Ray of Hope - 85th Draw

[ShahidWS]

damn i created my profile on 31st dec!

Ya i had the same prob, as i had created it on 30th Dec. What is your CRS?

 

[diliprath]

Can one decline one ITA and still get new one?
Is it also possible if instead of declining it is rejected by Cic...can one make it again on her or his name or later spouse as primary

Yes. You can decline an ITA. Doing that takes you back into the pool with the same score you had with all the previous details. In my case I had to withdraw the pool entry as well and create a new entry as the detail that I wanted to change can only be done at the stage of answering the "Come to Canada" questionnaire. It wouldn't allow me to change that detail and recalculate the score in my existing entry in the pool.

Once you are back in pool after withdrawing the ITA or creating a new pool entry, you will get an ITA as everyone else if your score crosses the cutoff in any draw after that. IRCC website says that you are not guaranteed another ITA if you withdraw. What it means that your new entry may not cross the future cut offs so you can't ask IRCC for an ITA just because they provided one earlier.

CIC would decline your pool entry if you are no more eligible. This can happen for many reasons. Generally your pool entry getting ineligible does not have any impact on creation of a new entry. I got mine ineligible when I created one entry days before my 1st IELTS expiry due to 2 year validity. Had my 2nd IELTS done and created another entry. If however you got ITA I can't think of why CIC would reject it unlesss you do not apply within the provided 90 days and it expires. In this case also you can create a new entry and will be scored afresh. Until you have actually applied for PR you can create as many entries you like in your account.

If you have applied however, that is when CIC starts looking at your data and if you have mis-represented anything it is taken seriously by them and they mention you may not be allowed to apply for 5 years again and I believe it would impact even if you choose to have your spouse as primary applicant later.

 

[desmat]

Yes. You can decline an ITA. Doing that takes you back into the pool with the same score you had with all the previous details. In my case I had to withdraw the pool entry as well and create a new entry as the detail that I wanted to change can only be done at the stage of answering the "Come to Canada" questionnaire. It wouldn't allow me to change that detail and recalculate the score in my existing entry in the pool.

Once you are back in pool after withdrawing the ITA or creating a new pool entry, you will get an ITA as everyone else if your score crosses the cutoff in any draw after that. IRCC website says that you are not guaranteed another ITA if you withdraw. What it means that your new entry may not cross the future cut offs so you can't ask IRCC for an ITA just because they provided one earlier.

CIC would decline your pool entry if you are no more eligible. This can happen for many reasons. Generally your pool entry getting ineligible does not have any impact on creation of a new entry. I got mine ineligible when I created one entry days before my 1st IELTS expiry due to 2 year validity. Had my 2nd IELTS done and created another entry. If however you got ITA I can't think of why CIC would reject it unlesss you do not apply within the provided 90 days and it expires. In this case also you can create a new entry and will be scored afresh. Until you have actually applied for PR you can create as many entries you like in your account.

If you have applied however, that is when CIC starts looking at your data and if you have mis-represented anything it is taken seriously by them and they mention you may not be allowed to apply for 5 years to apply again and I believe it would impact even if you choose to have your spouse as primary applicant later.

Thanks for detailed answer ..
I asked that not because we want to misrepresent any information...actually I had worked many years ago for some years and have not worked from last 3-4 years...i didn't get even payslips that time so Its not easy to get all that documents now from that old employers so Cic may not get satisfied only with experience letter..thus was thinking shud we try it on my name or not..

 

[diliprath]

Thanks for detailed answer ..
I asked that not because we want to misrepresent any information...actually I had worked many years ago for some years and have not worked from last 3-4 years...i didn't get even payslips that time so Its not easy to get all that documents now from that old employers so Cic may not get satisfied only with experience letter..thus was thinking shud we try it on my name or not..

I understand that and the intention was not to say you mis-represented anything. Just wanted to have it cleared. If your spouse being primary applicant is resulting similar or better CRS score, then I would think that would be best. However, if you are gaining any points based on your work experience as a spouse or primary applicant, you will need to prove that by supplying supporting documents either way. If you are worried about the gap and lack of payslips and still want to claim points for your work experience, I would suggest having all these mentioned in a "Letter Of Explanation" which you are allowed to upload when you apply for PR. CIC may ask you follow up questions instead of rejecting the application straight up and you would need to take it from there. If you have any other document to prove your experience do supply all those. In the end if at all CIC rejects your application, you always have a option to create a case with them to provide your explanation as well.

