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manishdamani271

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Hi ,

My wife is Canadian PR holder and I am working in US on H1B visa. We got married in April 2107 (in Canada) and I applied for PR under family sponsorship class. My process got delayed because it took time for me to get background check letter from FBI US ( FBI takes 3-4 months to process background check).

My wife went to India in October 2017 and I joined her in Feb 2018. We had our traditional Indian marriage in India. We both came to US in March 2018.

We both want to get relocate to Canada together after receiving my PR.

But today I have received below letter from CIC.

"
I have reviewed your application for a permanent resident visa as a member of the family class. I have
concerns that you do not meet the requirements for immigration to Canada.

Subsection 12(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act states that a foreign national may be
selected as a member of the family class on the basis of their relationship as the spouse, commonlaw
partner, child, parent or other prescribed family member of a Canadian citizen or permanent
resident.
Section 120 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations states that:
(a) a permanent resident visa shall not be issued to a foreign national who makes an application as a
member of the family class or to their accompanying family members unless a sponsorship
undertaking in respect of the foreign national and those family members is in effect, and
(b) a foreign national who makes an application as a member of the family class and their
accompanying family members shall not become permanent residents unless a sponsorship
undertaking in respect of the foreign national and those family members is in effect and the sponsor
who gave that undertaking still meets the requirements of section 133 and, if applicable, section 137.
Paragraph 133(1)(a) of the Regulations states (in part) that a sponsorship application shall only be
approved by an officer if, on the day on which the application was filed and from that day until the day
a decision is made with respect to the application, there is evidence that the sponsor is a sponsor as
described in section 130.
Paragraph 130(1)(b) states that, subject to subsections (2) and (3), a sponsor, for the purpose of
sponsoring a foreign national who makes an application for a permanent resident visa as a member of
the family class must be a Canadian citizen or permanent resident who resides in Canada.
Based on the information you have provided, I am not satisfied that your sponsor resides in Canada
from the day on which the application was filed up to now.
Subsection 11(1) of the Act provides that a foreign national must, before entering Canada, apply to an
officer for a visa or any other document required by the regulations. The visa or document shall be
issued if, following an examination, the officer is satisfied that the foreign national is not inadmissible
and meets the requirements of this Act.
The onus is on you to satisfy me that an immigrant visa can be issued to you. I would therefore
request that you send any information or documents which you consider might respond to this
concern within thirty (30) days. "


Please if any one can help me out what should we do in this situation? As per my understanding CIC want us to provide proof of our intent to return to Canada. Please correct me if I am wrong. Any suggestion would help us.
 

Forte

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Nov 14, 2016
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Canadian PRs have to be living in Canada if they are trying to sponsor a family member. Your sponsor has been living outside Canada for over 5 months.
 

Rob_TO

VIP Member
Nov 7, 2012
11,427
1,551
Toronto
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......
13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
Please if any one can help me out what should we do in this situation? As per my understanding CIC want us to provide proof of our intent to return to Canada. Please correct me if I am wrong. Any suggestion would help us.
PRs do not have the right to sponsor a spouse while they are not residing in Canada. PRs must be physically living in Canada to submit a family class PR app, and continue residing in Canada during processing time. This is one of the basic rules of a PR sponsoring a spouse.

The intent to move is completely irrelevant in this case.

Your only chance is for your spouse to immediately move back to Canada, submit proofs of this, and hope the visa officer reconsiders. If she doesn't, your app is guaranteed to be rejected. Even if she moves back there is a good chance the app will still be rejected since she's already obviously violated this rule.
 

manishdamani271

Star Member
May 10, 2013
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Canadian PRs have to be living in Canada if they are trying to sponsor a family member. Your sponsor has been living outside Canada for over 5 months.
Thank you for your reply. Yes my wife was living outside Canada. But can we do something now? because we both want to move back to Canada together. Does we stand no chance for my PR approval?
 

Forte

Hero Member
Nov 14, 2016
375
129
Thank you for your reply. Yes my wife was living outside Canada. But can we do something now? because we both want to move back to Canada together. Does we stand no chance for my PR approval?
Rob TO above has probably provided the best advice. I'd probably add that you better come up with a very convincing reason for why your wife had to leave Canada. Are you being processed in the new delhi visa office?
 

manishdamani271

Star Member
May 10, 2013
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Rob TO above has probably provided the best advice. I'd probably add that you better come up with a very convincing reason for why your wife had to leave Canada. Are you being processed in the new delhi visa office?
My application is processed at CPC Mississauga - FCPAPR. I am living in US.
 

manishdamani271

Star Member
May 10, 2013
72
18
PRs do not have the right to sponsor a spouse while they are not residing in Canada. PRs must be physically living in Canada to submit a family class PR app, and continue residing in Canada during processing time. This is one of the basic rules of a PR sponsoring a spouse.

The intent to move is completely irrelevant in this case.

Your only chance is for your spouse to immediately move back to Canada, submit proofs of this, and hope the visa officer reconsiders. If she doesn't, your app is guaranteed to be rejected. Even if she moves back there is a good chance the app will still be rejected since she's already obviously violated this rule.
Thank you for your reply. My wife is currently in Canada only. For a short trip. I will see if it is feasible for her to extend her stay because she don't have any job or permanent accommodation.

In case my PR application got rejected, can I apply under skilled worker through express entry? I mean does my current PR rejection will also affect my future application? sorry for lot of questions... I am bit tensed.
 

canuck_in_uk

VIP Member
May 4, 2012
31,553
7,204
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
06/12
Thank you for your reply. Yes my wife was living outside Canada. But can we do something now? because we both want to move back to Canada together. Does we stand no chance for my PR approval?
Given her extended absence, I would say there is a very good chance of refusal even if she sends proof now that she has returned to Canada. All you can do is submit the proofs and hope you get a nice VO.
 

Rob_TO

VIP Member
Nov 7, 2012
11,427
1,551
Toronto
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......
13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
Thank you for your reply. My wife is currently in Canada only. For a short trip. I will see if it is feasible for her to extend her stay because she don't have any job or permanent accommodation.

In case my PR application got rejected, can I apply under skilled worker through express entry? I mean does my current PR rejection will also affect my future application? sorry for lot of questions... I am bit tensed.
Make sure she stays in Canada now, and tell the visa office that she has permanently relocated to Canada. Submit as much proof of this as you can. If you're lucky, they will accept this and continue with your PR app processing.

If it's rejected, it will not affect any future apps. She can simply apply to sponsor you again but this time make sure she's living in Canada from the beginning of the application process, and only leave for very short/temporary vacations.