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Proof of citizen for my baby born abroad

Mykat

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Feb 1, 2018
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My wife and I had our first baby born in Indonesia. I’m a Canadian citizen and resident. I will be applying for proof of citizen for our baby upon return to Canada.
The application form checklist requires 2 pieces of ID. This must be my ID, not our baby ? This was confusing to me because the guide states that all questions pertain to the applicant. Can anyone shed light on this ? Much appreciated
 

thecoolguysam

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May 25, 2011
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Canada
My wife and I had our first baby born in Indonesia. I’m a Canadian citizen and resident. I will be applying for proof of citizen for our baby upon return to Canada.
The application form checklist requires 2 pieces of ID. This must be my ID, not our baby ? This was confusing to me because the guide states that all questions pertain to the applicant. Can anyone shed light on this ? Much appreciated
What's the website link you have visited regarding this?
 

hawk39

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Mar 26, 2017
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https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-0001-application-citizenship-certificate-adults-minors-proof-citizenship-section-3.html

Who may apply for a citizenship certificate?
This application form is for a person who is already a Canadian citizen and wants to obtain a citizenship certificate.

  • If you are an adult (18 years of age and over)
    • Then you are the applicant
  • If you are filing this application for a minor (a person who is under 18 years of age)
    • Then the minor is the applicant
 

Mykat

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Feb 1, 2018
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https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-0001-application-citizenship-certificate-adults-minors-proof-citizenship-section-3.html

Who may apply for a citizenship certificate?
This application form is for a person who is already a Canadian citizen and wants to obtain a citizenship certificate.

  • If you are an adult (18 years of age and over)
    • Then you are the applicant
  • If you are filing this application for a minor (a person who is under 18 years of age)
    • Then the minor is the applicant
 

Mykat

Newbie
Feb 1, 2018
4
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Hi,
This is what I saw on the Canadian government website. So this means our newborn needs 2 pieces of ID before can get proof of citizen ? One with photo.?
I saw that questions pertain to applicant of minor, but somethings not sound right for newborn to have 2 piece ID ..one with photo before can get proof of citizen. Does anyone have experience with this and can shed some light on this ?
 

thecoolguysam

VIP Member
May 25, 2011
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384
Canada
Hi,
This is what I saw on the Canadian government website. So this means our newborn needs 2 pieces of ID before can get proof of citizen ? One with photo.?
I saw that questions pertain to applicant of minor, but somethings not sound right for newborn to have 2 piece ID ..one with photo before can get proof of citizen. Does anyone have experience with this and can shed some light on this ?
I have seen some past posts where one of the parents attached his/her own ID but I am not too sure. Call CIC call centre or consult with some immigration consultant to get more information about it. Or wait for someone with the similar experience to in this forum to respond.
 

hawk39

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Mar 26, 2017
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https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/canadian-citizenship/admininistration/identity/acceptable-documents-show-identity-applications.html

Acceptable documents to show identity for citizenship applications
Applicants must be able to prove that they are who they say they are.

Among the documents required for an application, they must provide at least two documents to establish their identity. Both pieces of identification must show the applicant’s name and date of birth, and at least one document must have a photograph of the applicant.

Applicants residing outside Canada may not be able to provide Canadian identity documents. Applicants can provide foreign identity documents that are equivalent to Canadian identity documents, such as a passport or government-issued identification documents.

Children of preschool age may not be able to provide two identity documents or an identity document that includes their photo. In such cases, an explanation letter must accompany their application. Officers may use discretion for preschool age children.

Officers must consider what documents are available in the foreign country and, where possible, seek appropriate confirmation of the authenticity of the identity documents through the Canadian consular mission that has the local expertise in the foreign country.

The following are some, but not all, of the documents that can be used to establish identity. This is not a complete list and it is not in order of priority:

  • age of majority card;
  • Certificate of Indian Status card;
  • driver’s license;
  • passport;
  • health insurance identification card;
  • senior citizen’s card;
  • travel document.
Documents not accepted as a piece of identification:
  • Birth certificate: used to establish the person’s date and place of birth and can also be used to establish parentage between a child and their parent(s).
  • Document establishing Canadian citizenship status: citizenship or naturalization certificate, retention certificate and certificate of registration of birth abroad.

Per Indonesian nationality law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_nationality_law), your baby is also an Indonesian citizen until the age of 18, so you should apply for his/her Indonesian passport. That would count as one piece with the required photo. Any other document issued by the Indonesian government (excluding the birth certificate) to your baby with his/her name on it would count as the second piece of identification.