA filing obligations during 3 of the previous 5 tax years, those are calendar years (with perhaps some odd and unusual exceptions). For applications between now and December 31, that would be 2014, 2015, 2016 , 2017, 2018. For any year the PR actually did file taxes, Yes/Yes (required to file and filed) is a good answer, and three of these in those five tax years meets the requirement. However, any year in which the PR was not required to file taxes, under CRA rules, a No/No (not required and did not file) will also count toward the required three years of compliance.

For applications made after January 1, 2020 but too soon to have filed for the tax year 2019, the relevant tax years are still 2015, 2016 , 2017, 2018, 2019, and a No/No for 2019 should be OK and count as a year of compliance. That said, the prudent applicant will want to have filed taxes for at least 2016 , 2017, and 2018, so there are three Yes/Yes years.
 

Kohl

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This is what I did:

I called the CRA and asked them if I was required to file. I took down the CRA representative’ name and ID number.

I told the rep why I was asking, told him I was going to be sending his name and # in to the IRCC and would he please confirm that his opinion was the official opinion of the CRA.

After he confirmed that I was “required to file,” I included a cover letter with a sentence like this:

“Although I only had income in XXXX, John Doe (1234ONT) of the CRA has advised me that I was required to file for the purpose of XXXX and it is the opinion of this CRA agent that I should mark all years in this section as “Required to File.”

Something along those lines. Replacing the X’s with the info pertinent to your situation and the CRA agent’s actual name and number. Basically did all the due diligence I could to be truthful and accurate.


In the application form, there is a checkbox to indicate if it was required to file taxes for the given year. What is there a checkbox like that? Isn't it required to file taxes? Are we supposed to just check "Yes"? When would anyone check "No"? The stipulation is to file taxes for 3 tax years, so why is "No" even an option?
 
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This is what I did:

I called the CRA and asked them if I was required to file. I took down the CRA representative’ name and ID number.

I told the rep why I was asking, told him I was going to be sending his name and # in to the IRCC and would he please confirm that his opinion was the official opinion of the CRA.

After he confirmed that I was “required to file,” I included a cover letter with a sentence like this:

“Although I only had income in XXXX, John Doe (1234ONT) of the CRA has advised me that I was required to file for the purpose of XXXX and it is the opinion of this CRA agent that I should mark all years in this section as “Required to File.”

Something along those lines. Replacing the X’s with the info pertinent to your situation and the CRA agent’s actual name and number. Basically did all the due diligence I could to be truthful and accurate.
Thank you!