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[Betabr]

I just spoke to CIC and I'm allowed to stay AND work in Canada after my current status runs out as I'll have the implied status.
Technically, you can leave the country (family emergency or whatnot) but they wouldn't recommend it as you'll lose that implied status and can only come in as a visitor.

Also, no need to apply to extend the stay as a visitor on top of extending the stay as a worker.
If you've received AOR, you should be good and nothing is missing on your application.

That is good news for you. However, if I were you I would talk with more than just one person, just to be super super sure. It is not always that call center gives away the right information.

 

[Iglet]

That is good news for you. However, if I were you I would talk with more than just one person, just to be super super sure. It is not always that call center gives away the right information.

I´m inland applicant with Turist Visa expire 2021 and Temporarily Resindence expire Ago 2019, I traveled to Mexico for a week with my partner, I had nervious but all was very well in the border, only one question 5 minutes max with the officer,

 

[np08]

I just spoke to CIC and I'm allowed to stay AND work in Canada after my current status runs out as I'll have the implied status.
Technically, you can leave the country (family emergency or whatnot) but they wouldn't recommend it as you'll lose that implied status and can only come in as a visitor.

Also, no need to apply to extend the stay as a visitor on top of extending the stay as a worker.
If you've received AOR, you should be good and nothing is missing on your application.

This is wrong information and you shouldn't post it in other threads. You were already told that this is usually a source of confusion, but that you're not legally allowed to work in Canada without a currently valid document allowing you to do so. In the period between the expiration of your current work permit and getting the OWP, you will not have a document allowing you to work.

Call centre agents aren't immigration officers and they tend to make mistakes often.

It's not mandatory to extend your status - many people don't. But if your OWP app is returned, you will lose your implied status and be unable to reapply for the work permit until approval in principle of your PR application, which happens at the end of the whole process.

 

[Pompoms]

This is wrong information and you shouldn't post it in other threads. You were already told that this is usually a source of confusion, but that you're not legally allowed to work in Canada without a currently valid document allowing you to do so. In the period between the expiration of your current work permit and getting the OWP, you will not have a document allowing you to work.

Call centre agents aren't immigration officers and they tend to make mistakes often.

It's not mandatory to extend your status - many people don't. But if your OWP app is returned, you will lose your implied status and be unable to reapply for the work permit until approval in principle of your PR application, which happens at the end of the whole process.

You can legally stay and work in Canada as implied status as long as you had applied for your PR and work permit before your current work permit expired. I had a work permit and it expired already. But I applied for the pr and open work permit before it happened. My Immigration lawyer said it is legal and also the HR from my work place(I work for a big company which has lots immigrants) said it is okay as long as I submit the documents to prove that I had applied for work permit. They even have a form to let employees in that case know what documents to bring to allow them to continue working.
Here is the link for implied status from cic.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=188&top=17

 

[newfoundlove]

You can legally stay and work in Canada as implied status as long as you had applied for your PR and work permit before your current work permit expired. I had a work permit and it expired already. But I applied for the pr and open work permit before it happened. My Immigration lawyer said it is legal and also the HR from my work place(I work for a big company which has lots immigrants) said it is okay as long as I submit the documents to prove that I had applied for work permit. They even have a form to let employees in that case know what documents to bring to allow them to continue working.
Here is the link for implied status from cic.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=188&top=17

I just talked to CIC ~again~ and they said exactly what you said.
I've had this confirmed twice now by 2 CIC agents.

Yes, everybody makes mistakes but why would they give out wrong information all the time?

I've decided not to send the extension as visitor as I've already sent the extension as a worker and will hope for the best.
However, I will stop working after Jan 3rd, just in case.

np08, I'd like to know where you get your information from?

 

[np08]

I just talked to CIC ~again~ and they said exactly what you said.
I've had this confirmed twice now by 2 CIC agents.

Yes, everybody makes mistakes but why would they give out wrong information all the time?

I've decided not to send the extension as visitor as I've already sent the extension as a worker and will hope for the best.
However, I will stop working after Jan 3rd, just in case.

np08, I'd like to know where you get your information from?

You've talked to several far more senior members of this forum on this topic than myself, who have all given you more examples and explanations on this. My information comes from things like the link posted above and being on this forum for years and seeing this happen over and over again. Just like your agents told you you can work, there's been opposite cases where agents said people in your situation can't work.

From that link that was posted it says:

If you applied for a different kind of permit

• You cannot do any of the activities allowed by the original work permit. For example, you may have come to Canada as a worker and then applied for a study permit. If so, you must stop working once your work permit expires. After that, you cannot work or study until you get a new permit.

