Leave Canada after entering on CoPR

[sam406]

Hello,
Is it possible for me to leave Canada in a week or two after doing the entry process before my CoPR deadline?
Can i provide a local Canadian mailing address for CIC to maip my PR card? and then get my PR card mailed by my friend to my current country of residence? Which is US in this case.

 

[DelPiero07]

Yes to all your questions.

 

[EE456]

Hello,
Is it possible for me to leave Canada in a week or two after doing the entry process before my CoPR deadline?
Can i provide a local Canadian mailing address for CIC to maip my PR card? and then get my PR card mailed by my friend to my current country of residence? Which is US in this case.

Having your card sent to someone else's address is against the law and so is your friend sending it to another country.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Having your card sent to someone else's address is against the law and so is your friend sending it to another country.

Completely wrong on both counts.

 

[zardoz]

Having your card sent to someone else's address is against the law and so is your friend sending it to another country.

What a load of rubbish. It's both legal and common. I did exactly this when I did my first landing. In fact, the letter containing my PR card was opened by US Customs on it's way to me, resealed and forwarded with no problems.

 

[mr.preetsingh]

Having your card sent to someone else's address is against the law and so is your friend sending it to another country.

This is incorrect.

 

[EE456]

What a load of rubbish. It's both legal and common. I did exactly this when I did my first landing. In fact, the letter containing my PR card was opened by US Customs on it's way to me, resealed and forwarded with no problems.

Rubbish is to say something is legal without backing it up with reference to any laws. Any IRCC employee you ask would tell you that you shouldn't have your card sent to someone else's address. As a matter of fact, one of the questions asked by the officer is whether the address the card is being sent to is your address, if you say "No" they will tell you straight away that you should apply for a PRTD to return to Canada.

IRCC is also very clear about warning against having the card sent overseas and the risk that entails. They explicitly state that the card is subject seizure and retainment by Canadian CBSA.

If you managed to do something, that doesn't make it legal.

Of course, not to mention the possibility of the card getting lost and the possibility of identity theft.

I will provide proof to substantiate my above claims.

Of course, each to his own. But I surely won't let anyone touch my PR card.

 

[safarizone]

Rubbish is to say something is legal without backing it up with reference to any laws. Any IRCC employee you ask would tell you that you shouldn't have your card sent to someone else's address. As a matter of fact, one of the questions asked by the officer is whether the address the card is being sent to is your address, if you say "No" they will tell you straight away that you should apply for a PRTD to return to Canada.

IRCC is also very clear about warning against having the card sent overseas and the risk that entails. They explicitly state that the card is subject seizure and retainment by Canadian CBSA.

If you managed to do something, that doesn't make it legal.

Of course, not to mention the possibility of the card getting lost and the possibility of identity theft.

I will provide proof to substantiate my above claims.

Of course, each to his own. But I surely won't let anyone touch my PR card.

I look forward to you sharing more information on this. I'm hesitant to do a soft landing because I don't trust anyone with my PR card and, as you said, there's very little clear indication that a Soft Landing is even legit.

 

[EE456]

I look forward to you sharing more information on this. I'm hesitant to do a soft landing because I don't trust anyone with my PR card and, as you said, there's very little clear indication that a Soft Landing is even legit.

Landing is landing, regardless of how long you decide to stay, your PR status is activated once you land, however, if you're not staying long enough to get your card then, according to the law, you should request a PRTD, it takes 2-4 weeks to receive and with it you reenter Canada.

If you want to have certainty, it's best to contact the embassy issuing your CoPR or IRCC and I can assure you that their answer will be that you get a PRTD.

It's better to be safe than sorry. You surely can take into account the opinion of the more senior ones here, however, at the end of the day, the decision is only yours how you wish to proceed.

Once I have info, I will post it here.

 

[zardoz]

IRCC is also very clear about warning against having the card sent overseas and the risk that entails. They explicitly state that the card is subject seizure and retainment by Canadian CBSA.

If you managed to do something, that doesn't make it legal.

Of course, not to mention the possibility of the card getting lost and the possibility of identity theft.

I will provide proof to substantiate my above claims.

Citation please, from either a publicly accessible, formally published, IRCC or CBSA source...

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Rubbish is to say something is legal without backing it up with reference to any laws. Any IRCC employee you ask would tell you that you shouldn't have your card sent to someone else's address. As a matter of fact, one of the questions asked by the officer is whether the address the card is being sent to is your address, if you say "No" they will tell you straight away that you should apply for a PRTD to return to Canada.

IRCC is also very clear about warning against having the card sent overseas and the risk that entails. They explicitly state that the card is subject seizure and retainment by Canadian CBSA.

If you managed to do something, that doesn't make it legal.

Of course, not to mention the possibility of the card getting lost and the possibility of identity theft.

I will provide proof to substantiate my above claims.

Of course, each to his own. But I surely won't let anyone touch my PR card.

On the contrary, it is rubbish to state that something is illegal without a legal reference to back it up. How do you expect people to quote the absence of a law to show that something is legal? No, it works the other way. The person stating something is illegal needs to quote the law.

