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Parents and Grandparents Sponsorship 2018

Rob_TO

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I know they have. But just think it's a strange way of assessing applicants. Cant wrap my head around the logic of asking for income from so long ago.

We will see on January 2nd I guess. Either way, fingers crossed we get picked and best of luck to all other applicants
It actually makes perfect sense, as they want to see consistent income meeting LICO to ensure financial stability of the sponsor. Hence the 3 consecutive years requirement.
And if tax returns are not yet completed by the time they accept applications, logically it must be the 3 previous years.
 
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Pearl1

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I have a question regarding co-signer.

I got married in 2017. me and my spouse have been in Canada since 2011. Can I still add my spouse as a co-signer (and add the income for 2015 and 2016 to meet the LICO) or do we have to be married for 3 years ?
 

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It actually makes perfect sense, as they want to see consistent income meeting LICO to ensure financial stability of the sponsor. Hence the 3 consecutive years requirement.
And if tax returns are not yet completed by the time they accept applications, logically it must be the 3 previous years.
Totally agree with you on the 3 year rule. Was referring to them possibly using 2014. You have to think of the other side of the fence that it's not including the most current tax year. For example it means someone who got laid off in the oil field last year could still apply, even though they are no longer financially stable. That's just my two cents on it.

Too be honest I was making the assumption based on this statement by CIC..."If you are sponsoring a parent or a grandparent, you must meet the minimum necessary income requirement for each of the three years immediately preceding the date of your application."

I guess it largely depends on how quickly they are expecting to process the applications.
 

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Quick Question? I just became a Permanant resident 3 Months ago, I can prove my Income earnings from my home country for the last 3 years but not In Canada. Is that acceptable ??
 

oaw

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This is exactly what they've done since 2014.

Even in 2017 when lottery was first announced, they specified 2013/2014/2015 incomes to be eligible. However it was only after lottery was screwed up and took so long to draw names, tax returns were already completed so they changed rule last-minute to 2014/2015/2016.

If we go by how IRCC has run parents program since 2014, should expect 2014/2015/2016 income to be eligible to apply in 2018. It's only if they start the actual app submission much later in the year when 2017 tax returns would already be completed, would they make rule 2015/2016/2017.

But again, all we are doing is complete guesses until they confirm.

Yes, thats my bad luck,
i had not applied into the lottery in Jan 2017, because they were asking for income 2013/2014/2015.
for me only My 2013 was not meeting LICO, where as 2014,2015,2016,2017... are good
but later they changed the rule, thats my bad luck,
anyway, I hope we win lottery in 2018.
 

oaw

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Quick Question? I just became a Permanant resident 3 Months ago, I can prove my Income earnings from my home country for the last 3 years but not In Canada. Is that acceptable ??
Must be Canadian income.
They need to verify using your notice of assessment.
 

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Quick Question? I just became a Permanant resident 3 Months ago, I can prove my Income earnings from my home country for the last 3 years but not In Canada. Is that acceptable ??
Nope. You have a long way to go before becoming eligible. A lot of us have been waiting 3 years+ to apply. You need 3 years worth of Canadian income tax filings, and must meet the minimum income requirement for your family size for the 3 years that IRCC will ask for in the application. I would recommend and request that you please read the guide before applying (3 years from now at the very least). All information is in there, very straightforward.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-5772-application-sponsor-parents-grandparents.html
 

Rob_TO

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Totally agree with you on the 3 year rule. Was referring to them possibly using 2014. You have to think of the other side of the fence that it's not including the most current tax year. For example it means someone who got laid off in the oil field last year could still apply, even though they are no longer financially stable. That's just my two cents on it.
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That's not really a concern. They continue to check income right up until PR is actually approved. So whether someone is laid off and doesn't meet income in 2017, 2018, or 2019... it could all still result in the app being rejected even if they met the 3 previous years at time of application.
 

Rob_TO

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16-11-2012
Quick Question? I just became a Permanant resident 3 Months ago, I can prove my Income earnings from my home country for the last 3 years but not In Canada. Is that acceptable ??
Income must be earned while living in Canada, and supported by Canadian tax returns.

Income earned while living outside Canada will not be accepted. Any income proof that doesn't come from the CRA, will not even be looked at.
 

canuck78

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I have a question regarding co-signer.

I got married in 2017. me and my spouse have been in Canada since 2011. Can I still add my spouse as a co-signer (and add the income for 2015 and 2016 to meet the LICO) or do we have to be married for 3 years ?
No you don't have to be married for 3 years. You can use your spouse as your co-signer.
 

oaw

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Thanks for your reply, will you please let me know what is UCI number in the form ,
Hi,

UCI is “unique client identifier.” It is also known as a client identification number (client ID).
It’s on official documents you get from CIC

Below are the links from CIC website:
https://services3.cic.gc.ca/ecas/redir.do?redir=id_num
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=013&top=4
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=772&top=4
 

Pearl1

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No you don't have to be married for 3 years. You can use your spouse as your co-signer.

Thank you !

Our accountant was saying since your previous NOA would say "single" for marital status, so these NOAs can't be used for sponsorship with a co-signer (means we can't combine our income for when we were single). I wanted to check here before I go out and pay an immigration consultant.
 

oaw

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Thank you !

Our accountant was saying since your previous NOA would say "single" for marital status, so these NOAs can't be used for sponsorship with a co-signer (means we can't combine our income for when we were single). I wanted to check here before I go out and pay an immigration consultant.
Did you said you are "going to pay your immigration consultant",
my suggestion would be to win the lottery first, I hope you are lucky, once you win the lottery then go an pay your consultant for case processing.
Sorry if I misunderstood your point.