 

[desmat]

I understand that and the intention was not to say you mis-represented anything. Just wanted to have it cleared. If your spouse being primary applicant is resulting similar or better CRS score, then I would think that would be best. However, if you are gaining any points based on your work experience as a spouse or primary applicant, you will need to prove that by supplying supporting documents either way. If you are worried about the gap and lack of payslips and still want to claim points for your work experience, I would suggest having all these mentioned in a "Letter Of Explanation" which you are allowed to upload when you apply for PR. CIC may ask you follow up questions instead of rejecting the application straight up and you would need to take it from there. If you have any other document to prove your experience do supply all those. In the end if at all CIC rejects your application, you always have a option to create a case with them to provide your explanation as well.

thank you again... yeah my score is better with my experience.. we have some emails and even one old form16 i found (but not for all years).... we have to decide soon...

anyways as you said by any chance anyone is rejected then they get a chance to explain.. but is it possible to create a new application with spouse as new primary applicant if one does not want to delay with explanations after that

 

[diliprath]

thank you again... yeah my score is better with my experience.. we have some emails and even one old form16 i found (but not for all years).... we have to decide soon...

anyways as you said by any chance anyone is rejected then they get a chance to explain.. but is it possible to create a new application with spouse as new primary applicant if one does not want to delay with explanations after that

You can absolutely create a fresh application with spouse as primary applicant. You would still need to support your work experience though if you are claiming points for that. I do not think payslips are mandatory. Your form16 and experience letter should work fine. As a backup I would suggest to get an email from any colleague who is still working there from their official email detailing your roles. Again, without these just with your form16 and experience letter also they may not ask additional questions but its best to get whatever data you can.

Here is what I suggest. Try to get as much documentation you can for your experience. Keep your pool entry as it is. Ask your spouse to create another account and create an entry with him as primary applicant and you as dependent.

Wait for an ITA either his or yours. If both get ITA, go by your spouse application and withdraw yours. If that entry has a too low CRS then go ahead and apply with yours when you get ITA and provide explanation.

If you can share your scores in either scenario it will help people to suggest if the scores are realistic to go with your spouse as primary.

 

[Harshitagupta]

Hi All,

I got ITA on 14th march, and in the process of uploading documents, I am employed in the same company since the beginning, but I was working in a different country . In work history i have mentioned it separately as
2012 - 2015 (india)
2015 - 2017 (Brazil)
2017 -till Date (India)

So while uploading documents , its asking for 3 different Employment reference documents for these 3 entries. But since its the same company I have only 1 employment reference. Please suggest what should be done in this case. Should I upload the same documents in all 3. Or should I change my work history ?

 

[Aarti123]

Yes. You can decline an ITA. Doing that takes you back into the pool with the same score you had with all the previous details. In my case I had to withdraw the pool entry as well and create a new entry as the detail that I wanted to change can only be done at the stage of answering the "Come to Canada" questionnaire. It wouldn't allow me to change that detail and recalculate the score in my existing entry in the pool.

Once you are back in pool after withdrawing the ITA or creating a new pool entry, you will get an ITA as everyone else if your score crosses the cutoff in any draw after that. IRCC website says that you are not guaranteed another ITA if you withdraw. What it means that your new entry may not cross the future cut offs so you can't ask IRCC for an ITA just because they provided one earlier.

CIC would decline your pool entry if you are no more eligible. This can happen for many reasons. Generally your pool entry getting ineligible does not have any impact on creation of a new entry. I got mine ineligible when I created one entry days before my 1st IELTS expiry due to 2 year validity. Had my 2nd IELTS done and created another entry. If however you got ITA I can't think of why CIC would reject it unlesss you do not apply within the provided 90 days and it expires. In this case also you can create a new entry and will be scored afresh. Until you have actually applied for PR you can create as many entries you like in your account.

If you have applied however, that is when CIC starts looking at your data and if you have mis-represented anything it is taken seriously by them and they mention you may not be allowed to apply for 5 years again and I believe it would impact even if you choose to have your spouse as primary applicant later.

So if you do over your ielts exam you have to create a new profile or that's online for expired ones? I thought you could just update the current one?

 

[Wandering Mind]

Dear friends,

Some tagging first to garner attention from old (mostly inactive now) pals:

@andieangel @lino82 @KingKurly @tjsecondtry @Wandering Mind @Karnesh @Ornela Forsyte @ivancabrer @trumprefugee @arunroy007 @BillHyatt @AlliBatista @mqamar1994 @shaun75 @TanakaM @Wacky1.nash @sundar17feb99 @gurpreet.ts @abhishek_89 @baka and may others that I may have missed (sorry I got a year older in December 2017).

