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hope2018

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No, it is not my primary work experience. I've submitted those letter for the work experience which i've chosen to be my primary.
There is nothing known as primary or secondary work experience. One of the NOC needs to be selected as primary but you still need to show letter for other NOC if claiming points. How many years of total experience you have and out of those for how many years are you claiming points for?

If not claiming points for HDFC, then even if you have not uploaded letter, then officer will simply re-calculate points, it will not lead to rejection (ideally though it shoud not be shown in work history). Real issue is when you meant to claim points but did not upload letter.
 
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smcan2014

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I would recommend you to do what what @navinball recommended. That's the best option for you. You should not have uploaded HDFC in work history when you didn't have reference letter for it.
BTW, have you paid your RPRF fees?
 

Anuja Vinothkumar

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There is nothing known as primary or secondary work experience. One of the NOC needs to be selected as primary but you still need to show letter for other NOC if claiming points. How many years of total experience you have and out of those for how many years are you claiming points for?
I've 3.8yrs total experience and i claimed them all I've given relieving letter and form 16 for that work experience.
 

aliabbashusain

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There is nothing known as primary or secondary work experience. One of the NOC needs to be selected as primary but you still need to show letter for other NOC if claiming points. How many years of total experience you have and out of those for how many years are you claiming points for?

If not claiming points for HDFC, then even if you have not uploaded letter, then officer will simply re-calculate points, it will not lead to rejection (ideally though it shoud not be shown in work history). Real issue is when you meant to claim points but did not uplaod letter.
Hi Hope....I'm in a similar situation and my primary NOC is in review as I've provided a self attested letter. Here's the comment section of the notes but before that a brief.

My AOR is 7th Feb 2018 and there has been no activity on my account since 9th March when the last comment was made. I ordered 2 sets of GCMS one in April and another in June and both are exactly the same. I will complete 6 months in 7th August.

I have experience in 3 different organisations with 3 different NOCs. For company 1 I have worked in the UK & India as well. The organisation for which the question is raised is not ready to issue a detailed duty letter which I have already mentioned in my LOE.

Shall I be worried? I cannot get a letter although I can remove the primary NOC and replace with any of the other 2(if they allow me to). I had to put something in primary NOC therefore I put this one and now stuck :(

RECOMMENDATION: Review required SUMMARY NOTES: UNABLE TO VERIFY PA HAS ON YEAR OF WORK EXPERIENCE IN DECLARED PRIMARY NOC BASED ON DOCUMENTATION PROVIDED A11.2: Appears Met R75: FSW MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS - Review Required R76: SELECTION CRITERIA - FSW POINTS/Funds: Appears Met FSW points total: 77 Ready to Finalise RPRF: Complete
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Comprehensive Raking System(CRS) Score at invitation to apply (ITA) 446 CRS points minimum score for round: 439 CRS score at application(APR) 441 I have reviewed the following CRS points: PA gained points as MARRIED at ITA and APR PA gained points for 3+ year(s) Foreign work experience with XXXXX(company 1-UK) & XXXXX(company 1-India) & XXXXX(company 3-India)
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INTEGRATED SEARCH (FOSS/GCMS): No trace for all other than present application
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FAMILY COMPOSITION: MARRIED since 2011, marriage certificate is on file; Spouse is ACOMPANYING No indication of previous marriage/cl partners 1 child accompanying; Birth certificate reviewed: PA and Spouse listed as parents NOTE: SP'S NAME DOES NOT APPEAR ON MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE OR CHILD'S BIRTH CERT - AFFIDAVIT RE LEGAL CHANGE OF NAME EDOC, MEDICALS: All valid for 6 months or more, PASSPORTS: All valid for 6 months or more


EXPERIENCE: Lock in date: 2018-02-07 Primary Occupation: NOC 1112 Financial and Investment Analysts EDUCATION CREDENTIAL(S) PROVIDED: Master's Degree: Business Administration from Uni of Wales 2011; Bachelor's Degree: Management Studies from uni of Mumbai 2005 2011-03 to 2012-05 - Sr Operations Manager(NOC 1215) at XXXX(company 1-UK) – Letter dated 15-06-05 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category. – Letter confirms full time employment;

