So I became a permanent resident in August 2015 but unfortunately haven't been able to fully move to Canada yet and have generally just been making very short trips due to circumstances beyond my control. I do plan to fully move to Canda in the summer of this year. Could someone please give me their opinion of when latest (when exactly) I should move back to Canada this year to avoid losing my permanent resident status? My PR status expires sometime in 2020 and I don't want to risk being considered having already spent three years out of the country.
Could Someone Help Me Calculate This? (PR Requirements)
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Not really enough information where you say you have made very short trips given they all count towards the residency obligation even a few days.
So just assume you landed in August 1 2015 then between that date and July 31 2020 you must accumulate 730 days in Canada. If you return as late as 31 July 2018 then without assuming any days in Canada since 2015 you must stay put in Canada without leaving until 31 July 2020 to meet the RO. Remember initial residency obligation is based on the 5 years from landing and not the date the PR card was issued
With such a long time away any time you leave and reenter after this date (31 July 2018) until RO has been reset you risk the chance of being reported and PR revoke process being started
Assuming you have a valid PR card and you enter by end July 2018 you should have no issues entering the country and as a PR are entitled to anyway. You might get a few additional questions if you have been away a long time no way to predict but as said any time after that you might run the risk of being reported so the longer you leave it the the odds get greater.
From 1 August 2020 each time you leave Canada the 5 year period is reset at each entry, that is the 5 years preceding each entry must show 730 days in Canada so keep this in mind when you ever leave the country after 8/2020.
So just assume you landed in August 1 2015 then between that date and July 31 2020 you must accumulate 730 days in Canada. If you return as late as 31 July 2018 then without assuming any days in Canada since 2015 you must stay put in Canada without leaving until 31 July 2020 to meet the RO. Remember initial residency obligation is based on the 5 years from landing and not the date the PR card was issued
With such a long time away any time you leave and reenter after this date (31 July 2018) until RO has been reset you risk the chance of being reported and PR revoke process being started
Assuming you have a valid PR card and you enter by end July 2018 you should have no issues entering the country and as a PR are entitled to anyway. You might get a few additional questions if you have been away a long time no way to predict but as said any time after that you might run the risk of being reported so the longer you leave it the the odds get greater.
From 1 August 2020 each time you leave Canada the 5 year period is reset at each entry, that is the 5 years preceding each entry must show 730 days in Canada so keep this in mind when you ever leave the country after 8/2020.
The first 5 year period after landing as a PR is different than any period of time after that initial 5 year period.
In the first 5 years you can be outside canada for any combination of days as long as you are inside Canada for at least 730 days. Example, you land as PR. You may leave Canada immediately for 3 years and return to complete the 730 days (2 years) in that period. This because CIC recognizes that some PRs may need time back home to settle their affairs before permanently moving to Canada. 3 year absence up front is very generous.
It all changes after that first 5 year period. After the first 5 year period, any time you return to Canada from abroad, you need to be able to show 730 days in the past 5 years EACH time you reenter Canada. When you apply to renew your PR card you also must be able to show 730 days in the past 5 years.
To further the explanation above, if you landed January 1, 2015 and stayed in Canada until january1, 2017 (2 years) then left Canada and returned in December 31, 2020 you are in RO compliance and could renew your pr card. Now, if you could renew and receive your pr card the same day because the government became very efficient (aaahahahahahaha....I kill me.....); and receive your new PR card on January 1, 2021 and left Canada again the same day and returned on January 1, 2023 you ahave no longer met RO and could be subject to being reported. This is because the time from 2015 to 2017 no longer counts. Counting backwards from January 1, 2021 5 years, you only have 2 days in Canada.
Guys, please help me better understand this 5 years being reset at each entry issue. I find it very confusing. Say a person became a PR in July 2015 but has been away from Canada most of the time and only made short trips of two and a half to three weeks in July 2015 and then also in July 2016. The person fully moves to Canada in August 2018 and stays put for two years and perhaps succeeds to renew his PR card in September 2020. If that person travels out of Canada for just about three weeks to a month let's say in December 2020 and then returns, what happens at the airport? He or she would have to prove that they were in Canada for 730 days because they would now be counting backwards? I'm shocked a liberal government is carrying out such extremely difficult and conservative policies.