End goal is successful spousal sponsorship - need help

[crazyoldlady]

Hi,

I'm really at a loss at what to do and looking for any type of advice or support.

I (Canadian) met someone (Jordanian) on my trip in fall 2018 in Jordan and we want to be together for a long term serious relationship in the same country. I am not willing to move to Jordan at this point in my life and so the only option is for him to move to Canada. We have been video chatting at least once a day and recently twice a day since my return to Canada.

He had applied a visitor visa to Canada so that he could visit Canada and we can spend time together and possibly get married then apply for sponsorship but it got declined due not satisfied that he will leave Canada (due to his lack of travel history, based on family ties in Canada and Jordan, purpose of visit, financial status). We tried again, shortening the stay to 3 months with detailed travel plans but still denied.

Advice:
1) Any advice or suggestions are welcomed
2) We plan to possibly apply a 3rd time for a visitor visa and tell them about the relationship. I think it's a long shot. He (rather naively/romantically) thinks that they will not want to stop two ppl from being together and that we should try this angle.
3) Our other plan is to go overseas to get married then apply for sponsorship once I return to Canada, which also seems like quite a process with no guarantee. He then again wants us to apply for visitor visa since he feels they will not let two married ppl be separate. I think we should just focus on the sponsorship application only if we are at this step.

The doozy of the situation is the age gap between us is huge and unfortunately with society, it is I who is older than him, which tends not to be looked at favourably in most societies (except strangely his).

Thank you for any suggestions, advice or feedback on our ideas.

 

[kashifaziz]

I would strongly advise against it. Due to the following red flags it will be denied (and you'll get denial after making you wait a minimum of 6-8 months)
1. Having met only once
2. Age gap

If he is educated and if his english is good, Express Entry Federal Skill Worker program is far quicker and easier (I sponsored my wife 5 months before my sister applied for the Express entry program and my sister already received her approval which took her only 3.5 months, while my wife is still waiting despite the fact we've known each other, lived together in Qatar for 3 years - I married her after I moved to canada as a PR 15 months ago).

You could sponsor him but only after youve built a relationship history. Maybe live together for 6 months to a year in Jordan and get married and then move back to Canada and apply.

 

[canuck78]

What kind of age difference? Any other red flags like different religions, difference in education or financial status. Is he currently employed? No point in applying for another TRV unless you have omitted some major piece of information other than your relationship status. Would recommend more visits between you two before applying for sponsorship. How did you meet in Jordan and how long did you spend together?

 

[scylla]

Hi,

I'm really at a loss at what to do and looking for any type of advice or support.

I (Canadian) met someone (Jordanian) on my trip in fall 2018 in Jordan and we want to be together for a long term serious relationship in the same country. I am not willing to move to Jordan at this point in my life and so the only option is for him to move to Canada. We have been video chatting at least once a day and recently twice a day since my return to Canada.

He had applied a visitor visa to Canada so that he could visit Canada and we can spend time together and possibly get married then apply for sponsorship but it got declined due not satisfied that he will leave Canada (due to his lack of travel history, based on family ties in Canada and Jordan, purpose of visit, financial status). We tried again, shortening the stay to 3 months with detailed travel plans but still denied.

Advice:
1) Any advice or suggestions are welcomed
2) We plan to possibly apply a 3rd time for a visitor visa and tell them about the relationship. I think it's a long shot. He (rather naively/romantically) thinks that they will not want to stop two ppl from being together and that we should try this angle.
3) Our other plan is to go overseas to get married then apply for sponsorship once I return to Canada, which also seems like quite a process with no guarantee. He then again wants us to apply for visitor visa since he feels they will not let two married ppl be separate. I think we should just focus on the sponsorship application only if we are at this step.

The doozy of the situation is the age gap between us is huge and unfortunately with society, it is I who is older than him, which tends not to be looked at favourably in most societies (except strangely his).

Thank you for any suggestions, advice or feedback on our ideas.

Do not apply for another TRV. He's guaranteed to be refused and multiple refusals can complicate a sponsorship application by making it seem like the applicant is desperate to come to Canada. Two refusals is OK - three is starting to look bad and risk having a negative impact later.

Given the age gap and fast progression of your relationship, it's strongly recommended that you visit him at least one more time before making the trip to get married. As with the TRV refusals, getting married too quickly can make it seem like the applicant is entering into a marriage of convenience with the primary goal being to establish himself in Canada. (To be clear, it's not your motives that will be in question - it will be his.)

If you get married and then sponsor him for PR, the chances of a TRV being refused will actually increase since IRCC will know for certain that he has plans to remain in Canada long term. You should focus on the spousal sponsorship application and forget entirely about the TRV. He'll need to wait until PR has been approved before he'll be able to come to Canada.

 

[crazyoldlady]

Thanks for your feedback. The points you made are also my concerns as well. Was hoping for something more positive but I guess reality is reality.