Survival jobs

[mahi2020]

Actually, I didn't know before I come. I would have chosen another destination. And why no one knows about survival jobs? I thought people who have done them can share what they have done to see if I would like doing that.

It's good to see someppl who didnt know before coming here.
Else there are wizards, present in this forum, (few replying in this thread) who can predict future sitting in their comfy homes in their native country or while hunting Polar bears in Antartica or Penguins in Arctic. (Nostradamus of present Canada)

Meanwhile make this your starting point:
http://accesemployment.ca/

They provide free training and help in all sorts of survival jobs like ware-house packaging, customer care entry level etc.

 

[russ6970]

It still baffles me that someone is willing to up sticks and move half way around the world without doing even the tiniest bit of research. Pity there isn't anything out there that could enable this research......

 

[foodie69]

It's good to see someppl who didnt know before coming here.
Else there are wizards, present in this forum, (few replying in this thread) who can predict future sitting in their comfy homes in their native country or while hunting Polar bears in Antartica or Penguins in Arctic. (Nostradamus of present Canada)

They provide free training and help in all sorts of survival jobs like ware-house packaging, customer care entry level etc.

Has nothing to do with wizardry..Ever heard of the internet? Google? Research? Anyone can do it, if they WANT. Laziness is not a good enough excuse anymore.

 

[CaBeaver]

It's good to see someppl who didnt know before coming here.
Else there are wizards, present in this forum, (few replying in this thread) who can predict future sitting in their comfy homes in their native country or while hunting Polar bears in Antartica or Penguins in Arctic. (Nostradamus of present Canada)

Meanwhile make this your starting point:
http://accesemployment.ca/

They provide free training and help in all sorts of survival jobs like ware-house packaging, customer care entry level etc.

Those wizards, with the time they spend making judgments, they could have replied something helpful like answering the question, but they prefer not to because obviously everything is already answered to those who are looking, and there is no need for anyone to answer anything to anyone. I wonder why these forums exist, then. It baffles me.

Anyway, the link you provided seem to have offices in Ontario only. I don't live in Ontario, and I haven't worked before in any survival job. It's something I wasn't mentally prepared to do, and I am still calculating whether I should do it or leave (some may call this laziness, but it is actually not). I searched for example for data entry and warehouse workers (what I know and think I can do), however, I notice all of them require bilingualism because I am based in Montreal (wait until someone makes a remark why I live in Montreal without making any helpful suggestion ).

I am basically not good with people. So, I prefer something where I won't have to work with customers directly. I am physically fit, but I cannot lift very heavy items (>15 Kg), as I have some back problems. Obviously, English is my preferred language. I am good with computers and mathematics, but not sure if this would help much in these jobs.

PS: If you don't have something helpful, find another thread were your posts are appreciated.

 

[Jakev]

Those wizards, with the time they spend making judgments, they could have replied something helpful like answering the question, but they prefer not to because obviously everything is already answered to those who are looking, and there is no need for anyone to answer anything to anyone. I wonder why these forums exist, then. It baffles me.

Anyway, the link you provided seem to have offices in Ontario only. I don't live in Ontario, and I haven't worked before in any survival job. It's something I wasn't mentally prepared to do, and I am still calculating whether I should do it or leave. I searched for example for data entry and warehouse workers (what I know and think I can do), however, I notice all of them require bilingualism because I am based in Montreal (wait until someone make a remark why I live in Montreal without making any helpful suggestion ).

I am basically not good with people. So, I prefer something where I won't work with customers directly. I am physically fit, but I cannot lift very heavy items (>15 Kg), as I have some back problems. Obviously, English is my preferred language.

PS: If you don't have something helpful, find another thread were your posts are appreciated.

Well-articulated ! There're a bunch of them like the aforesaid commentator who reckons they run IRCC, and even Canada- I had a tough time with these blokes yesterday for their ill-founded thoughts (like requesting wheelchair assistance when one doesn't even need it /a flight itinerary when the IRCC doesn't even request one etc..). These bigots are also hell jealous on nouveau immigrants making money as soon as they land, or even availing government assistance for higher learning. I can showcase several examples alluding to this condescending attitude of theirs- I reckon most are jobless and on government dime.

