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Main Applicant Work Experience, Spouse Work Experience

Quorn

Star Member
Nov 28, 2017
140
51
Category........
FSW
Dear Valuable Forum Members,

First of all, as a newcomer to this forum, I would like to express that it has been such a relief to find out about this forum, as the way I see it, this forum is not only a discussion portal, but also it is a place of peace and hope wherein such valuable people spend their best efforts to contribute to each other to achieve their objectives through the very same epic journey. I am truly and extremely hopeful that the dreams of everyone who have contributed to this family will eventually come true.

Although I am aware that the topic I am going to request for opinion has been discussed previously in numerous threads, for the purposes of ascertaining that I can submit the correct information without any misrepresentation, I kindly seek your valuable advice regarding work experience of me and my wife in the Express Entry profile.


The breakdown of my work experience is as follows:

2005 July – 2010 August: Worked under the title of “Civil Engineer”, but almost all of my duties and responsibilities are listed under NOC 1225 “purchasing agents and officers”.

2010 August – 2015 August: Worked under the title of “Business Development and Sales Manager”, the duties and responsibilities do not fit NOC 1225.

2015 August – Present: Have been working under the title of “Senior Contracts Administrator”, and almost all of my duties and responsibilities are listed under NOC 1225 “purchasing agents and officers”


All of my experiences are foreign (i.e. outside Canada).

I am unable to provide any reference letter my employment between 2010 August – 2015 August, because the company is a family owned business and I left the company despite it has insisted on me staying. Particularly the owner of the company dislikes me and in the event I tried to request for a reference letter, he would do his best to ensure I would not be given that reference letter, not only from him, but also from anyone working for the company. So unprofessional, isn't it ?

I would like to pursue my career in contracts administration anyway, and I do not want to claim points for business development and sales manager position between 2010 – 2015 anyway. So, I completely removed the experience between 2010 – 2015 from my express entry profile. The profile only shows my experiences between 2005 - 2010 and 2015 – present. If I ever receive an ITA with 428 points someday, I plan to clarify the experience between 2010 – 2015 in the personal section, wherein I intend to state that I do not claim any points for that particular experience as to my knowledge it doesn’t alter my CRS points anyway and moreover I don’t plan to pursue a career in Business Development in Sales. Therefore, I did not include it in my express entry profile. Is this answer a misrepresentation ? If so, then what should be the correct approach? If it is not a misrepresentation, then is it a proper statement? Will I still need to provide any documents? If so, would you kindly advice ?

Secondly, my wife has been working in a company’s HR department for 6 years. During her first four years, she worked as the HR specialist, then during her last two years she has been working as the HR Manager. I would like to reconfirm if it would be totally acceptable (and it would not be a misrepresentation) if I completely removed her experience from spouse experience under Express Entry, and include in Personal History section if I ever receive the golden ITA. This is because her experience is also foreign (i.e. outside Canada), so I am not claiming any points for that, and I don't want to pursue an attempt to receive work experience letters for her as well.


I apologize if it has been too long to read.


I deeply appreciate your time and attention.


Thanks in advance,


Quorn
 

DelPiero07

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Oct 2, 2016
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Not misrepresentation and no proof of employment will be required for any work experience stated only in the personal history section. It is the right approach.

Same answer for your spouses' situation.
 
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ABhola

Star Member
Oct 24, 2017
88
24
India
Category........
PNP
NOC Code......
2171
Nomination.....
09-07-2018
Dear Valuable Forum Members,

First of all, as a newcomer to this forum, I would like to express that it has been such a relief to find out about this forum, as the way I see it, this forum is not only a discussion portal, but also it is a place of peace and hope wherein such valuable people spend their best efforts to contribute to each other to achieve their objectives through the very same epic journey. I am truly and extremely hopeful that the dreams of everyone who have contributed to this family will eventually come true.

Although I am aware that the topic I am going to request for opinion has been discussed previously in numerous threads, for the purposes of ascertaining that I can submit the correct information without any misrepresentation, I kindly seek your valuable advice regarding work experience of me and my wife in the Express Entry profile.