For example, way back when, when my wife was applying for her PR through the Experience Class, her original work permit was expiring so she applied for the so called bridging work permit. This bridging work permit essentially extends her existing work permit under all of the existing conditions and is the same as her work permit. She was allowed to continue working while on implied status from that application.

If you're going from a working holiday visa to an open work permit, you're switching work permit types, not just extending the original work permit.

Regardless, there seems to be some confusion specifically related to, "I don't want to extend my visitor status on top of it," - the reason why this is advised is simply because, if your OWP application gets returned (due to wrong fees, missing signatures, wrong info, whatever), then your implied status ends and you're out of status altogether. This goes beyond and regardless of any discussion on whether or not you can work on implied status and all that. If you're out of status due to the app being returned, then you can't reapply for said work permit until approval in principal of your PR application which happens at the very end of the process. Which means about 10 or so months of not being able to work.

This is what everyone that applies for the OWP has to think about (if their status is expiring soon) and decide whether or not they're gonna get that $100 peace of mind or not, basically. I personally didn't. I applied Feb 9, status expired April 14. My thinking at the time was, if they haven't returned my app in more than two months, they probably won't at all and it's fine. I got my work permit end of May. But I'm not sure if I'd apply that same logic here given the postal strikes going on.

So I just wanna clear up that we're talking about two different issues: whether or not you can work on implied status and whether or not you should extend the visitor status.

You are of course free to do as you will on any of these issues. We're all here simply sharing experiences and knowledge gained through years of dealing with Canadian Immigration.

 

[newfoundlove]

You've talked to several far more senior members of this forum on this topic than myself, who have all given you more examples and explanations on this. My information comes from things like the link posted above and being on this forum for years and seeing this happen over and over again. Just like your agents told you you can work, there's been opposite cases where agents said people in your situation can't work.

From that link that was posted it says:

If you applied for a different kind of permit

• You cannot do any of the activities allowed by the original work permit. For example, you may have come to Canada as a worker and then applied for a study permit. If so, you must stop working once your work permit expires. After that, you cannot work or study until you get a new permit.

For example, way back when, when my wife was applying for her PR through the Experience Class, her original work permit was expiring so she applied for the so called bridging work permit. This bridging work permit essentially extends her existing work permit under all of the existing conditions and is the same as her work permit. She was allowed to continue working while on implied status from that application.

If you're going from a working holiday visa to an open work permit, you're switching work permit types, not just extending the original work permit.

Regardless, there seems to be some confusion specifically related to, "I don't want to extend my visitor status on top of it," - the reason why this is advised is simply because, if your OWP application gets returned (due to wrong fees, missing signatures, wrong info, whatever), then your implied status ends and you're out of status altogether. This goes beyond and regardless of any discussion on whether or not you can work on implied status and all that. If you're out of status due to the app being returned, then you can't reapply for said work permit until approval in principal of your PR application which happens at the very end of the process. Which means about 10 or so months of not being able to work.

This is what everyone that applies for the OWP has to think about (if their status is expiring soon) and decide whether or not they're gonna get that $100 peace of mind or not, basically. I personally didn't. I applied Feb 9, status expired April 14. My thinking at the time was, if they haven't returned my app in more than two months, they probably won't at all and it's fine. I got my work permit end of May. But I'm not sure if I'd apply that same logic here given the postal strikes going on.

So I just wanna clear up that we're talking about two different issues: whether or not you can work on implied status and whether or not you should extend the visitor status.

You are of course free to do as you will on any of these issues. We're all here simply sharing experiences and knowledge gained through years of dealing with Canadian Immigration.

I appreciate your time and response.

This is what I mean:

I am going from one open work permit (different program, but same work permit) to another. I am not changing my permit, for example changing to study permit.

• You must stay in Canada and meet the conditions of your original work permit. If you applied for a work permit extension before your work permit expired, you can keep working under the same conditions as your existing permit until we decide on your application unless you have applied to extend your stay under another category.

I have applied before my work permit expired and it's for the same kind of work permit - an open one, just like I have now.

I think we can agree that this is confusing as heck

 

[np08]

I appreciate your time and response.

This is what I mean:

I am going from one open work permit (different program, but same work permit) to another. I am not changing my permit, for example changing to study permit.

• You must stay in Canada and meet the conditions of your original work permit. If you applied for a work permit extension before your work permit expired, you can keep working under the same conditions as your existing permit until we decide on your application unless you have applied to extend your stay under another category.

I have applied before my work permit expired and it's for the same kind of work permit - an open one, just like I have now.

I think we can agree that this is confusing as heck

It sure is. I personally would not risk potentially working illegally with a PR application in process as consequences if found out could be pretty steep. I'd rather just wait out that month or two.

Regardless, I'm glad we cleared up the confusion regarding the visitor status. Wishing you all the best!