 

[CaBeaver]

Well-articulated ! There're a bunch of them like the aforesaid commentator who reckons they run IRCC, and even Canada- I had a tough time with these blokes yesterday for their ill-founded thoughts (like requesting wheelchair assistance when one doesn't even need it /a flight itinerary when the IRCC doesn't even request one etc..). These bigots are also hell jealous on nouveau immigrants making money as soon as they land, or even availing government assistance for higher learning. I can showcase several examples alluding to this condescending attitude of theirs- I reckon most are jobless and on government dime.

Some are not helpful at all. There are at least two posters commented here who are making unhelpful and judgmental remarks, and I notice at least one who does this all over the forums (no wonder). I am not even sure why they are here, and what they try to achieve.

 

[canuck78]

Would start by contacting the government job assistance offices. Unfortunately the fact you are not bilingual does limit your options for "survival" jobs because many involve interaction with other employees or the public. There is not much posted about your background. Are you limited to searching for jobs in Quebec? Have you done your licensing exams in Canada? Have you tried to reach out to people in your field on Linkendin?

 

[CaBeaver]

Would start by contacting the government job assistance offices. Unfortunately the fact you are not bilingual does limit your options for "survival" jobs because many involve interaction with other employees or the public. There is not much posted about your background. Are you limited to searching for jobs in Quebec? Have you done your licensing exams in Canada? Have you tried to reach out to people in your field on Linkendin?

I am applying everywhere in Canada. People on LinkedIn haven't been helpful (many didn't reply, and those who replied said general things like edit your resume and cover letter ... etc). I have a degree from Canada, so a foreign degree isn't an issue. However, I don't have industrial experience at all. I think that is my biggest obstacle. I am willing to start at the bottom anywhere, but no one is willing to give me the chance, it seems.

I registered once in an organization funded by the local government where they provided workshops and personal training on the resume, cover letter, and interview questions. Are these what you are talking about? They weren't very helpful, to be honest. Yes, I put my resume to the "Canadian" format ... etc, but didn't change much in the response rate for my applications.

 

[canuck78]

I am applying everywhere in Canada. People on LinkedIn haven't been helpful (many didn't reply, and those who replied said general things like edit your resume and cover letter ... etc). I have a degree from Canada, so a foreign degree isn't an issue. However, I don't have industrial experience at all. I think that is my biggest obstacle. I am willing to start at the bottom anywhere, but no one is willing to give me the chance, it seems.

Have you reached out to any old professors or your university for any help? I do know that the engineering market is saturated. Perhaps getting a job at an engineering firm to get your foot in the door? Have you looked at government jobs that may or may not require an engineering degree? Any potential internships?

 

[canuck78]

Have friends from your program gotten jobs? Could they tell you about any job openings or recommend you for any positions?

 

[heynow]

I am applying everywhere in Canada. People on LinkedIn haven't been helpful (many didn't reply, and those who replied said general things like edit your resume and cover letter ... etc). I have a degree from Canada, so a foreign degree isn't an issue. However, I don't have industrial experience at all. I think that is my biggest obstacle. I am willing to start at the bottom anywhere, but no one is willing to give me the chance, it seems.

I registered once in an organization funded by the local government where they provided workshops and personal training on the resume, cover letter, and interview questions. Are these what you are talking about? They weren't very helpful, to be honest. Yes, I put my resume to the "Canadian" format ... etc, but didn't change much in the response rate for my applications.

I had a job even before we landed here.. we landed on a Friday and I was going to office on Monday. So my situation is slightly different from yours... having said that I have seen my better half struggling to get a job here.. she had 10+ years experience(none in US/CA)...she struggled for more than a year to get a job. She did try to get "any" job and nothing worked. However, she was getting interview calls from big companies, like four seasons, Canadian Tire, Walmart etc. She used to reach their final stage(s) and they wont select her...It was clear that they didn't want to consider anyone who doesn't have any US/Canada experience. I am not sure if you are in similar situation. She did get a break and now works for a Fortune 6 company at a managerial position - she used to work for fortune 20 brand earlier.

