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Apply for Sponsorship and Visitor Visa at the Same Time?

kcward7

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Hello to all!

I'm thinking about applying for family sponsorship and visitor visa for my wife at the same time. Here's my situation:

My wife and I got married in 2010 and gave birth to our daughter in 2013. We got legally divorced in 2014 in order to buy a second home. (In some big cities in China, to stablize housing price, a family is allowed to buy only one home. So it's quite common for couples there to get divorced in order to buy a second home). We still lived together like before except that we didn't have legal marriage status.

In 2016 I started my application for Express Entry. We did not get remarried and my wife was not included in the application because my point would be higher if I was single. So finally my daughter and I were granted PR and I came to Canada last year.

My wife and I got remarried at the beginning of this year. Now I'm gathering forms and documents to apply to sponsor my wife. I have several questions for my case, which I understand is a bit tricky.

1. A friend of mine, who is an ICCRC consultant, told me that instead of telling the truth, I should make our divorce look like a "genuine" one. Otherwise, the visa officer could reject the application on the ground that our remarriage was purely for the purpose of immigration. What do you guys think about this strategy?

2. I'd like to apply for a visitor visa for my wife at the same time so that we can be together sooner in Canada. Will the rejection of this visitor visa affect the sponsorship application? Should I submit my sponsorship application before the visitor visa applicaiton?

Thanks for your time and advice!
You should never lie on an application. This is fraudulent, and CIC takes this very seriously.

Not sure what kind of advice you got.
 

kcward7

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Thanks for your reply. Then how do you think I should jusify my divorce and remarriage? I should have listed my wife as my defacto spouse when I applied for EE at the first place, but I didn't. So my own application was based on a lie.
Senior members should weigh in. You already lied on one application and you were prepared to lie on another...this is messy, and you're going to face significant problems, in my opinion. I don't know what to advise and I don't want to provide any misinformation to you.
 

ywz_cool

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Senior members should weigh in. You already lied on one application and you were prepared to lie on another...this is messy, and you're going to face significant problems, in my opinion. I don't know what to advise and I don't want to provide any misinformation to you.
Thanks. How about my second question? Can I apply for a visitor visa so that my wife and I can at least be together.
 

YVR123

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Your divorce in 2014 was a divorce for convenience for financial reason (to purchase a house?). And you remarried at a time that is convenient for you (not before you get your PR so you get better points for PR application and after you landed and wanted to sponsor her).

I won't suggest lying again in your application. Your addresses, background information and timeline will revive that.

This is a very complicated case. And I don't have answer for your other questions.

You can sure apply for visitor visa for your wife BUT she needs to show strong tie to her home country. And demonstrate that she is a true visitor. That's not easy having a husband and a child in Canada.
 

Forte

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You still lived together after the ''divorce''? Wouldn't that have made you common law at the time of your EE application?
 
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YVR123

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You still lived together after the ''divorce''? Wouldn't that have made you common law at the time of your EE application?
Right. And he didn't include her in his EE application which makes her excluded for being sponsored as a spouse.
 
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ywz_cool

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You still lived together? Wouldn't that have made you common law at the time of your EE application?
We still lived together after the divorce, so yes, we were common law. The problem is that I didn't list her as my common law partner when applying for my EE. I didn't know much about the canadian immigration system and my then immigration consultant adviced me to apply as a single.
 

Forte

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We still lived together after the divorce, so yes, we were common law. The problem is that I didn't list her as my common law partner when applying for my EE. I didn't know much about the canadian immigration system and my then immigration consultant adviced me to apply as a single.
there's no easy way out of this.
 

ywz_cool

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Mar 9, 2018
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Your divorce in 2014 was a divorce for convenience for financial reason (to purchase a house?). And you remarried at a time that is convenient for you (not before you get your PR so you get better points for PR application and after you landed and wanted to sponsor her).

I won't suggest lying again in your application. Your addresses, background information and timeline will revive that.

This is a very complicated case. And I don't have answer for your other questions.

You can sure apply for visitor visa for your wife BUT she needs to show strong tie to her home country. And demonstrate that she is a true visitor. That's not easy having a husband and a child in Canada.
By the way, my daughter is still in China because I can't take care of her alone while working.
 

cuprium

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there's no easy way out of this.
This may lead to further lies even in little details like address history and its gonna be very bad if found out. He may just have to start the whole process all over again. Some immigration consultants give bad advise.
 
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ywz_cool

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This may lead to a cascade of lies. Having to lie about not living together, which would lead to further lies in little details like address history etc. If you are found out, which you pr
Yes I can imagine
This may lead to further lies even in little details like address history and its gonna be very bad if found out. He may just have to start the whole process all over again. Some immigration consultants give bad advise.
Sigh... so upset
 

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Hello to all!

I'm thinking about applying for family sponsorship and visitor visa for my wife at the same time. Here's my situation:

My wife and I got married in 2010 and gave birth to our daughter in 2013. We got legally divorced in 2014 in order to buy a second home. (In some big cities in China, to stablize housing price, a family is allowed to buy only one home. So it's quite common for couples there to get divorced in order to buy a second home). We still lived together like before except that we didn't have legal marriage status.

In 2016 I started my application for Express Entry. We did not get remarried and my wife was not included in the application because my point would be higher if I was single. So finally my daughter and I were granted PR and I came to Canada last year.

My wife and I got remarried at the beginning of this year. Now I'm gathering forms and documents to apply to sponsor my wife. I have several questions for my case, which I understand is a bit tricky.

1. A friend of mine, who is an ICCRC consultant, told me that instead of telling the truth, I should make our divorce look like a "genuine" one. Otherwise, the visa officer could reject the application on the ground that our remarriage was purely for the purpose of immigration. What do you guys think about this strategy?

2. I'd like to apply for a visitor visa for my wife at the same time so that we can be together sooner in Canada. Will the rejection of this visitor visa affect the sponsorship application? Should I submit my sponsorship application before the visitor visa applicaiton?

Thanks for your time and advice!
You committed immigration fraud and as a result, your partner is forever excluded from the Family Class and cannot be sponsored. Also note that IRCC could revoke your status for this fraud. This could have been easily avoided by simply including her as non-accompanying in your PR app, which would have granted you the same points as applying as single but allowed you to sponsor her later.

If your wife cannot qualify to immigrate to Canada on her own, then your choices are to return to your country or renounce your PR and reapply again with her properly included.
 
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ywz_cool

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You committed immigration fraud and as a result, your partner is forever excluded from the Family Class and cannot be sponsored. Also note that IRCC could revoke your status for this fraud. This could have been easily avoided by simply including her as non-accompanying in your PR app, which would have granted you the same points as applying as single but allowed you to sponsor her later.

If your wife cannot qualify to immigrate to Canada on her own, then your choices are to return to your country or renounce your PR and reapply again with her properly included.
Yes including her as non-accompanying was the right thing to do. My consultant never gave me this advice. So upset