CRS Foreign work experience: 1 year and 4 months. 2013-09 to 2016-04 – Analyst (NOC 1112) – at XXXX(company 2 – India) *REVIEW REQUIRED* - Web based search confirms employer information NOTE: LOE CONFIRMS DECLARED WORK PERIOD AND JOB TITLE, JOB DUTIES NOT PROVIDED. PA HAS PROVIDED A SELF DECLARATION STATING JOB DUTIES CONSISTENT WITH DECLARED NOC HOWEVER UNABLE TO CONFIRM BASED ON INFORMATION PROVIDED FROM COMPANY; PA DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE EDUCATION CREDENTIALS CONSISTENT WITH FINANCIAL DUTIES - Letter confirms full time employment; - Documented income provided: Pay Stubs from 2013-2016

2016-07 to 2017-12 – Manager – Group license administration (NOC 1122) at XXXX(Company 3 – India) Web based search confirms employer information – Letter dated 17-12-12 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category. NOTE: ADJUSTED END DATE OF WORK PERIOD FROM DECLARED 2018-02 TO DATE OF LOE: 2017-12 – Letter confirms full time employment; - Documented Income provided: Pay Stubs from 2016-2017 CRS Foreign work experience 1 year and 6 months. FSW work: 0 year(s) 0 months(s) of 1 year(s) – REVIEW REQUIRED CRS Foreign Work: 3+ year(s)

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------WORK EXPERIENCE: 4-5 years, 13 FSW Points

ADAPTABILITY: 5 fsw Points spouse has language proficiency

SETTLEMENT FUNDS: Appears to meet approx. $$$ as per bank statement, family of 3 requires $19093
 

smcan2014

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AOR Received.
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Med's Done....
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Interview........
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Passport Req..
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VISA ISSUED...
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LANDED..........
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No not yet and how can i remove it now?
As they have not requested RPRF yet, they are still working on your eligibility. Just upload an LOE through a webform an explain your real intention was to put the HDFC experience under personal history as you didn't have any letter to support that experience.
 

hope2018

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Hi Hope....I'm in a similar situation and my primary NOC is in review as I've provided a self attested letter. Here's the comment section of the notes but before that a brief.

My AOR is 7th Feb 2018 and there has been no activity on my account since 9th March when the last comment was made. I ordered 2 sets of GCMS one in April and another in June and both are exactly the same. I will complete 6 months in 7th August.

I have experience in 3 different organisations with 3 different NOCs. For company 1 I have worked in the UK & India as well. The organisation for which the question is raised is not ready to issue a detailed duty letter which I have already mentioned in my LOE.

Shall I be worried? I cannot get a letter although I can remove the primary NOC and replace with any of the other 2(if they allow me to). I had to put something in primary NOC therefore I put this one and now stuck :(

RECOMMENDATION: Review required SUMMARY NOTES: UNABLE TO VERIFY PA HAS ON YEAR OF WORK EXPERIENCE IN DECLARED PRIMARY NOC BASED ON DOCUMENTATION PROVIDED A11.2: Appears Met R75: FSW MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS - Review Required R76: SELECTION CRITERIA - FSW POINTS/Funds: Appears Met FSW points total: 77 Ready to Finalise RPRF: Complete
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Comprehensive Raking System(CRS) Score at invitation to apply (ITA) 446 CRS points minimum score for round: 439 CRS score at application(APR) 441 I have reviewed the following CRS points: PA gained points as MARRIED at ITA and APR PA gained points for 3+ year(s) Foreign work experience with XXXXX(company 1-UK) & XXXXX(company 1-India) & XXXXX(company 3-India)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

INTEGRATED SEARCH (FOSS/GCMS): No trace for all other than present application
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


