Express Entry Step by step instructions.

[gio1]

Hi All,

I have a question regarding Express Entry Points and Draw. For example, I have indicated everything correctly, so correctly that the score I expected was exactly how much system awarded to me, namely 423. If I spend 3 months and polish my French and sit an exam I can increase it probably max to 447, but no more, as my age is my main drawback here. Now a heard rumors and have concerns (even though I do not understand why one would do that, because in documentation stage they will be exposed) that some people exaggerate their entries for Express Entry, for example by showing higher English or French Score or Work Experience even if they have not yet taken their test, and system awards them points for that and they are ranked let's say with 450 points above me. And in this case, I who have 423 and all the document to back it up, am being left out from the draw selection while those who inflated their entries got selected. Of course if they cannot prove they will eventually fail, but it does not help my cause. I am being left in the pool while fake entries are being selected. So my question is, how CIC/IRCC protects the system and thus fairness in draw process from such fake and fraudulent or inflated accounts? Is there any mechanism against that?

Personally for me it would be requirement to attach documents within 30 days of the application to prove and then be part of the draw, once you have proved your scores. But it seems it works other way around, they make draw based on whatever account holder claimed and then try to verify their credentials which leave actually ready and true accounts in the pool for good.

Please advise if you know of any measure CIC/IRCC is using to protect and safeguard system from such fraudulent entries, otherwise it seems very unfair process.

I think you should concern yourself more with how you would increase your score to land ITA or how else you would land ITA on time. People will always bend the rules, but the end justifies the means.

 

[Shubhdeep1994]

You already have the answer you seek: yes, all family members that are 18 years and above.

Thanks a lot @gio1 . That means I need to get PCC for my parents also? If yes, will it be separate for each family member or combined?

 

[Shubhdeep1994]

It should be fine but see if you can ask one of your superiors to write you a reference letter. The person should attach his complimentary card if he has one to substantiate his claim. You should do an LOE stating that it was impossible for you get reference letter from the company and if possible attach evidence, perhaps an email that was sent to you by the HR wherein they refused to issue you letter of reference.

Thanks @gio1 . Does it matter that my exp is of one year in probation i.e. I am a regular employee but I get only basic pay w/o any allowances ?

 

[gio1]

Thanks a lot @gio1 . That means I need to get PCC for my parents also? If yes, will it be separate for each family member or combined?

No you don't have to get PCC for your parents. Get for yourself, spouse and dependent children that are 18+.

 

[gio1]

Thanks @gio1 . Does it matter that my exp is of one year in probation i.e. I am a regular employee but I get only basic pay w/o any allowances ?

It doesn't matter whether you were paid only your basic salary. What matters is whether it is a paid job, full time or part time and the number of hours worked per week. Normally 40 hours per week is okay. Just get a good reference letter from your employer to support your claim.

 

[Shubhdeep1994]

Thanks a lot @gio1 for such valuable advice.

 

[gio1]

In PR application, I can see lot of forms to be filled in for self and dependents, but no option to upload any documents.

Is it like i need to fill in all the docs and then will get another window to upload docs ?

Save your entry, logout and login again. Also give it sometime but if it doesn't work, contact CIC and complain to them for a fix.

 

[gio1]

Thanks a lot @gio1 for such valuable advice.

You're welcome

 

[Shubhdeep1994]

Quick ques. @hope2018 , @gio1 -- Do we consider validity of various documents (ECA, PCC, Medicals etc.) upto receipt of ITA or PR ? Thanks.

 

[skmandava]

It's all on the CIC site: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/index.asp

But...

(Please note that this info does not apply to the Federal Skilled Trades Program)

1) Determine your eligibility by doing this CIC quiz http://www.cic.gc.ca/ctc-vac/ee-start.asp

2) Get your language test(s) done. You must get at least CLB 7 in each of the four sections for the Federal Skilled Worker (FSW), Provincial Nomination Program (PNP) or Canadian Experience Class (CEC) streams. But getting CLB 10 gives you maximum points for language.

How does CLB match back to the language tests? That info is here --> http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/language/charts.asp

3) Get your qualifications assessed by doing an Education Credential Assessment. Details here --> http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/assessment.asp

4) Determine the code that best applies to you on the National Occupation Classification (NOC) list http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/noc.asp

The occupation must be NOC 0, A, or B for FSW or CEC.

5) When you have those in hand you create your express entry profile. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/profile.asp and register for the Job Bank http://www.jobbank.gc.ca/home-eng.do?lang=eng

You'll be given points based on your age, education, number of years work experience, and language skills. The points system is detailed here --> http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/express-entry/grid-crs.asp

You'll be in a pool with thousands of other applicants http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/pool.asp

Of course, the more points you have the better. The max is 1200, with 600 of those points coming from your ability to snag a PNP or a job offer with a very hard to get Labour Market Impact Assessment http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/employers/lmo-basics.asp

For CEC applicants, the max is 600 but someone who has no work experience in Canada who is only eligible for FSW can only get up to 520 points.

6) Finally, wait for your invitation to apply (ITA). But in the interim you will need to do the following:

a) Have your application fee (C$550 each for principal applicant and spouse) and right of permanent resident fee (C$490 each for principal applicant and spouse) ready
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/fees/fees.asp

b) Identify how you will provide proof of funds http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/funds.asp

c) check out what is required for the police certificates http://www.cic.gc.ca/English/information/security/police-cert/index.asp

d) find out how long it takes to get a date for the medical exam. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/medical/medexams-perm.asp

e) contact previous and current employers about them providing job letters. You must have at least 12 months of full-time, or an equal amount in part-time, skilled work experience. Full-time work means at least 30 hours of paid work per week. Work experience while you were a full-time student does not count.

f) research cities in the province(s) where you want to live.

Hi ,

I have job experience letter which is issued in 2014 . Date is also mentioned in the letter. Can I use this letter if I am applying in 2018 for Express entry or do I need to get a fresh letter?

 

[mr.preetsingh]

Hi ,

I have job experience letter which is issued in 2014 . Date is also mentioned in the letter. Can I use this letter if I am applying in 2018 for Express entry or do I need to get a fresh letter?

Job experience letter is not required here. CIC asks for a reference letter which is little different.

 

[mr.preetsingh]

Quick ques. @hope2018 , @gio1 -- Do we consider validity of various documents (ECA, PCC, Medicals etc.) upto receipt of ITA or PR ? Thanks.

Sorry, this question was not asked to me, however I may answer this.
ECA validity is 5 years.
PCC (INDIAN) and Medical for 1 year.

once you have submitted your PR application, then everything timeline freezes.

 

[mr.preetsingh]

Hello guys.. need another help..
I am working in a power corporation run by state govt. The deptt refuses to provide any reference/experience letter. In this case, will joining letter, salary slips and bank statement(for salary a/c) be sufficient ?
Pls advise. Thanks.

If you are a permanent employee, you have to get NOC from your department without which your application will not be accepted.

 

[skmandava]

Job experience letter is not required here. CIC asks for a reference letter which is little different.

Ok. Even for the Reference letter , does the date it was issued really matter?

 

[mr.preetsingh]

Hi,
I'm a Canada PR aspirant. And had a score of 7 in IELTS (L-7.5, S, W, R -7).

So was planning to apply for PNP program. I wanted to know if we have to maintain the funds for about 6Lakhs (Single Person) for 6 months in our bank account and then apply for PNP. Please confirm

Thanks!!

Yes, for PNP programs they ask for 3 or 6 months of avg. funds equivalent to requirement.