Reference-reminder: known Questionnaire forms related to Residence or Physical Presence include the following:
-- CIT 0171 which is titled "Residence Questionnaire" and generally known as "RQ," the full-blown RQ
-- CIT 0520 titled "Request for Documentary Evidence of your Residence in Canada" and generally known as "RQ-lite," a less extensive request for additional information and documentation
-- CIT 0205 titled "Physical Presence Questionnaire - Quality Assurance Exercise"
It may take some time before we can so much as infer reasonably likely answers to many of the outstanding questions, let alone actually know the answer. (Which unfortunately is not likely to abate the flow of unreliable declarations a forum like this typically endures.)
Although the title and name of the form may seem like a largely irrelevant technicality, it will be really helpful if those who receive any kind of requests related to documenting residency or physical presence let the forum know the title of the form and its formal name, including the form's date. Again, this is usually in the format: CIT #### (month-year). This will help us collectively put other information into context, help us correlate elements and identify patterns.
Even if all we learn does little more than help affected applicants understand the procedures better, that can obviate much of the worry, diminish much of the anxieties many suffer when they are the subject of these questionnaires.
There is, of course, a great deal more information which those affected can share which would also advance our collective understanding and knowledge of this process. I will attempt to draft a better focused post posing particular questions.
For example; for an example of the kind of detail requested regarding which it might be helpful for more detail:
There is a report that the CIT 0205 requests the applicant provide the name and contact information of a personal Canadian citizen reference, a person who has known the applicant for the past 2 years and can answer questions about the applicant, including as to work, school, residence, cultural or religious activities, community activities like volunteering.
Just mere confirmation that this is included or not included can help. Any further details about this, for those who have been asked to provide a personal reference, could help.
In any event, at some point in the coming days I will attempt to pose more specific questions about the content of this form. And, obviously, if anyone is willing to scan a copy of the form (personal information redacted) and share that here, that would of course help.
Clues regarding question of which forms are in use by IRCC:
I have repeatedly referenced the forms we know of, the CIT 0171 (RQ), CIT 0520 (RQ-lite), and now the CIT 0205 (PPQ - QAE).
Several of the reports do not identify which form of "RQ" they received, but call it "RQ" and reference Quality Assurance or Quality Control, thus suggesting they actually received the PPQ - QAE CIT 0205 form rather than the RQ CIT 0171 form.
On the other hand, @flyingscottie specifically references RECENTLY (relatively recently anyway) receiving the CIT 0171 form.
While reports of RQ have been sporadic in the last many months, until this quite sudden surge of PPQ, there have been enough such reports to reliably conclude that IRCC was continuing to issue RQ in some cases. I have not seen reports of the RQ-lite form (CIT 0520) for many months but I do not read every topic and many times reports are made in threads specific to the month or place application was submitted, so there may be some reports of this form still in use and there are undoubtedly a number of other posts in other threads regarding applicants getting RQ or PPQ related questionnaires. (Participants who know of any additional reports, in other topics, about any of these three questionnaires . . . going back at least three to six months, PLEASE quote such posts in this topic, or at least give a reference to the thread and date of the post. It will really help if we can consolidate information about these questionnaires.)
It is noteworthy that the form referenced by @alsaour is "CIT 0205 (05-2017) E" which shows the CIT 0205 form has been in use going back, at the least, to May this year (other posts reference CIT 0205 (11-2017), a more recent version of the PPQ).
It APPEARS that IRCC has continued to use, in at least some instances, the CIT 0171 form while during the same period it has been using CIT 0205.
Can we conclude, from this, that NO, the CIT 0205 has not replaced the standard RQ, CIT 0171?
As you suggest, @kl_king the report by @flyingscottie references an application made pursuant to the earlier rules, prior to the implementation of the 3/5 rule, and is a solitary report, and it is always risky to draw conclusions based on single sources. But it is apparent that @alsaour is also about an application under the older rules.
My GUESS, just a guess so far, is that CIT 0205 really is specific to a Quality Assurance Exercise, and thus is separate from the forms and procedures employed when there is a FOR-CAUSE RQ (RQ triggered by identification of a risk-indicator or reason-to-question-residency/presence).
Assuming my guess is correct (recognizing that as a guess the probability of it NOT being correct is fairly high), that does not preclude the current version of CIT 0171 from being very much like if not almost identical to the CIT 0205.
That also does not answer the question whether the CIT 0205 is being issued based on selection criteria (which would be comparable to a FOR-CAUSE issued RQ) despite the reference, in IRCC's communication, that the CIT 0205 is RANDOMLY used.
