If they're doing Canadian immigration to work in the US, they're in for a very big surprise....
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Didn't say it would work out but many people do immigrate because they may have access to a US visa or if they change the system being categorized for immigration from Canada and not from their home country.
Correct. OP is not from India though (as far as I understood) and that means it'll be much faster to just immigrate directly to the US.
Don't really think the car industry is the best example given automation. Canada can't handle explosive population growth. We need population replacement plus some growth. That has more to do with cost of childcare and women's participation in the workforce. There has to be a happy medium between women participating in the labour pool and policies supporting families.
Even assuming full automation. If you have only x number of consumers that grows at 1% yearly. Then that's the most growth you can make since you cannot sell anymore than the population growth. You're conflating welfare/public support with economic/GDP growth.
If you're not selling more, your business can't grow. You can cut costs for a while but once you hit rock bottom, only way to really grow is to sell to a wider market. And remember that to export, you're competing with really cheap labor & fighting against a lot of tariffs. So it is crucial to have a growing domestic market, especially as the sector of entitled seniors who expect a lot of free stuff become 1/3 of your population (since you don't really have the money to support all their needs today, and relying on perpetual growth by borrowing from the future, and expecting the tax base to keep expanding).
So let people continually exploit the rules? If that’s your reasoning based solely that Canada’s population is low, why even have any immigration rules at all ?
Let it be by first come first served , no applications what so ever , if you’re just looking for bodies to fill the low population
Just to clarify...which people do you mean & which rules? If yo're talking about free healthcare...the ones abusing this are Canadians not living in Canada during their productive years and retiring there to leech. Immigrants are REQUIRED to live in Canada for a long time.
As for "let's remove the immig system", no point in replying to this obvious strawman argument. Just in case you're a Canadian or someone who actually wants Canada to advance, the current system prioritizes the most desperate. I know so many people who didn't bother immigrating and moved directly to the US (in the high skilled caliber) even despite Trump policies. Skilled people have options and it's hard to see how Canada can retain the ones who can actually give the most. Salaries are so low there and when starting a business, America still has a much bigger & better talent pool.
My opinion: canada is an amazing country if you're born in it. You get all the free stuff as a child & student. But if you wanna make money, use your passport to go elsewhere and retire in Canada after you have made a lot of money, and enjoy the fruits of new immigrants who are stuck for a while in Canada (physical presence)
You do know that Canadian Citizens who lives outside of the country still need to pay taxes on their world income right? So technically even though they come back to retire, they will still receive pension from the government because of their taxes paid like CPP
That's not accurate. If you declare yourself as a non-resident, you don't have to file taxes while living outside of Canada.
https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/tax/international-non-residents/individuals-leaving-entering-canada-non-residents/non-residents-canada.html
Yes that is correct but in the aspect of people who still have ties such as rental income in Canada which alot of people does when they rent out their homes while they are away still need to file income tax. But in some cases CRA do still request non residents to file income tax and im speaking from personal work experiences.
Your earlier post made it sound like all Canadians citizens living outside of Canada must file taxes on worldwide income. Thought it was important to clarify that isn't the case. Agreed there are cases where they still have to file. But there are many instances where they don't.
Given the topic of this thread, that poster was probably referring to the parents of "anchor babies". Those people certainly do abuse our healthcare system, especially the ones that rack up unpaid bills and flee the country with their Canadian child. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44474648
Immigrants are certainly not required to live in Canada for a long time. 2 out of 5 years to maintain PR status or 3 years as a PR and they can become Canadian.
3 whole years of taxes for free healthcare when they retire and subsidized post-secondary education for their children. Can't see how this is logical or sustainable. Unfairly gives the advantage to those who leave, make more money either in bigger markets or in tax-free/low tax regions and return.
Only if you're residing in Canada. If you're residing abroad, you only pay taxes on Canadian income. I do not know about pensions.
Yes, but 2 things to clarify: 1- Their children are Canadian so they are entitled to education. 2- As for the 2 out of 5 yrs, that's just to keep the PR, not to receive healthcare or any benefits. And to be a citizen they need at least 3 of 5 and the intent to stay after citizenship (and citizenship processing takes a year easy) so basically they're stuck for 5 years of physical presence.
A Canadian meanwhile just flees right after their subsidized education and make loads of money in the US or the Gulf, without paying a penny back. That's especially true of "Canadian" Canadians (as this discussion shows, many Canadians do not see immigrants as equally Canadian entitled to all rights). But as you pointed out, it's not sustainable. In fact, the only way it's still going on is through more and more immigration. You'll see that plain clear if/when Canadians elect their own conservative populist (Max?). Entitlements & benefits need an increasing tax base, and if the workforce isn't expanding accordingly, then the rates will.
Many leave right after filing for citizenship so many will stay for 4 years. A large increase in population would likely just inflate the less productive citizen base. Unless you can guarantee that immigrants will be innovating and creating high quality jobs there is no point in a huge increase in immigration. Canada is mostly a service economy, we aren't competing with low cost manufacturers to produce basic-more complex goods to sell to people. We wouldn't be able to compete. It's a global world so as long as you have to ability to sell your services and products abroad you don't have to create your own huge population base. If Canada focused on higher labour force participation, increased education standards in STEM and created policies that would make having children more affordable while making workplaces more flexible you could make the country more productive.