Some other members may also remember us as the first RoH couple: @xibalban and @iamxty

It gives me immense pleasure to share that we just had a baby boy today .
Yes, we received our PPR today . Would not have achieved this milestone without the support from this forum and all our pals here. Thank you all.

We are PNP-Outland (Ontario) and our VO is Singapore, and we had just completed our 6 month processing time. I must take this opportunity to publicly thank my persevering wife @iamxty, who did all the hard work right from PNP application, to adding me as a dependent midway in the application, managing the PoF, staying awake late multiple nights to compile an impeccable document kit, and instilling hope and courage during the nerve-wrecking post ITA process; besides other personal pains that she bore to realise our Canadian dream. If it wasn't for her, I wouldn't be here today sharing this good news. My heartfelt gratitude to her and lots of love!! I feel blessed to have her as my soulmate .

To all those awaiting their ITAs, I wish you the very best. Never give up hope, learn from @iamxty and members like @tjsecondtry. There is always scope for improvement, and there is always an opportunity awaiting; to those awaiting their PPRs, just hang in there. It's just a matter of time. CIC really likes to test your endurance levels, so don't get frustrated.

With best regards,

See you again!!!

That's awesome news! Congratulations to you both!

 

[CanDreamz2018]

Hi All,

I got ITA on 14th march, and in the process of uploading documents, I am employed in the same company since the beginning, but I was working in a different country . In work history i have mentioned it separately as
2012 - 2015 (india)
2015 - 2017 (Brazil)
2017 -till Date (India)

So while uploading documents , its asking for 3 different Employment reference documents for these 3 entries. But since its the same company I have only 1 employment reference. Please suggest what should be done in this case. Should I upload the same documents in all 3. Or should I change my work history ?

Hi @Harshitagupta ,

Was it for 3 different position in the same company? I also worked for same company for 8 years and got multiple slots based on the roles I provided.I submitted different docs for each position with roles and responsibilities for each, even though they were similar

 

[Harshitagupta]

Hi @Harshitagupta ,

Was it for 3 different position in the same company? I also worked for same company for 8 years and got multiple slots based on the roles I provided.I submitted different docs for each position with roles and responsibilities for each, even though they were similar

It for the same position and role, but in 2 different locations. The employment reference mentions, all locations with dates as well.

 

[move2NA2018]

People, got the ITA today. CRS is 450.

 

[move2NA2018]

https://moving2canada.com/express-entry-draw/

The cutoff was 446 for today's surprise draw.

 

[Dexter Sharon]

Hello family, cut off was 446, my CRC was 449. Received my ITA today. My first ITA was in December. I submitted my application for PR in March, this month. Observed some mistakes and withdrew my application this month. Now that I have another ITA, can I submit my application now. Cos, I haven't got any reply of my withdrawal nor any refund yet. So won't have two applications in the pool. Secondly, my first reference number was written on my medicals, how do I switch it? Or do I do another medicals? Thanks a lot..

 

[Karnesh]

Dear friends,

Some tagging first to garner attention from old (mostly inactive now) pals:

@andieangel @lino82 @KingKurly @tjsecondtry @Wandering Mind @Karnesh @Ornela Forsyte @ivancabrer @trumprefugee @arunroy007 @BillHyatt @AlliBatista @mqamar1994 @shaun75 @TanakaM @Wacky1.nash @sundar17feb99 @gurpreet.ts @abhishek_89 @baka and may others that I may have missed (sorry I got a year older in December 2017).

Some other members may also remember us as the first RoH couple: @xibalban and @iamxty

It gives me immense pleasure to share that we just had a baby boy today .
Yes, we received our PPR today . Would not have achieved this milestone without the support from this forum and all our pals here. Thank you all.

We are PNP-Outland (Ontario) and our VO is Singapore, and we had just completed our 6 month processing time. I must take this opportunity to publicly thank my persevering wife @iamxty, who did all the hard work right from PNP application, to adding me as a dependent midway in the application, managing the PoF, staying awake late multiple nights to compile an impeccable document kit, and instilling hope and courage during the nerve-wrecking post ITA process; besides other personal pains that she bore to realise our Canadian dream. If it wasn't for her, I wouldn't be here today sharing this good news. My heartfelt gratitude to her and lots of love!! I feel blessed to have her as my soulmate .

To all those awaiting their ITAs, I wish you the very best. Never give up hope, learn from @iamxty and members like @tjsecondtry. There is always scope for improvement, and there is always an opportunity awaiting; to those awaiting their PPRs, just hang in there. It's just a matter of time. CIC really likes to test your endurance levels, so don't get frustrated.

With best regards,

See you again!!!

Congratulations Guys.!