SPECULATION (and I do mean speculation, not even a guess): it is possible that the CIT 0205 PPQ - QAE is a replacement for what was pre-test RQ under OB 407. Those pre-test RQs were largely criteria-driven at least initially, but the selection criteria was so broad it swept huge numbers of qualified applicants into the Residency-Case-process and brought the processing of citizenship applications to a near standstill (scores and scores of applicants ended up waiting two to three years, and many suffered even longer delays). With minimal exceptions, the modified criteria were deep behind closed doors and closed curtains, so we never learned what changes were made. It is possible that this Quality Assurance Exercise is a derivative of that. It is possible that there are criteria applied which separates applicants into a pool and that there is a "RANDOM" selection of applicants from that pool. Again, this is entirely speculative.
WHY is this significant? Of interest? If what is happening is something of this sort, it is possible, perhaps even probable, that IRCC is using this QA "EXERCISE" primarily to acquire information, data, to use in composing future versions of application forms, questionnaires, and screening criteria. Obviously, IRCC will scrutinize/evaluate the information submitted by applicants to more thoroughly assess the presence calculation, to better verify the applicant's qualification for citizenship. But to approach this without elevated skepticism, without suspicion, unless there is something about the applicant's response which triggers concerns, cause for elevated skepticism or suspicion. (Such as, for example, big gaps in basic information submitted or identified discrepancies.)
That is, this could mean the QA "EXERCISE" is not likely to be problematic or result in much of a delay, at least for most of those affected.
WHY do I speculate this possibility? The Harper-era pre-test RQ program was a disaster. To my view there were two major causes for this. One was that the criteria employed was so overly broad (initially all stay-at-home spouses, all self-employed persons, all "consultants," nearly all applicants with any period of unemployment, among many others were issued pre-test RQ). The other cause was that all RQ'd cases were handled as a Residency-Case unless and until an officer concluded otherwise. This forced the huge number of pre-test RQ'd applicants into a virtual quasi-litigation stream, which of course required CIC (as it was at the time) to employ vastly more resources to those cases.
It would make sense for IRCC to recognize the mistakes made in that procedure, and to thus not subject every applicant who meets the triggering-criteria, but rather to "randomly" select a percentage of such applications. And to process these cases pursuant to Quality Control procedures and guidelines, rather than plunging all these applications into a Presence-Case procedure.
Again, the latter observations are merely my speculations. Not even a guess. Hopefully we can learn more as to what this is about and hopefully what we learn will be reassuring for the majority of applicants subject to this procedure . . . hopefully a reasonable effort to respond to the questionnaire will suffice to get the application moving on a routine processing track, resulting in little delay, no significant problems.
-- CIT 0171 which is titled "Residence Questionnaire" and generally known as "RQ," the full-blown RQ
-- CIT 0520 titled "Request for Documentary Evidence of your Residence in Canada" and generally known as "RQ-lite," a less extensive request for additional information and documentation
-- CIT 0205 titled "Physical Presence Questionnaire - Quality Assurance Exercise"
That is a key question.Is @flyingscottie the only poster here is reporting receiving the CIT 0171? This was after an interview, so from my understanding would be for the old citizenship rules. Is there a chance that CIT 0205 replaces this for all applications under the new 3/5 rules?
It may take some time before we can so much as infer reasonably likely answers to many of the outstanding questions, let alone actually know the answer. (Which unfortunately is not likely to abate the flow of unreliable declarations a forum like this typically endures.)
Although the title and name of the form may seem like a largely irrelevant technicality, it will be really helpful if those who receive any kind of requests related to documenting residency or physical presence let the forum know the title of the form and its formal name, including the form's date. Again, this is usually in the format: CIT #### (month-year). This will help us collectively put other information into context, help us correlate elements and identify patterns.
Even if all we learn does little more than help affected applicants understand the procedures better, that can obviate much of the worry, diminish much of the anxieties many suffer when they are the subject of these questionnaires.
There is, of course, a great deal more information which those affected can share which would also advance our collective understanding and knowledge of this process. I will attempt to draft a better focused post posing particular questions.
For example; for an example of the kind of detail requested regarding which it might be helpful for more detail:
There is a report that the CIT 0205 requests the applicant provide the name and contact information of a personal Canadian citizen reference, a person who has known the applicant for the past 2 years and can answer questions about the applicant, including as to work, school, residence, cultural or religious activities, community activities like volunteering.
Just mere confirmation that this is included or not included can help. Any further details about this, for those who have been asked to provide a personal reference, could help.
In any event, at some point in the coming days I will attempt to pose more specific questions about the content of this form. And, obviously, if anyone is willing to scan a copy of the form (personal information redacted) and share that here, that would of course help.
Clues regarding question of which forms are in use by IRCC:
I have repeatedly referenced the forms we know of, the CIT 0171 (RQ), CIT 0520 (RQ-lite), and now the CIT 0205 (PPQ - QAE).
Several of the reports do not identify which form of "RQ" they received, but call it "RQ" and reference Quality Assurance or Quality Control, thus suggesting they actually received the PPQ - QAE CIT 0205 form rather than the RQ CIT 0171 form.