The breakdown of my work experience is as follows:

2005 July – 2010 August: Worked under the title of “Civil Engineer”, but almost all of my duties and responsibilities are listed under NOC 1225 “purchasing agents and officers”.

2010 August – 2015 August: Worked under the title of “Business Development and Sales Manager”, the duties and responsibilities do not fit NOC 1225.

2015 August – Present: Have been working under the title of “Senior Contracts Administrator”, and almost all of my duties and responsibilities are listed under NOC 1225 “purchasing agents and officers”


All of my experiences are foreign (i.e. outside Canada).

I am unable to provide any reference letter my employment between 2010 August – 2015 August, because the company is a family owned business and I left the company despite it has insisted on me staying. Particularly the owner of the company dislikes me and in the event I tried to request for a reference letter, he would do his best to ensure I would not be given that reference letter, not only from him, but also from anyone working for the company. So unprofessional, isn't it ?

I would like to pursue my career in contracts administration anyway, and I do not want to claim points for business development and sales manager position between 2010 – 2015 anyway. So, I completely removed the experience between 2010 – 2015 from my express entry profile. The profile only shows my experiences between 2005 - 2010 and 2015 – present. If I ever receive an ITA with 428 points someday, I plan to clarify the experience between 2010 – 2015 in the personal section, wherein I intend to state that I do not claim any points for that particular experience as to my knowledge it doesn’t alter my CRS points anyway and moreover I don’t plan to pursue a career in Business Development in Sales. Therefore, I did not include it in my express entry profile. Is this answer a misrepresentation ? If so, then what should be the correct approach? If it is not a misrepresentation, then is it a proper statement? Will I still need to provide any documents? If so, would you kindly advice ?

Secondly, my wife has been working in a company’s HR department for 6 years. During her first four years, she worked as the HR specialist, then during her last two years she has been working as the HR Manager. I would like to reconfirm if it would be totally acceptable (and it would not be a misrepresentation) if I completely removed her experience from spouse experience under Express Entry, and include in Personal History section if I ever receive the golden ITA. This is because her experience is also foreign (i.e. outside Canada), so I am not claiming any points for that, and I don't want to pursue an attempt to receive work experience letters for her as well.


I apologize if it has been too long to read.


I deeply appreciate your time and attention.


Thanks in advance,


Quorn
I would suggest you to submit supporting documentation to claim your experience. It would be better not to omit that from your profile. You may submit emails confirming that the company would not issue you the letter and to support your employment history, you may submit self notarized affidavit for your job reference, submit your pay slips/stubs, offer letter, appraisal letters, relieving letters etc to validate things.
Since it does not affect your CRS, it is better to submit everything from your end and leave it at CICs discretion to accept them or not.

Secondly, for the spouse, you could mention her experience details too. However, points are claimed only for Canada experience. So again, it does not affect your CRS. Also, you do not need to submit any employment reference letters for your wife even if you mention her experience as it's NON-Canada work-ex.

Hope this helps. Seniors here would be able to confirm on this and even guide you better.
 
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Quorn

Star Member
Nov 28, 2017
140
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Dear @DelPiero07 and @ABhola ,

Thank you so much for your prompt responses.

So there are simply two situations based on your inputs:

- @ABhola 's suggestion: Include all of my experience and my spouse's experience in Express Entry profile. After receiving ITA (hopefully someday), the system will require me to upload documents, such as reference letters for all those experiences even if I don't claim points for. If I can't find reference letters for these experiences, which I don't claim any point for, then after ITA, I can move them to personal history section, and there is no problem and no misrepresentation whatsoever.

- @DelPiero07 's suggestion: No need to include any of my spouse's experience in the Express Entry profile, as I don't claim for any points. Also no need to include any of my own experience, which I won't be claiming points for, in the Express Entry profile. Then after receiving ITA, the system will not ask me to upload any document for these and I can just mention them in Personal History section. There is again, no problem and no misrepresentation.

Are both of the above fully applicable ?

Thanks in advance,

Quorn
 
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mansiib

Hero Member
Jul 6, 2015
238
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Hi Abhola

The case of URS is same as mine
What did u do which NOC did u put in ur Express entry profile.my hubby is also civil engineer but most tasks are of contracts...