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Out of status- CBSA visit. Exclusion order..help!!

Missrebel801

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Hello everyone, I have scoured the threads for similar stories to get an idea, but every story seems to have a bit of a different twist than ours so its hard to tell.
I'm hoping someone can help.
Here is our story,

My husband came here to Canada from Jamaica on a work permit. We met while he was here and yes, he overstayed. He is now past the point to really do anything about his status. In July 2017 we got married. On March 1 2018 CBSA came to my door. They found him by him doing his fingerprints for police certificates. How ironic.
Anyways, he wasnt home so they asked me to have him turn himself in the next morning.He told us to bring our sponsorship app (it was days away from being sent in as we were only waiting on the police certificate from jamaica) and his passport and marriage certificate. When we went there he was issued a paper that was dated almost a year ago that said he was deemed inadmissible due to overstay (first we heard of it). Then he was also given an exclusion order.

Now, this is where Im confused. The agent told us he was able to stay and he would be placed under conditions
1..report once a month
2 report any change of address immeditely
3 keep the peace and be of good behaviour

He also stated that he had to do a risk assessment before they could send him home. He said that process starts once he sends the paperwork to toronto. He said he was not going to do that until after his first sign in meeting which he actually set for April 5. He said he was doing that for us, to buy us some time to get our application in. He also told me that the fact we have a paper saying he was not admissible, that wont affect the application. He mentioned that this risk assessment was automatic and if he was approved we would be fine and he could stay. If not, he would have to leave unless something happened with his app by that time. He even mentioned the deferral of 60 days.
That all seemed fine to me but after reading threads and forums, im seeing that people are saying a risk assessement is something You have to apply for urself ( but he told us toronto will call us and we have to go)
Also im reading that people are saying that interview we went to was probably the pre risk assesemnt meeting...he didnt say that and didnt give us anything about pre risk or risk assessement. only the exclusion order. people are saying that the 60 day deferral does not apply to anyone who did not have app in before being given the pre risk assessment order. and that is what those call in meetings are. Is that what it was for us or is it this thing he said we will be called into toronto for once he sends off the paper work?

When he explained everything, it seemed so simple but now im scared he was leaving stuff out, the way to go about things and things we may need to be doing throughout this process.

Does anyone know about this? This agent made it seem so simple and easy and that as long as we get the app in everything will be ok. He even said 90 percent of the time things work out.
But I dont know, i cant see it really being that easy and cant help myself not to trust what a CBSA officer says when it is his job to remove people in the first place

Any opinions or advice.
 

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It sounds as if the CBSA officer was giving you a break. You should make good use of it to get your "inland" sponsorship application in as soon as possible. This should be an absolute priority for you. Once that's in the system it may offer a tiny bit of protection against a deportation.
 

Missrebel801

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It sounds as if the CBSA officer was giving you a break. You should make good use of it to get your "inland" sponsorship application in as soon as possible. This should be an absolute priority for you. Once that's in the system it may offer a tiny bit of protection against a deportation.
Exactly what i was thinking at first. He was super nice and made it sound like he was giving us a hand by stalling putting in the paperwork to toronto for the risk assesmnt he said toronto will call us in. but im reading other people say they sertve u with an application TO APPLY for risk assessment so im confused. i dont want to miss anything we are supposed to do on our end but he made it sound like it will be automatic
 

Missrebel801

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Exactly what i was thinking at first. He was super nice and made it sound like he was giving us a hand by stalling putting in the paperwork to toronto for the risk assesmnt he said toronto will call us in. but im reading other people say they sertve u with an application TO APPLY for risk assessment so im confused. i dont want to miss anything we are supposed to do on our end but he made it sound like it will be automatic
and if giving a break why would they issue exclusion order to begin with lol...will now being inadmissible affect cic decision or can we still be approved
 

Missrebel801

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Exactly what i was thinking at first. He was super nice and made it sound like he was giving us a hand by stalling putting in the paperwork to toronto for the risk assesmnt he said toronto will call us in. but im reading other people say they sertve u with an application TO APPLY for risk assessment so im confused. i dont want to miss anything we are supposed to do on our end but he made it sound like it will be automatic
also, even tho he told us to bring my application that he wanted to make a copy for their records, in the end he never asked for it and when i aslked him if he wanted it he said no..he even forgot about marriage certificate which he said was mostimportant tobrng, and when i asked him if he wanted that he again said no, its ok...then changed his mind and said , actually ya, let me make a copy. but he seemed to have no interest in seeing the things he originally told me were important to brong which makes me nervous. i would have rathered he seen the app to see it was basically complete except for one document
 