As a matter of fact, CBSA allows people to send their PRs cards to other people's addresses all the time. It is only occasionally that an officer will tell a person that they can't.

If IRCC states that a PR card is subject to seizure, by all means, quote your source.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

I look forward to you sharing more information on this. I'm hesitant to do a soft landing because I don't trust anyone with my PR card and, as you said, there's very little clear indication that a Soft Landing is even legit.

What would even give you the idea that a soft landing is not legal? There is no law requiring you to live in Canada from the day you become a PR and it is pretty clear from the innumerable threads on this forum about soft landings that there is nothing illegal about them. As for mailing a PR card, again, there is no stated law against it and again, this is evidenced by the innumerable threads on the forum from people who have done it.

 

[EE456]

Citation please, from either a publicly accessible, formally published, IRCC or CBSA source...

On the contrary, it is rubbish to state that something is illegal without a legal reference to back it up. How do you expect people to quote the absence of a law to show that something is legal? No, it works the other way. The person stating something is illegal needs to quote the law.

As a matter of fact, CBSA allows people to send their PRs cards to other people's addresses all the time. It is only occasionally that an officer will tell a person that they can't.

If IRCC states that a PR card is subject to seizure, by all means, quote your source.

There's already too much rubbish for me to respond to this banter. I state my opinion like everyone else and whoever wants can agree or disagree but no one can call my view on something rubbish.

I will surely not promote something that is illegal or frowned upon by IRCC.

If people are supposed to have their PR cards sent overseas then one should wonder what a PRTD is for.


As to the source regarding seizure, here's one posted by a third party which is a response from IRCC-

Hiya,

Thanks for sharing your situation with us.

Neither us nor CIC recommend mailing or couriering your PR Card to a location outside Canada. The reasons are:
1. The card could be lost
2. The card could be stolen
3. Your identity could be stolen if a dishonest person gets hold of your PR Card while enroute
4. Factors beyond your control could significantly delay the delivery of the card (i.e. service strike, strife, etc.)

Further, CIC representatives have stated "there is an understanding between Canada Post and CIC that if a PR card is found to be internationally bound, then they have the right to intercept and return it to CIC." Also, there is a chance that the customs officials at the other end may seize the mail for whatever reason.

If you send the card outside of Canada, you do so at your own risk.

More information about this topic is available in the Forum.

I hope this information is helpful. Please let us know if you have further questions and if there is any follow up to your question and/or situation.

A-M
Your Settlement.Org Team

Here's the link: https://discuss.settlement.org/topic16019-can-my-friend-courier-my-pr-card-to-me-abroad.aspx

Not that this concerns me much but I dare you to send an enquiry to IRCC regarding these 2 subject-matters and post their response here for everyone to see.

I can't say more than I already have, I have more important things to tend to now.

I show up here to help when I have the time to and my advices aren't given arbitrarily.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

There's already too much rubbish for me to respond to this banter. I state my opinion like everyone else and whoever wants can agree or disagree but no one can call my view on something rubbish.

I will surely not promote something that is illegal or frowned upon by IRCC.

If people are supposed to have their PR cards sent overseas then one should wonder what a PRTD is for.


As to the source regarding seizure, here's one posted by a third party which is a response from IRCC-

Hiya,

Thanks for sharing your situation with us.

Neither us nor CIC recommend mailing or couriering your PR Card to a location outside Canada. The reasons are:
1. The card could be lost
2. The card could be stolen
3. Your identity could be stolen if a dishonest person gets hold of your PR Card while enroute
4. Factors beyond your control could significantly delay the delivery of the card (i.e. service strike, strife, etc.)

Further, CIC representatives have stated "there is an understanding between Canada Post and CIC that if a PR card is found to be internationally bound, then they have the right to intercept and return it to CIC." Also, there is a chance that the customs officials at the other end may seize the mail for whatever reason.

If you send the card outside of Canada, you do so at your own risk.

More information about this topic is available in the Forum.

I hope this information is helpful. Please let us know if you have further questions and if there is any follow up to your question and/or situation.

A-M
Your Settlement.Org Team

Here's the link: https://discuss.settlement.org/topic16019-can-my-friend-courier-my-pr-card-to-me-abroad.aspx

Not that this concerns me much but I dare you to send an enquiry to IRCC regarding these 2 subject-matters and post their response here for everyone to see.

I can't say more than I already have, I have more important things to tend to now.

I show up here to help when I have the time to and my advices aren't given arbitrarily.

You stated something was illegal; that is not stating an opinion. You have failed to provide the relevant legal reference and you will continue to fail at that because there IS NO LAW against mailing a PR card. Even the 3rd party information you quoted does not contain a legal reference.

 

[EE456]

I look forward to you sharing more information on this. I'm hesitant to do a soft landing because I don't trust anyone with my PR card and, as you said, there's very little clear indication that a Soft Landing is even legit.

#49

Apply for a PRTD, people receive it mostly within 2 weeks. Good luck