Can you ask for asylum if you are outside Canada?

[edgar23]

Hello everybody, mi name is Edgar, I am studying Electronics, I am from Venezuela and I will graduate next year...

As most of you know, the situation in Venezuela is really hard, so I will like to know if I can ask for asylum in Canada and what are the requisites for it.

When I get graduated I don't want to live here anymore, the conditions that are live are really, really hard.
I saw that if you have suffered from violations of human rights, you can ask for asylum, and that's what I want to do, I only have 17 years and I've seen a gun pointed at me four times, either for take my pertenences or to threat me...
When I go to the institute, I almost always can see someone getting stealed.
I had hepatitis A, and I was supposed to go to the hospital and check my liver, and I couldn't because the hospital told me that I need to be hospitalized and on emergency, otherwise they won't check me.

I live on the downtown of Mérida, and every night, I can hear how someone gets robbed, and the police arrives 30 minutes later, and all the services are horrible, the salary is not enough, it doesn't matter how much money you win, it's not enough to eat correctly, and even if you have the money, you will have to wait on lines of 5 hours at least and according to your ID's final number, you can buy some days.

The water and electricity services don't work, they fail a lot and it's unpredictable when they are going to fail, you can suffer of cuts of it, and can be for hours or even days, no one knows...

On resume, what I see and live in Venezuela is insecurity, lack of food and medicines, services like water and electricity malfunctioning and negligents.

I don't want to be here anymore, I don't want to go to the streets without knowing if I am going to get home OK.

If someone can help me on this, that would be really awesome, and I will be very thankful for it...
Thanks for reading and for your time...

 

[scylla]

If you want to request asylum from outside of Canada, you first have to move out of your home country. Next, once you are in another country, you would need to be officially recognized as a refugee by UNHCR or a similar referral organization.

You can't apply while in Venezuela. So the first step would be to permanently leave Venezuela.

 

[Eshakhan]

Good Afternoon!!!

I m from Pakistan , my case is like that one, i want protection inside Canada as a refugees due to one of past incident happened with me in Pakistan, guide me the process.

 

[scylla]

Good Afternoon!!!

I m from Pakistan , my case is like that one, i want protection inside Canada as a refugees due to one of past incident happened with me in Pakistan, guide me the process.

If you want to apply for protection from inside of Canada, then your first step is to obtain an approved TRV (tourist visa).

 

[en busca de refugio]

¿Qué documentos tengo que adjuntar para solicitar refugio en Canadá? Soy de venezuela cual seria mejor aplicar refugio desde aqui (venezuela) o estando en territorio de Canada ? Tengo una visa de turista para Canadá en el pasaporte

 

[canuck78]

You will need to prove that you fear for your life in Venezuela. You need to be in Canada to apply for refugee status. Otherwise you need to be in another country and register as a refugee with UNHCR. Since you already have a tourist visa you can come to Canada. I believe many airlines have stopped flying out of Venezuela so you will probably need to fly out of another country. Sorry I can read Spanish but can only write back in English.

 

[en busca de refugio]

Can you apply for a refuge in Canada having dual citizenship? I was born in PERU, but I grew up, I studied and I worked in Venezuela, in summary I'm Peruvian- Venezuelan.With this Venezuelan government I'm going to lose my business that I have, because the crisis situation in economy, food and security Life does not exist, I have the Threat of death by government collectives. Travel to PERU but I do not have many opportunities in that country there is much racism and homophobia on the part of your society.

 

[canuck78]

Thanks for translating.. I read your posting in Spanish in my e-mail and I am impressed with how much Spanish I have retained. Your dual citizenship will be an issue. You can technically move to Peru and live in peace. Although it may not be ideal your life will not be under threat and you would be considered more of an economic immigrant.

 

[paulinobarreiro]

Can i apply for a refuge in Canada having dual citizenship? I was born and i have studied in Venezuela, where my life is in risk all day, i dont want to die with this comunism, but i have Portuguese nationality too. The refuge in Portugal is limited and poor, i have another dreams, i am a professional. Thanks to answer.

 

[scylla]

Can i apply for a refuge in Canada having dual citizenship? I was born and i have studied in Venezuela, where my life is in risk all day, i dont want to die with this comunism, but i have Portuguese nationality too. The refuge in Portugal is limited and poor, i have another dreams, i am a professional. Thanks to answer.

Yes - you can apply for refugee status if you have dual citizenship. However you'll need to prove that you meet refugee requirements in both countries - meaning that your life is in danger in both places.

Your claim is guaranteed to be refused since Portugal is a perfectly safe country and there is nothing stopping you from living there now.