Missrebel801

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Ok i think i just figured one part out....i was confused about the risk assesssment application that we did not recieve and my husband pointed somethng out. that is what he said he will give him at his first sign in appointment if toronto doesnt call us before then, I guess thats how hes helping us out. if im correct, maybe by him not providing the application at that meeting, technically he wasnt ' served; so therefore the 60 day deferral would still work if application gets in fast, but once he serves us in a month, if app isnt in we will no longer be eligible for the deferrals...does this sound right to anyone? he did say he was waiting to give us the application for risk assesment until next meeting next month . Sorry lol
 

jeet07

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Hi guys,
I just don’t know from where to start and where to end. I have been out of status since February 2017 and I sent my file in for sponsor family case November 2017 for TRP , PR., and open work permit and I got file number and send schedule A but Cbsa sent me letter on feb 15 to come for interview March 7 . M so scared don’t know what to do .
 

Missrebel801

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Hi guys,
I just don’t know from where to start and where to end. I have been out of status since February 2017 and I sent my file in for sponsor family case November 2017 for TRP , PR., and open work permit and I got file number and send schedule A but Cbsa sent me letter on feb 15 to come for interview March 7 . M so scared don’t know what to do .
Sorry I cant offer much help. As u see, we are kind of in the same boat. Except atleast you already had your application in. So you might be a bit better off than us at this point. I would be interested in following what happens with your situation and u can feel free to follow me if u like. Good luck !
 

jeet07

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Sorry I cant offer much help. As u see, we are kind of in the same boat. Except atleast you already had your application in. So you might be a bit better off than us at this point. I would be interested in following what happens with your situation and u can feel free to follow me if u like. Good luck !
Thank you I will
Definitely message you what happens at the interview. Good luck to u as well
 
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Missrebel801

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Thank you I will
Definitely message you what happens at the interview. Good luck to u as well
Sounds good. Ty and I will keep u posted as well
 
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OP_POP

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If you follow rules and laws here, you wouldn't get to this point.

You need to submit your sponsorship application and hope for the best.
 
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david_gat88

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Hi.

I sent my application in July 25th 2017, got a call from CBSA on February 20 2018. Went for an interview on February 22 2018.

This is what happened to me.

I also have an exclusion order which will be in effect if they reject my spousal application, they offered me the PRRA in the exact same day, which I didn't fill out as I didn't have any evidence, didn't want to waste any time. The deferral of removal will protect you from being deported as long as your app is in place, so hurry up and send it. So far, I am still waiting for a Decision made on my application, I am almost on my 16th month.

So according to that, their policy is, you are fine while the application is in process. Just follow all the rules, do not miss any day at the CBSA office, if you can't make it, call and explain. You'll be fine. Good luck.
 

Betabr

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Hi.

I sent my application in July 25th 2017, got a call from CBSA on February 20 2018. Went for an interview on February 22 2018.

This is what happened to me.

I also have an exclusion order which will be in effect if they reject my spousal application, they offered me the PRRA in the exact same day, which I didn't fill out as I didn't have any evidence, didn't want to waste any time. The deferral of removal will protect you from being deported as long as your app is in place, so hurry up and send it. So far, I am still waiting for a Decision made on my application, I am almost on my 16th month.

So according to that, their policy is, you are fine while the application is in process. Just follow all the rules, do not miss any day at the CBSA office, if you can't make it, call and explain. You'll be fine. Good luck.
Hi, thanks for sharing your experience. Do you have an idea of why CBSA called you? Did they give you an exclusion order at the interview? What is PRRA? Thanks.
 

david_gat88

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Hi, thanks for sharing your experience. Do you have an idea of why CBSA called you? Did they give you an exclusion order at the interview? What is PRRA? Thanks.
Because I have been out of status. Yes, the exclusion order was handed to me in the interview. PRRA is the Pre-removal risk assessment. Are you in the same situation?