FAMILY COMPOSITION: MARRIED since 2011, marriage certificate is on file; Spouse is ACOMPANYING No indication of previous marriage/cl partners 1 child accompanying; Birth certificate reviewed: PA and Spouse listed as parents NOTE: SP'S NAME DOES NOT APPEAR ON MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE OR CHILD'S BIRTH CERT - AFFIDAVIT RE LEGAL CHANGE OF NAME EDOC, MEDICALS: All valid for 6 months or more, PASSPORTS: All valid for 6 months or more


EXPERIENCE: Lock in date: 2018-02-07 Primary Occupation: NOC 1112 Financial and Investment Analysts EDUCATION CREDENTIAL(S) PROVIDED: Master's Degree: Business Administration from Uni of Wales 2011; Bachelor's Degree: Management Studies from uni of Mumbai 2005 2011-03 to 2012-05 - Sr Operations Manager(NOC 1215) at XXXX(company 1-UK) – Letter dated 15-06-05 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category. – Letter confirms full time employment;

CRS Foreign work experience: 1 year and 4 months. 2013-09 to 2016-04 – Analyst (NOC 1112) – at XXXX(company 2 – India) *REVIEW REQUIRED* - Web based search confirms employer information NOTE: LOE CONFIRMS DECLARED WORK PERIOD AND JOB TITLE, JOB DUTIES NOT PROVIDED. PA HAS PROVIDED A SELF DECLARATION STATING JOB DUTIES CONSISTENT WITH DECLARED NOC HOWEVER UNABLE TO CONFIRM BASED ON INFORMATION PROVIDED FROM COMPANY; PA DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE EDUCATION CREDENTIALS CONSISTENT WITH FINANCIAL DUTIES - Letter confirms full time employment; - Documented income provided: Pay Stubs from 2013-2016

2016-07 to 2017-12 – Manager – Group license administration (NOC 1122) at XXXX(Company 3 – India) Web based search confirms employer information – Letter dated 17-12-12 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category. NOTE: ADJUSTED END DATE OF WORK PERIOD FROM DECLARED 2018-02 TO DATE OF LOE: 2017-12 – Letter confirms full time employment; - Documented Income provided: Pay Stubs from 2016-2017 CRS Foreign work experience 1 year and 6 months. FSW work: 0 year(s) 0 months(s) of 1 year(s) – REVIEW REQUIRED CRS Foreign Work: 3+ year(s)

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------WORK EXPERIENCE: 4-5 years, 13 FSW Points

ADAPTABILITY: 5 fsw Points spouse has language proficiency

SETTLEMENT FUNDS: Appears to meet approx. $$$ as per bank statement, family of 3 requires $19093
It is not about primary NOC. You provided self attested letter, you should have got a colleague to write a letter for you.
And just making some other NOC as primary does not solve the purpose here. As I explained earlier, if you are claiming points for all 3 jobs then you need to provide letter for all three companies , as simple as that. Can you get a colleague to write letter for you and uplaod via CSE?
 

Anuja Vinothkumar

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May 4, 2018
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As they have not requested RPRF yet, they are still working on your eligibility. Just upload an LOE through a webform an explain your real intention was to put the HDFC experience under personal history as you didn't have any letter to support that experience.
I've relieving letter and form 16 also i've uploaded the same.
 

smcan2014

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Oct 27, 2014
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VISA ISSUED...
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LANDED..........
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I've relieving letter and form 16 also i've uploaded the same.
Unfortunately they also need to validate job duties and job duties cannot be validated from the documents that you said you uploaded.
 

zagcollins

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you can upload an LOE through Webform saying that its not your primary noc and wont add to your CRS score and hence did not upload any reference letter. i dont think this is a cause for rejection. only thing is applications with 'review required' collect dust for several months till an officer passes it.
to add to what navinball said, SHOOT THE CONSULTANT!
 

hope2018

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As they have not requested RPRF yet, they are still working on your eligibility. Just upload an LOE through a webform an explain your real intention was to put the HDFC experience under personal history as you didn't have any letter to support that experience.
Wrong advice. It will lead to rejection if he is claiming points for it and it makes CRS fall below cut off
 
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