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strikeharsh

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Hello friends
Need urgent help.
I am in IP2 since 11 June 2018 and I am from India.. FSW-O.. I want to make a call to cic to know my status...
Which number should I call as my file is outside Canada(NDVO)...
I tried calling yesterday at +1 6139444000
but they could not find my file... May b my file is outside Canada that's y..
Would really appreciate the help...
Raise CSE and wait 15-16 days for a response, webform always can connect to your VO and also you can order GCMS notes. For files outside of canada, IRCC phone agent has no access. Your only way is webform inquiry or GCMS notes
 

neetikapahwa

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Nov 1, 2017
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Hello friends
Need urgent help.
I am in IP2 since 11 June 2018 and I am from India.. FSW-O.. I want to make a call to cic to know my status...
Which number should I call as my file is outside Canada(NDVO)...
I tried calling yesterday at +1 6139444000
but they could not find my file... May b my file is outside Canada that's y..
Would really appreciate the help...
Hi even I moved to IP2 on 11-June. I’m sure we will get our PPRs within the coming week. How did you get to know your VO? I tried calling yesterday too and got the automated status update which was the Same as what it’s showing in my cic account. Was unable to speak to an agent though.
 
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legalfalcon

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AOR Received.
03-09-2015
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Passport Req..
05-04-2016
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12-04-2016
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05-05-2016
This afternoon I decided to order notes via @legalfalcon sir's website. As soon as I paid for the notes, I checked into my account to take note of my EE Profile No and the UCI in order to send the consent form. As soon as I logged in I noticed visual difference in text, "Application Updated". Inside I saw the BGC moved from IP1 to IP2. I was so thrilled, still am. My guess is that my application was stuck and as soon as I ordered the notes, it triggered the auto-update, I don't know. If my eligibility is passed, I am more than happy to wait 3 more months for the PPR.

@legalfalcon sir if you can give your opinion, I would appreciate it a lot. Thank you so very much.

Good weekend friends :)
This is not uncommon. When an application has been sitting for a long time, the GCMS notes when requested, force IRCC to pick the application up and ask the immigration officer to review the notes so that they can be released. When the request for GCMS notes is filed, this process happens within the first 1-3 days.

Most applications are stuck because the officer or the program assistant hasn't worked on them or were waiting for an input. Even after the information is received, since no one picks the application, it keeps sitting. The GCMS request forces the immigration officer to review the notes for release, and when he is looking at the file, and is there are any pending updates, he he will do it and this is why many applicants see a progress after requesting GCMS notes.

GCMS is a great tool if used effectively. This does not mean that there will be a progress in all cases, but there will be where there was just an update, or after BGC the reports from CSIS and CBSA are received and only have to be updated etc.

I am glad there was progress, and it seems that you are on the final stretch. If your BGC has started, then most likely your eligibility is passed.
 

legalfalcon

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Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
COPR cannot be used to return to Canada by Air (and maybe sea). But it can be used to return to Canada by Land from the US.
Not necessarily. Without a PR card a PR cannot enter Canada through any commercial transport, be it land, air or water. Even with a CoPR the admitting a PR at the land crossing is at the discretion of the CBSA officer. In most, but not all, cases the CBSA officer will review the system and verify the identity of the PR if he does not have a PR card.
 

zagcollins

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This afternoon I decided to order notes via @legalfalcon sir's website. As soon as I paid for the notes, I checked into my account to take note of my EE Profile No and the UCI in order to send the consent form. As soon as I logged in I noticed visual difference in text, "Application Updated". Inside I saw the BGC moved from IP1 to IP2. I was so thrilled, still am. My guess is that my application was stuck and as soon as I ordered the notes, it triggered the auto-update, I don't know. If my eligibility is passed, I am more than happy to wait 3 more months for the PPR.

@legalfalcon sir if you can give your opinion, I would appreciate it a lot. Thank you so very much.

Good weekend friends :)
yep, it's GCMS. My RPRF was generated on the day I filed for my GCMS - can't be a coincidence. Congrats, nearly there.
 
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Arod

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This is not uncommon. When an application has been sitting for a long time, the GCMS notes when requested, force IRCC to pick the application up and ask the immigration officer to review the notes so that they can be released. When the request for GCMS notes is filed, this process happens within the first 1-3 days.

Most applications are stuck because the officer or the program assistant hasn't worked on them or were waiting for an input. Even after the information is received, since no one picks the application, it keeps sitting. The GCMS request forces the immigration officer to review the notes for release, and when he is looking at the file, and is there are any pending updates, he he will do it and this is why many applicants see a progress after requesting GCMS notes.

GCMS is a great tool if used effectively. This does not mean that there will be a progress in all cases, but there will be where there was just an update, or after BGC the reports from CSIS and CBSA are received and only have to be updated etc.

I am glad there was progress, and it seems that you are on the final stretch. If your BGC has started, then most likely your eligibility is passed.
So, is it fair to say that if we don't see an update in our applications after some time it would be recommended to get notes?

Because I've been in IP1 for over 100 days now and I'm afraid I won't see any changes coming anytime soon.

Which brings me to another question: What if we don't request notes? At what time will the officer decide to look at an application sitting there for a long time? Don't they need to meet deadlines?