 

[Rob_TO]

Can i apply for a refuge in Canada having dual citizenship? I was born and i have studied in Venezuela, where my life is in risk all day, i dont want to die with this comunism, but i have Portuguese nationality too. The refuge in Portugal is limited and poor, i have another dreams, i am a professional. Thanks to answer.

Agreed with above, due your Portuguese citizenship you have effectively zero chance to be accepted as a refugee in Canada. Any such claim would most likely end in rejection and you being deported from Canada.

Having limited work opportunities in Portugal is most definitely NOT a valid refugee claim.

 

[rish888]

The refuge in Portugal is limited and poor, i have another dreams, i am a professional.

Portugal is a European Union country. As such, not only are you a citizen of Portugal, you are a citizen of the European Union. This gives you work and residence rights in every single EU country. (No need for permits, visas, nothing. Simply get a job and move.)

You would need to show that you won't be safe in the 20 something EU countries. (pretty much impossible unless you're the exiled head of Catalonia, and even then it's real difficult.)

The job situation in Portugal may not favor your qualifications, but Portugal is definitely not in an economic/security crisis and given the diversity of the European economy I'm sure if you expand your job search EU-wide you can find something suitable to your qualifications.

just fyi, one needs to be extremely luckily to have citizenship from stable, economically secure, Western democracy. You won the lottery of birth. The fact that Portugal is in the EU, which practically makes you a citizen of ~30 countries, is just icing on the cake. There are billions of people around the world who would give an arm and a leg for a new life in the country that you characterize as undesirable.

It's always good to be fortunate for what you have, especially when what you have is the 3rd most powerful passport in the world.

 

[electronico]

Will anyone know, I have Peruvian and Venezuelan citizenship will I have an opportunity to apply for refuge in Canada?

He has been threatened with death by the "Colectivos" that work for the Venezuelan government for being against his policies and they have touched me by giving me physical damages against me, such as the beatings on my body. I have evidence of a forensic doctor in Venezuela in recent years and this year 2018 my proper properties are searched.

I traveled last year to PERU, to ask for refuge from the ministry of foreign relations, the prosecutor's office, the ombudsman's office in Lima-Peru and they do not want to receive my request for protection, Peruvian institutions inquire that the threats and damages were not in Peru. I have proof of my damages documents that I did not want to receive in the Peruvian prosecutor's office.

The threats continue from Venezuela to Peru, with which they will send me to kill if I do not formally give my properties, because the Chavistas collectives have friends who migrated to Peru who can do the job of assassinating me to take over all the work that cost me to build my properties ..

Even so, I am afraid that I will not be in Peru, because the vast majority of Venezuelans who emigrate arrive in Peru without a passport, without a tourist visa, without immigration control, and with good people and hired assassins.

Make a consultation with a lawyer in Peru, recommended me to migrate to a country with difficult access to tourist visa or entry visa, as is the case in developed countries such as Canada.

I need your guidance please if they respond.






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[vensak]

Will anyone know, I have Peruvian and Venezuelan citizenship will I have an opportunity to apply for refuge in Canada?

He has been threatened with death by the "Colectivos" that work for the Venezuelan government for being against his policies and they have touched me by giving me physical damages against me, such as the beatings on my body. I have evidence of a forensic doctor in Venezuela in recent years and this year 2018 my proper properties are searched.

I traveled last year to PERU, to ask for refuge from the ministry of foreign relations, the prosecutor's office, the ombudsman's office in Lima-Peru and they do not want to receive my request for protection, Peruvian institutions inquire that the threats and damages were not in Peru. I have proof of my damages documents that I did not want to receive in the Peruvian prosecutor's office.

The threats continue from Venezuela to Peru, with which they will send me to kill if I do not formally give my properties, because the Chavistas collectives have friends who migrated to Peru who can do the job of assassinating me to take over all the work that cost me to build my properties ..

Even so, I am afraid that I will not be in Peru, because the vast majority of Venezuelans who emigrate arrive in Peru without a passport, without a tourist visa, without immigration control, and with good people and hired assassins.

Make a consultation with a lawyer in Peru, recommended me to migrate to a country with difficult access to tourist visa or entry visa, as is the case in developed countries such as Canada.

I need your guidance please if they respond.






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If you have double nationality, then move to Peru and that's it. If there will be evidence of the threats in Peru as well, contact the local police again and ask for protection the system there first.
of course a country cannot do much with what can happen in other country (other than to extract you from that country, which you already did by yourself).

From what you say, you have rather low chance of success, because you did not really try to move to Peru, establish your life there as well.
In addition you did not mention any evidence of threats in Peru or how you dealt about such evidence with the local police.

 

[Buletruck]

Agreed. The expectation will be that you move to the country where you hold second citizenship. IMO You would need to prove that there is well founded fear in both countries before a claim could be successfully approved. Without having made the effort in Peru, it seems unlikely a claim would be successful m