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SithLord

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Aug 18, 2017
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Guys, my timeline has crossed 80 days since AOR. Is it safe for me to assume that I will get the PPR? From immitracker, I haven't found anyone yet rejected after 80 days. The closest I saw was 72 days

This is the only thing bothering me now, I want to get a closure on this so I can move on with my life and not worry about when I get the PPR. I'm happy as long as I get it.
 

zabrodov

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Sep 19, 2018
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Gatineau
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Montreal
NOC Code......
4163
App. Filed.......
11-11-2018
AOR Received.
11-11-2018
File Transfer...
24-01-2019
Passport Req..
02-08-2019
LANDED..........
02-09-2019
Guys, my timeline has crossed 80 days since AOR. Is it safe for me to assume that I will get the PPR? From immitracker, I haven't found anyone yet rejected after 80 days. The closest I saw was 72 days
You can't assume it, unless you know that your eligibility is met. There are cases of rejections after 90 days and even after 120 days.
This is an example of rejection after 215 days due to the exchange rate in proof of funds:
https://myimmitracker.com/ca/trackers/consolidated-e-apr-tracker-express-entry-permanent-residency-application/cases/case-46481
 

mpn0182

Full Member
Jan 10, 2019
44
17
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
New Delhi
Job Offer........
Yes
Nomination.....
18-10-2018
Med's Done....
21-12-2018
My apologies for the long read below, information is collected from CIC webpage for the PNP applicants -

Processing Provincial Nominee Program (PNP) applications: Putting the application into process

Once an application for the Provincial Nominee Program (PNP) has been assessed as complete under R10, the application is put into process.

For all PNP applications, the processing office is responsible for:

  • assessing if the applicant meets the requirements for membership in the Provincial Nominee (PN) class; and,
  • assessing if the applicant is admissible to Canada
For PNP applications submitted through Express Entry, the processing office is also responsible for:

  • assessing if the applicant meets the Express Entry minimum entry criteria (i.e., that the applicant meets the program requirements of the Federal Skilled Worker Program, the Federal Skilled Trades Program, or the Canadian Experience Class); and,
  • assessing if the applicant meets the requirements under A11.2.
The processing office should carry out normal security screening procedures once the application is put into process. The office should also issue medical instructions to applicants whose applications are not through Express Entry. (Express Entry applicants submit proof of having undergone a medical examination as part of their complete application, so they will have already completed this requirement.)

For detailed information about determining admissibility, see ENF 2 / OP 18 – Evaluating Inadmissibility.

Section 11.2 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) includes a new authority that supports the Express Entry system.

Under section A11.2, an officer may not issue a visa to an applicant who did not or does not meet the Express Entry minimum entry criteria (MEC) or did not or does not possess the qualifications for which they received their CRS score at the time when

  • the invitation to apply (ITA) was issued; or
  • the e-APR was received by IRCC.
When reviewing an application, processing offices must determine if

  • the applicant possesses the qualifications that they declared in their e-APR, as corroborated by the applicant’s supporting documentation; and
  • when the applicant submits their e-APR, the information provided in their Express Entry profile has not materially changed to the degree that the applicant would not have been issued an ITA in that round of invitations.
Accordingly, officers should refuse an application under section A11.2 if it is determined that

Note: At time of APR, PNP Express Entry applicants must demonstrate they meet the PNP program requirements and, for A11.2 assessment, that they meet the program requirements of one federal immigration program (FSWP or CEC or FSTP).

Processing offices must enter a decision on section A11.2 in the Global Case Management System (GCMS) before an application can be finalized. All applications must be processed in the Express Entry eligibility screen.

See below for instructions on how to assess a change in circumstance that is declared after an e-APR has been submitted.

When an application is refused under section A11.2, the officer should also assess if the application can be refused for failing to meet federal program requirements. When applications are refused, all applicable grounds should be invoked. Officers should also consider a finding of misrepresentation, where applicable.