Thanks for your valuable support to the forum users.
 
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sahil1515

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Hello everyone,
I just want to ask that i am using IRCC automated phone system like everyday to know my updates. Does checking this frequently affects my application or it does not matter?
 

UKDreamer

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This afternoon I decided to order notes via @legalfalcon sir's website. As soon as I paid for the notes, I checked into my account to take note of my EE Profile No and the UCI in order to send the consent form. As soon as I logged in I noticed visual difference in text, "Application Updated". Inside I saw the BGC moved from IP1 to IP2. I was so thrilled, still am. My guess is that my application was stuck and as soon as I ordered the notes, it triggered the auto-update, I don't know. If my eligibility is passed, I am more than happy to wait 3 more months for the PPR.

@legalfalcon sir if you can give your opinion, I would appreciate it a lot. Thank you so very much.

Good weekend friends :)

I don't think this is the case. You will not get the update right away because the company that issues the notes on your behalf will FIRST need the consent form that you signed in order to file a request to IRCC to get the notes.

The Act of Information Access gives any individual the ability to get such updates. GetGCMS is actually acting on your behalf to get such information, and for it to be able to initiate the request, they will need your signed consent form.

The update you got at that moment was a coincidence I guess. But still good news. I also hope you will get more good news when the IRCC access your file upon receiving the Notes Request.

Good luck to all.
 
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legalfalcon

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Ottawa
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03-09-2015
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01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
So, is it fair to say that if we don't see an update in our applications after some time it would be recommended to get notes?

Because I've been in IP1 for over 100 days now and I'm afraid I won't see any changes coming anytime soon.

Which brings me to another question: What if we don't request notes? At what time will the officer decide to look at an application sitting there for a long time? Don't they need to meet deadlines?

Thanks for your valuable support to the forum users.
Most application are processed within 6 months. Now let me unequivocally an unambiguously state:

The 6 months processing time starts from the day when your R10 is passed.

The 6 months processing time does not start from the day of the AoR. The R10 is usually passed within the first 20-45 days. R10 is also called the completeness check. As per Regulation 10 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA), it is an absolute liability on the applicant to ensure that his application is complete, i.e. all the supporting documents are submitted. If anything is missing the application will be rejected. This is why there is no point requesting GCMS notes within the first 45 days, as even if any document is missing you cannot do much.

By the time R10 is complete, so is criminality, which is based on your PCCs, and Medicals are also passed.

After this comes the most important stage, ELIGIBILITY, also knows as A11.2. This is where the GCMS notes play a very vital role. The eligibility takes place in 2 stages. First an program assistant or analyst will review an application and then the recommendation is reviewed by an officer who makes a final determination. This stage is also the longest, barring any security or SS. Many times the program does not take into account your work experience, or forgets to review a document, or simply determines that your work ex does not meet the program requirements. As soon as you see these in your notes, you can raise a CSE and send more documents, which will then be review and hopefully you will save your application form getting into procedural fairness.

During the eligibility, you may end up requesting GCMS notes, 2-3 times. After the eligibility is passed, the BGC starts. After the BGC starts, there is nothing much an applicant can do expect wait. However, even after the eligibility is passed, sometimes the BGC never starts. This is when the GCMS notes will do the magic for a few as they force the officer to review the application fo GCMS notes release. If the eligibility is passed, but not updated in the system he will do so and initiate the BGC, and you see a movement in the application.

Similarly, when the BGC is complete, i.e. the CBSA and CSIS have sent in their reports, you application may keep sitting, and when GCMS notes are requested the officer will simply update your application and will put it in queue for PPR release.

This is how in some cases GCMS notes play a vital role.

Requesting GCMS notes is entirely a personal decision. You don't have to request GCMS notes. IF you do not request GCMS notes, then the application will progress at its own pace and you will only see the MyCIC status updates.

The whole criteria of IP1, IP2 etc. is based on MyCIC updates, and to use my words carefully, is nothing more than a waste of time and baloney. An application for PR goes through the following stages:

R10
Medicals
Criminality
Eligibility
Security.

The IP, IP2 is way to predict that if MyCIC status shows a certain update, it would mean that the application has passed a specific stage, which is just speculation and nothing more. Instead of that, an applicant can see the calendar and make assumptions, which is also as foolish as anything else.

Hope this helps and answers your question.

To read more on the stage of an application see: https://www.getgcms.com/blog/express-entry-application-processed/
 

vijayniranjan04

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have any one experienced saying the application is approved by the customer officer canada and they are waiting for PPR mail to be sent as they want to fill the correct time when they can accept passports , this is sydney office and its been more than 16 days
 

KingKurly

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I don't think it had anything to do with ordering of notes. But congratulations.
The thing is I ordered the notes during non-working hours in Canada. Hence I guess it was auto generated because of my order. Whatever is the relation of notes to update in my application, I am just happy that the BGC is now in progress :) Thank you.
 

rivertosouth

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have any one experienced saying the application is approved by the customer officer canada and they are waiting for PPR mail to be sent as they want to fill the correct time when they can accept passports , this is sydney office and its been more than 16 days
Mine is also in Sydney. How do you know the customer officer has approved your application? I changed to IP2 on 13th June, but no update since then.