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Foreign Job Employment Letter - From reporting manager

Anya9

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Hello!

My previous employer, wouldn't give me a reference letter due to comany policy. My manager whom I reported to directly has given me the reference letter in formate required for CEC.

Should I get this letter notarized ?
 

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Hello!

My previous employer, wouldn't give me a reference letter due to comany policy. My manager whom I reported to directly has given me the reference letter in formate required for CEC.
??? Your former manager counts as your former employer. IRCC prefers a letter from your direct supervisor to a generic letter from HR. Just make sure all the required details are in the letter.

Should I get this letter notarized ?
No. If your former manager is no longer with the company you worked for, just be sure his/her current contact details are on the letter.
 

Anya9

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My apologies I could phrased it much clearer. What I meant is, I emailed my previous company's HR department for employment/reference letter. Due to company polices they couldn't provide one.

Hence, I asked my manager whom i reported directly then and he provided me the letter with his contact details (phone and email id). He is not with the company anymore as well.

I read somewhere in this forum to have the notarized if it's from manager and not through HR. (I could be wrong)
 

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My apologies I could phrased it much clearer. What I meant is, I emailed my previous company's HR department for employment/reference letter. Due to company polices they couldn't provide one.

Hence, I asked my manager whom i reported directly then and he provided me the letter with his contact details (phone and email id). He is not with the company anymore as well.

I read somewhere in this forum to have the notarized if it's from manager and not through HR. (I could be wrong)
Because what counts is what strangers on an internet forum say, instead of IRCC instructions? LOL. By all means, spend money on it if you want. But it is completely unnecessary. If IRCC wanted it notarized, they would ask. People invent all kinds of rules on here (or expect Canada's rules to be the same as the ones "back home"), when they would be better off just reading instructions and following them :)

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/permanent-residence/express-entry/applications-received-on-after-january-1-2016-completeness-check.html

the reference letter "should be an official document printed on company letterhead (must include the applicant’s name, the company’s contact information [address, telephone number and email address], and the name, title and signature of the immediate supervisor or personnel officer at the company)"

So there is nothing out of the ordinary about getting the letter from a manager. However, because your former manager is no longer with the company, you should include a brief letter of explanation about your efforts to get a letter from the HR department, and include the email refusal.
 

Anya9

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Because what counts is what strangers on an internet forum say, instead of IRCC instructions? LOL. By all means, spend money on it if you want. But it is completely unnecessary. If IRCC wanted it notarized, they would ask. People invent all kinds of rules on here (or expect Canada's rules to be the same as the ones "back home"), when they would be better off just reading instructions and following them :)

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/permanent-residence/express-entry/applications-received-on-after-january-1-2016-completeness-check.html

the reference letter "should be an official document printed on company letterhead (must include the applicant’s name, the company’s contact information [address, telephone number and email address], and the name, title and signature of the immediate supervisor or personnel officer at the company)"

So there is nothing out of the ordinary about getting the letter from a manager. However, because your former manager is no longer with the company, you should include a brief letter of explanation about your efforts to get a letter from the HR department, and include the email refusal.
Thanks a lot, will add the letter of explanation and the refusal mail. Appreciate your help.
 

Anya9

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Naive question: since he is not with the company, the letter is not printed on an official letter head... obviously. Anything to be done here?

Because what counts is what strangers on an internet forum say, instead of IRCC instructions? LOL. By all means, spend money on it if you want. But it is completely unnecessary. If IRCC wanted it notarized, they would ask. People invent all kinds of rules on here (or expect Canada's rules to be the same as the ones "back home"), when they would be better off just reading instructions and following them :)

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/permanent-residence/express-entry/applications-received-on-after-january-1-2016-completeness-check.html

the reference letter "should be an official document printed on company letterhead (must include the applicant’s name, the company’s contact information [address, telephone number and email address], and the name, title and signature of the immediate supervisor or personnel officer at the company)"

So there is nothing out of the ordinary about getting the letter from a manager. However, because your former manager is no longer with the company, you should include a brief letter of explanation about your efforts to get a letter from the HR department, and include the email refusal.
 

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Naive question: since he is not with the company, the letter is not printed on an official letter head... obviously. Anything to be done here?
Just .... make sure that is explained in the letter, and include his current contact info...