Templates for refusal letters for the federal skilled worker class (FSWC), the federal skilled trades class (FSTC), the Canadian experience class (CEC), and the provincial nominee class (PNC) include options for refusal under section A11.2, for failing to meet program requirements, or both.

Evaluating PNC applicants under section A11.2
As per section A11.2, PNC applications that come through Express Entry must also meet the requirements of one of the three immigration programs managed through Express Entry (FSWC, FSTC, or CEC).

A candidate may appear to meet the program requirements of more than one federal immigration program. When this occurs, the processing office must only determine that the applicant meets the requirements for one of the federal programs for which they have been tagged. Once the applicant is determined to have met the requirements for one of the federal immigration programs, there is no need for further assessment of the others.

Processing offices should assess PNC applicants for federal programs in the following order:

  • CEC
  • FSWC
  • FSTC
Should the applicant fail to meet the requirements of the first program considered, the processing office should consider the other programs in which the applicant has been tagged until either the applicant meets the requirements of one program or all possible programs in which the applicant has been tagged have been considered.

If it is determined that the applicant does not meet any of the tagged federal immigration programs, the application should be refused under section A11.2. Misrepresentation should also be considered, where applicable.

Hope it helps !!


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mpn0182

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Jan 10, 2019
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Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
New Delhi
Job Offer........
Yes
Nomination.....
18-10-2018
Med's Done....
21-12-2018
Another read from CIC for PNP refusal -

Refusing the application
A provincial nominee who meets all statutory admissibility requirements can be refused a visa when the officer has reason to believe that one or more of the following applies

  • the applicant does not intend to live in the province that has nominated them
  • the applicant is unlikely to be able to successfully establish economically in Canada
  • the applicant is participating in, or intends to participate in, a passive investment or an immigration-linked investment scheme as defined in subsections R87(5) to R87(9) of the Regulations
  • the applicant has failed to meet the requirements of A11.2 (in the case of applications submitted through Express Entry).
The Federal-Provincial/Territorial agreements include provisions on consulting nominating provinces and territories before refusal of PNP cases. They outline the consultations required for refusals, as well as the timeframe within which the province or territory has the opportunity to respond before the final refusal decision is made.

All refused applicants must be provided with a formal refusal letter.

Note: In any case where a refusal is based on the lack of (or withdrawal of) a provincial nomination certificate, the legal reference should be to R87(2). Refusal letters addressed to provincial nominees should not cite Immigration and Refugee Protection Act A20(2). This subsection of the Act is specific to Quebec cases only.
 

baxa1981

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May 29, 2012
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I got GCMS notes, was too impatient. Passed medical and RCMP screening, that's all. Criminality is in progress, the rest are "not started".
VO is Winnipeg IRCC. Apparently, they do RCMP screening in batch.
 
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cvish92

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May 30, 2018
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I got GCMS notes, was too impatient. Passed medical and RCMP screening, that's all. Criminality is in progress, the rest are "not started".
VO is Winnipeg IRCC. Apparently, they do RCMP screening in batch.
I did have a quick question about the GCMS notes though. Can you let us know when you requested and when the GCMS notes were actually generated ?
 

smash1984

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Oct 7, 2018
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Guys, my timeline has crossed 80 days since AOR. Is it safe for me to assume that I will get the PPR? From immitracker, I haven't found anyone yet rejected after 80 days. The closest I saw was 72 days

This is the only thing bothering me now, I want to get a closure on this so I can move on with my life and not worry about when I get the PPR. I'm happy as long as I get it.
I wish I could say there is a magic number, but unfortunately, there isn't
 

smash1984

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Oct 7, 2018
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I got GCMS notes, was too impatient. Passed medical and RCMP screening, that's all. Criminality is in progress, the rest are "not started".
VO is Winnipeg IRCC. Apparently, they do RCMP screening in batch.
I am also very impatient. Was about to order GCMS notes last week but held my horses. I plan to order them on the 7th of Feb. Hopefully something substantial will have been done on my profile then.