If you are getting interviews and not getting selected then it may be just matter of time...if its 1:10 thing then you have to get though 9 unsccuessful tries before one clicks...just keep trying and hang tight.. for us it was a financial drain, we spent most of our savings in that one year ..but whatever you can't control everything... Keep a medium term view on getting a survival job..it can backfire...all the best to you.. hope you get what you want..

 

[usthb]

Well-articulated ! There're a bunch of them like the aforesaid commentator who reckons they run IRCC, and even Canada- I had a tough time with these blokes yesterday for their ill-founded thoughts (like requesting wheelchair assistance when one doesn't even need it /a flight itinerary when the IRCC doesn't even request one etc..). These bigots are also hell jealous on nouveau immigrants making money as soon as they land, or even availing government assistance for higher learning. I can showcase several examples alluding to this condescending attitude of theirs- I reckon most are jobless and on government dime.

Very well said. I wish good luck to the fellow migrants as they go through this -lets name it - hardship.
I was naive but now I also realize how these wizards operate.

There is person that I met one year ago. This person is a very qualified human resource who also was in charge of helping migrants with their integration. We had had long discussions.

Based on these discussions and observations of my own, these are some points I would like to make:

- The system (that one promoted by the wizards) is designed to push qualified/skilled people to take survival jobs and ultimately to reach people's self-esteem and hit where it hurts the most. I have seen some very competent people have their career destroyed.
Whenever they complain they are faced with the arguments that they should have known, why have they joined Canada then. Etc.

- Lets visit this famous CV in Canadian format (the absolute must). While there is some truth in that there are some custom manners to present a CV in Canada, the CV argument is debunked. Friend, people attaching too much attention to the form at the expense of the content are just lacking competence. In fact, in this respect, beyond the area of what isvreasonnable, comes the ridiculous. In fact, the real truth is that lack of competence in the market place is blattant. People are just unsecure and just do not want to give the opportunity to others to shine. Well ultimately it can happen for few but they make it unnecessary hard. Actually, people here are competent in communication and presentation skills. But when it comes to pure technical skills, competence is rare. And when competence is lacking you end up arguing endlessly about the meangless details. Its a classical scheme. That is why the recruiters are not playing a fair game with job seekers. Most likely there is nothing wrong with your CV. There are few exceptions I know of, these are especially IT, software engineering and data engonnering and analysis segments. There, the demand is so high and sustained that the market behaves more or less 'normally'. On top, I consider that there is a prevalent culture of scarcity which you would not expect from a western/well developped country. This is no a zero sum game: Making good use of the skills available in the market place is good for Canada and good for everyone. But no, dirty game is played for new migrants letting them become entrapped and then enslaved in survival jobs. Tremendous skills have vanished just because some people continue to erect barriers. The fact that 80% of the job market is underground is not the problem. The problem is that noone seems annoyed by it in what is claimed to be meritocracy.

 

[CaBeaver]

I had a job even before we landed here.. we landed on a Friday and I was going to office on Monday. So my situation is slightly different from yours... having said that I have seen my better half struggling to get a job here.. she had 10+ years experience(none in US/CA)...she struggled for more than a year to get a job. She did try to get "any" job and nothing worked. However, she was getting interview calls from big companies, like four seasons, Canadian Tire, Walmart etc. She used to reach their final stage(s) and they wont select her...It was clear that they didn't want to consider anyone who doesn't have any US/Canada experience. I am not sure if you are in similar situation. She did get a break and now works for a Fortune 6 company at a managerial position - she used to work for fortune 20 brand earlier.

If you are getting interviews and not getting selected then it may be just matter of time...if its 1:10 thing then you have to get though 9 unsccuessful tries before one clicks...just keep trying and hang tight.. for us it was a financial drain, we spent most of our savings in that one year ..but whatever you can't control everything... Keep a medium term view on getting a survival job..it can backfire...all the best to you.. hope you get what you want..

I am n a similar situation where I don't have US/CA experience, but I finished my PhD from Canada. I don't get 1:10. In the last 3 years I have done just 1 or 2 in-person interview. All other interviews were just phone interviews. For some reason, they don't select me to move forward, and I tried to follow how to address questions, and edited my resume many times based on professional training, but nothing worked.