On the other hand, @flyingscottie specifically references RECENTLY (relatively recently anyway) receiving the CIT 0171 form.
While reports of RQ have been sporadic in the last many months, until this quite sudden surge of PPQ, there have been enough such reports to reliably conclude that IRCC was continuing to issue RQ in some cases. I have not seen reports of the RQ-lite form (CIT 0520) for many months but I do not read every topic and many times reports are made in threads specific to the month or place application was submitted, so there may be some reports of this form still in use and there are undoubtedly a number of other posts in other threads regarding applicants getting RQ or PPQ related questionnaires. (Participants who know of any additional reports, in other topics, about any of these three questionnaires . . . going back at least three to six months, PLEASE quote such posts in this topic, or at least give a reference to the thread and date of the post. It will really help if we can consolidate information about these questionnaires.)
It is noteworthy that the form referenced by @alsaour is "CIT 0205 (05-2017) E" which shows the CIT 0205 form has been in use going back, at the least, to May this year (other posts reference CIT 0205 (11-2017), a more recent version of the PPQ).
It APPEARS that IRCC has continued to use, in at least some instances, the CIT 0171 form while during the same period it has been using CIT 0205.
Can we conclude, from this, that NO, the CIT 0205 has not replaced the standard RQ, CIT 0171?
As you suggest, @kl_king the report by @flyingscottie references an application made pursuant to the earlier rules, prior to the implementation of the 3/5 rule, and is a solitary report, and it is always risky to draw conclusions based on single sources. But it is apparent that @alsaour is also about an application under the older rules.
My GUESS, just a guess so far, is that CIT 0205 really is specific to a Quality Assurance Exercise, and thus is separate from the forms and procedures employed when there is a FOR-CAUSE RQ (RQ triggered by identification of a risk-indicator or reason-to-question-residency/presence).
Assuming my guess is correct (recognizing that as a guess the probability of it NOT being correct is fairly high), that does not preclude the current version of CIT 0171 from being very much like if not almost identical to the CIT 0205.
That also does not answer the question whether the CIT 0205 is being issued based on selection criteria (which would be comparable to a FOR-CAUSE issued RQ) despite the reference, in IRCC's communication, that the CIT 0205 is RANDOMLY used.
SPECULATION (and I do mean speculation, not even a guess): it is possible that the CIT 0205 PPQ - QAE is a replacement for what was pre-test RQ under OB 407. Those pre-test RQs were largely criteria-driven at least initially, but the selection criteria was so broad it swept huge numbers of qualified applicants into the Residency-Case-process and brought the processing of citizenship applications to a near standstill (scores and scores of applicants ended up waiting two to three years, and many suffered even longer delays). With minimal exceptions, the modified criteria were deep behind closed doors and closed curtains, so we never learned what changes were made. It is possible that this Quality Assurance Exercise is a derivative of that. It is possible that there are criteria applied which separates applicants into a pool and that there is a "RANDOM" selection of applicants from that pool. Again, this is entirely speculative.
WHY is this significant? Of interest? If what is happening is something of this sort, it is possible, perhaps even probable, that IRCC is using this QA "EXERCISE" primarily to acquire information, data, to use in composing future versions of application forms, questionnaires, and screening criteria. Obviously, IRCC will scrutinize/evaluate the information submitted by applicants to more thoroughly assess the presence calculation, to better verify the applicant's qualification for citizenship. But to approach this without elevated skepticism, without suspicion, unless there is something about the applicant's response which triggers concerns, cause for elevated skepticism or suspicion. (Such as, for example, big gaps in basic information submitted or identified discrepancies.)
That is, this could mean the QA "EXERCISE" is not likely to be problematic or result in much of a delay, at least for most of those affected.
WHY do I speculate this possibility? The Harper-era pre-test RQ program was a disaster. To my view there were two major causes for this. One was that the criteria employed was so overly broad (initially all stay-at-home spouses, all self-employed persons, all "consultants," nearly all applicants with any period of unemployment, among many others were issued pre-test RQ). The other cause was that all RQ'd cases were handled as a Residency-Case unless and until an officer concluded otherwise. This forced the huge number of pre-test RQ'd applicants into a virtual quasi-litigation stream, which of course required CIC (as it was at the time) to employ vastly more resources to those cases.
It would make sense for IRCC to recognize the mistakes made in that procedure, and to thus not subject every applicant who meets the triggering-criteria, but rather to "randomly" select a percentage of such applications. And to process these cases pursuant to Quality Control procedures and guidelines, rather than plunging all these applications into a Presence-Case procedure.
Again, the latter observations are merely my speculations. Not even a guess. Hopefully we can learn more as to what this is about and hopefully what we learn will be reassuring for the majority of applicants subject to this procedure . . . hopefully a reasonable effort to respond to the questionnaire will suffice to get the application moving on a routine processing track, resulting in little delay, no significant problems.