What to put in this application field

[Paladin]

Hello everyone,

To begin with, I just want to say that I have been a resident in Canada for almost 11 years, and due to a near constant quagmire of stupidity and neglect from my Lawyer, I have not been able to obtain a citizenship due to an extreme delay in obtaining my permanent residency (He assured me it would be the first quarter of 2011 at one point, but the application never left his office until 2012 and even then his neglect was legendary to the point that the government contacted me directly instead of speaking to. I never heard a word from him regarding ANY of my applications). I obtained my PR in 2014 and due to the recent change in law, I was technically eligible to apply for citizenship as of Oct 2017. I have not been able to submit my application due to one issue that occurred during the extreme delay in obtaining my permanent residency and my lawyer's near constant neglect.

I arrived in Canada as a student, I graduated in 2010 and I obtained a temporary work permit that was due to expire in July, 2013. My lawyer assured me that it would all be taken care of in the time from July, 2013 to Jan 31st, 2014 when my work permit expired and I had no idea what my status is. He told me I had 'implied status' but apparently an extension of my work permit or temporary residency was rejected (likely because I was accepted as a PR, and I just had to make my landing, which I did on Feb 1st, 2014), but then he told me that from the time from July 23rd, 2013 to Jan 31st 2014 I had 'no status' in Canada.

The problem with this is, that in the field that is asking for my status from the before I got my permanent residency, the fiels list Visitor, Temporary Worker, International student, Temporary Resident Permit Holder, and Protected Person. None of these fit my description.

What do I put in this field? I've been trying to get an answer for this question for months and it is extremely frustrating. I don't want any problems with my citizenship application and I'm honestly tired of all the delays that have happened. I would have been a citizen as early as 2015 or 2016 if my lawyer wasn't so negligent.

 

[ChippyBoy]

I'd enter TWP & then handwrite "Implied Status" as that was your status during that time to the best of your understanding per your lawyer. If her/his delinquency in practice whilst engaged by you has been as negligent as you say, then you should write a letter of complaint to the ethics board of the jurisdiction in which s/he's licensed.

 

[scorph]

Hello everyone,

To begin with, I just want to say that I have been a resident in Canada for almost 11 years, and due to a near constant quagmire of stupidity and neglect from my Lawyer, I have not been able to obtain a citizenship due to an extreme delay in obtaining my permanent residency (He assured me it would be the first quarter of 2011 at one point, but the application never left his office until 2012 and even then his neglect was legendary to the point that the government contacted me directly instead of speaking to. I never heard a word from him regarding ANY of my applications). I obtained my PR in 2014 and due to the recent change in law, I was technically eligible to apply for citizenship as of Oct 2017. I have not been able to submit my application due to one issue that occurred during the extreme delay in obtaining my permanent residency and my lawyer's near constant neglect.

I arrived in Canada as a student, I graduated in 2010 and I obtained a temporary work permit that was due to expire in July, 2013. My lawyer assured me that it would all be taken care of in the time from July, 2013 to Jan 31st, 2014 when my work permit expired and I had no idea what my status is. He told me I had 'implied status' but apparently an extension of my work permit or temporary residency was rejected (likely because I was accepted as a PR, and I just had to make my landing, which I did on Feb 1st, 2014), but then he told me that from the time from July 23rd, 2013 to Jan 31st 2014 I had 'no status' in Canada.

The problem with this is, that in the field that is asking for my status from the before I got my permanent residency, the fiels list Visitor, Temporary Worker, International student, Temporary Resident Permit Holder, and Protected Person. None of these fit my description.

What do I put in this field? I've been trying to get an answer for this question for months and it is extremely frustrating. I don't want any problems with my citizenship application and I'm honestly tired of all the delays that have happened. I would have been a citizen as early as 2015 or 2016 if my lawyer wasn't so negligent.

I’m sorry to hear your ordeals with that lawyer.
Hope everything goes smoothly with your citizenship application.
Good luck!

 

[Paladin]

I did not know that I could hand write this. All I want is for my application to go smoothly. I will never, ever lie to the government. Becoming a Canadian citizen would be a dream come true and I don't want anything to jeopardize it.

So I fill in the application, print it and then write over the parts with another note? Is that all I need to do? Then mail it in? I want to be absolutely sure I'm doing this right.

Also I reviewed the recording of the call I had with my lawyer, he said I had 'no status' during that time. Which is different from implied status, or is it? I'm honestly confused.

 

[ChippyBoy]

I did not know that I could hand write this. All I want is for my application to go smoothly. I will never, ever lie to the government. Becoming a Canadian citizen would be a dream come true and I don't want anything to jeopardize it.

So I fill in the application, print it and then write over the parts with another note? Is that all I need to do? Then mail it in? I want to be absolutely sure I'm doing this right.

Also I reviewed the recording of the call I had with my lawyer, he said I had 'no status' during that time. Which is different from implied status, or is it? I'm honestly confused.

Hmm. It sounds strongly as though you had better get proper paid legal advice friend.

 

[Paladin]

Hmm. It sounds strongly as though you had better get proper paid legal advice friend.

So basically get another lawyer?

 

[ChippyBoy]

So basically get another lawyer?

Was your application for PR in-process in July 2013?

 

[Paladin]

Was your application for PR in-process in July 2013?

It was technically in process since 2010. My lawyer had some severe neglect that we uncovered in 2012 and my process was supposedly going smoothly at the time. I can safely answer that it was in process at that time, yes.

 

[ChippyBoy]

It was technically in process since 2010. My lawyer had some severe neglect that we uncovered in 2012 and my process was supposedly going smoothly at the time. I can safely answer that it was in process at that time, yes.

OK. Good. Were you still working in Canada between the official expiration date of your TWP (mid-2013) and your taking-up of PR in early 2014?

 

[Paladin]

OK. Good. Were you still working in Canada between the official expiration date of your TWP (mid-2013) and your taking-up of PR in early 2014?

Yes, my employer got an email from my lawyer assuring them that I was still in good legal standing. He told them I had implied status at that time. I'm still currently working at the same employer, but I might be changing jobs soon.

 

[ChippyBoy]

Yes, my employer got an email from my lawyer assuring them that I was still in good legal standing. He told them I had implied status at that time. I'm still currently working at the same employer, but I might be changing jobs soon.

OK. Great. Obtain a copy of that exact email which your lawyer had sent to your employer back in 2013 stating "Implied Status." Then you can claim "TWP under implied status" on your citizenship application form for the period mid-2013 through until you took-up PR in early 2014.

 

[Paladin]

OK. Great. Obtain a copy of that exact email which your lawyer had sent to your employer back in 2013 stating "Implied Status." Then you can claim "TWP under implied status" on your citizenship application form for the period mid-2013 through until you took-up PR in early 2014.

I'll bring that up with my lawyer when I see him next week. I just hope I see him next week.

 

[Paladin]

OK. Great. Obtain a copy of that exact email which your lawyer had sent to your employer back in 2013 stating "Implied Status." Then you can claim "TWP under implied status" on your citizenship application form for the period mid-2013 through until you took-up PR in early 2014.

I proposed that to my lawyer and he said it was a good idea. I need ot be as clear as possible that while my TWP was denied late in January of 2014, I had already been in contact with the government and had received confirmation from them that everything is OK. As far as I am concerned.