 

[newfoundlove]

It sure is. I personally would not risk potentially working illegally with a PR application in process as consequences if found out could be pretty steep. I'd rather just wait out that month or two.

Regardless, I'm glad we cleared up the confusion regarding the visitor status. Wishing you all the best!

Thank you.

I'll definitely stop working after my status runs out and just wait for the OWP approval

 

[elcwhitney]

Saw on the facebook group that late September applicants are receiving MR's We're next y'all!!

 

[baimmeb]

Sept 24's applicants got MR today...

 

[PumpkinPancake]

I appreciate your time and response.

This is what I mean:

I am going from one open work permit (different program, but same work permit) to another. I am not changing my permit, for example changing to study permit.

• You must stay in Canada and meet the conditions of your original work permit. If you applied for a work permit extension before your work permit expired, you can keep working under the same conditions as your existing permit until we decide on your application unless you have applied to extend your stay under another category.

I have applied before my work permit expired and it's for the same kind of work permit - an open one, just like I have now.

Not wanting to stir things up (sorry ), but this reminded me that when you apply for an OWP with your PR application, on IMM 5710 you check "apply for a work permit for the first time or with a new employer" (or at least I did...) so my logic is that this proves that you are not extending a permit but asking for a new one, under a different program, therefore no implied status.
Thank you np08 for clearing the confusion. I've read too that CIC agents are not always 100% reliable on such questions, especially as the IEC is a specific type of OWP that is not always well known or understood by CIC agents you get over the phone.

 

[Angel1029]

You've talked to several far more senior members of this forum on this topic than myself, who have all given you more examples and explanations on this. My information comes from things like the link posted above and being on this forum for years and seeing this happen over and over again. Just like your agents told you you can work, there's been opposite cases where agents said people in your situation can't work.

From that link that was posted it says:

If you applied for a different kind of permit

• You cannot do any of the activities allowed by the original work permit. For example, you may have come to Canada as a worker and then applied for a study permit. If so, you must stop working once your work permit expires. After that, you cannot work or study until you get a new permit.

For example, way back when, when my wife was applying for her PR through the Experience Class, her original work permit was expiring so she applied for the so called bridging work permit. This bridging work permit essentially extends her existing work permit under all of the existing conditions and is the same as her work permit. She was allowed to continue working while on implied status from that application.

If you're going from a working holiday visa to an open work permit, you're switching work permit types, not just extending the original work permit.

Regardless, there seems to be some confusion specifically related to, "I don't want to extend my visitor status on top of it," - the reason why this is advised is simply because, if your OWP application gets returned (due to wrong fees, missing signatures, wrong info, whatever), then your implied status ends and you're out of status altogether. This goes beyond and regardless of any discussion on whether or not you can work on implied status and all that. If you're out of status due to the app being returned, then you can't reapply for said work permit until approval in principal of your PR application which happens at the very end of the process. Which means about 10 or so months of not being able to work.

This is what everyone that applies for the OWP has to think about (if their status is expiring soon) and decide whether or not they're gonna get that $100 peace of mind or not, basically. I personally didn't. I applied Feb 9, status expired April 14. My thinking at the time was, if they haven't returned my app in more than two months, they probably won't at all and it's fine. I got my work permit end of May. But I'm not sure if I'd apply that same logic here given the postal strikes going on.

So I just wanna clear up that we're talking about two different issues: whether or not you can work on implied status and whether or not you should extend the visitor status.

You are of course free to do as you will on any of these issues. We're all here simply sharing experiences and knowledge gained through years of dealing with Canadian Immigration.

hi i just want to share you guys my experience .last 2 years ago i come here tru IEC program and i got a 1 year open work permit. 1 monthbeforemywork permit expire i apply for pr together for owp. then 2months later i got a file number from my pr application and at the same time they also return my owp application in the reason of lack of owp payment since i only pay 150. if your on implied status i believe your only allowed to work for 30 days after your work permit expired providing that you submit your application before your wp expired and if after your work permit app result wont be release with in 30 days of expiration your not allowed to work anymore. in my case when my work permit expire i immediately stop working and my partner is the one supporting me. in my case since they return my wp app and i get it in my mail 1 month later once my wp expire, i resubmit a work permit application immediately and sent togehter the front page of the wp appl they return me. ive read in the other furom once your out of status once you submit ur app you wont get any result til the Approval in Principal thats around 10 months. but it my case it didnt appky coz 2 months agter inresubmit my wp application i got a reault and they sent my in mail right away. so dont loose hope everything will be in order sooner youll get your wp soon

 

[baimmeb]

hopefully our OCT's applicants will get MR before xmas ...

 

[AndHern15]

Sept 24's applicants got MR today...

Hi. What is the MR?
Medical Exam?
Thanks.
Andrea H