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November 2017 - Citizenship Applicants

razerblade

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Thankyou, i was really getting paranoid.

Can i use this webform or any webform for citizenship application?
There's only one webform. It will ask you "Type of application", just select "Citizenship". Use the file number from your AOR email, once you receive it.
 

muhammad092

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There's only one webform. It will ask you "Type of application", just select "Citizenship". Use the file number from your AOR email, once you receive it.
Thankyou so much!! So they put the update on file after we sent it? Or i need to send a letter by courier too afterwards?
 

razerblade

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Thankyou so much!! So they put the update on file after we sent it? Or i need to send a letter by courier too afterwards?
From what I've seen, they just update the file directly. No need to send it by courier. In any case, use the webform first, and if they ask to submit a fixed form, then do so. They will inform you once they have updated the file.
 
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muhammad092

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From what I've seen, they just update the file directly. No need to send it by courier. In any case, use the webform first, and if they ask to submit a fixed form, then do so. They will inform you once they have updated the file.
Thankyou so much! Your help really means a lot to me!
 

dpenabill

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Can someone guide me, i sent my application on sunday- now i realized a mistake that on the physical presence calculator it asked for reason for visit i wrote to visit family members- i forgot to add that i got married during the visit too? What should do. Can someone help me!
I responded to same query in another thread.

As I stated there, there really is NO need to update or clarify or correct this.

I should have also noted, however, that it is probably best to NOT update it, to not tinker with small details. It is usually better to let a bureaucrat process stay entirely in its routine track unless there is a good reason for tinkering with it along the way. (The applicant who moves from one address to another, for example, MUST update his or her information; but there is no need to update even a change in employment, since the employment reported in the application is employment HISTORY.)

The latter warrants a caveat, recognizing that a marriage abroad will sometimes, for some individuals, be a reason for an extended period of time abroad, much longer abroad than, say, is typical for a trip "to visit family." If this trip abroad was a particularly long trip, more than six weeks say, then it might be worth submitting an update. BUT otherwise, as the saying goes, typically better to let sleeping dogs lie.
 

muhammad092

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I responded to same query in another thread.

As I stated there, there really is NO need to update or clarify or correct this.

I should have also noted, however, that it is probably best to NOT update it, to not tinker with small details. It is usually better to let a bureaucrat process stay entirely in its routine track unless there is a good reason for tinkering with it along the way. (The applicant who moves from one address to another, for example, MUST update his or her information; but there is no need to update even a change in employment, since the employment reported in the application is employment HISTORY.)

The latter warrants a caveat, recognizing that a marriage abroad will sometimes, for some individuals, be a reason for an extended period of time abroad, much longer abroad than, say, is typical for a trip "to visit family." If this trip abroad was a particularly long trip, more than six weeks say, then it might be worth submitting an update. BUT otherwise, as the saying goes, typically better to let sleeping dogs lie.



Thankyou so much. Now, my question is that does submitting anything through the online web form after getting AOR may trigger anything on my application? Or it will stay as routine processing? The only reason i missed saying this was that it wasnt even mentioned anywhere in the reasons that i should mention( getting married) as the purpose of my trip. Since, it was all family matters so i wrote visit to family. Now i am gettimg confused that if cic brings that up the reason of my visit. So in short, updating them with the reason of visit will trigger anything or not or they would just update that line on my file and everything goes smoothly?
 

saimeet

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Hi All,

I submitted my application on nov 15 from Toronto

I wanted to know will they email or send me a letter saying they have recieved the application or by when can I track it in the application status on the immigration website.

thanks in advance.

Saimeet
 

razerblade

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Hi All,

I submitted my application on nov 15 from Toronto

I wanted to know will they email or send me a letter saying they have recieved the application or by when can I track it in the application status on the immigration website.

thanks in advance.

Saimeet
Acknowledgement is sent via email. Check the spreadsheet in my signature to see the progress of applications.
 
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dpenabill

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Thankyou so much. Now, my question is that does submitting anything through the online web form after getting AOR may trigger anything on my application? Or it will stay as routine processing? The only reason i missed saying this was that it wasnt even mentioned anywhere in the reasons that i should mention( getting married) as the purpose of my trip. Since, it was all family matters so i wrote visit to family. Now i am gettimg confused that if cic brings that up the reason of my visit. So in short, updating them with the reason of visit will trigger anything or not or they would just update that line on my file and everything goes smoothly?
Look at my other response to your query.

Isolated details like this do not ordinarily have any impact . . . unless (and this should be obvious, this should go without saying) the details are inconsistent or otherwise raise questions relative to the rest of the applicant's situation.

An isolated update using the web form should not trigger non-routine processing. But of course if the information in the update itself raises a question, then it could.

A lot of this is common sense. There is a tendency in the forum, especially lately, to overthink particular details. What makes sense in context and in relation to other details is far more important . . . recognizing, of course, that being truthful is of prime importance.

I could go into an in-depth explanation about how there is very little difference between "to visit family" versus "to attend to family matters," among many other ways to generally refer to a broad, broad range of activities related to family.

But as I tried to explain in my observations in the other response, in the other thread, there is very little if any attention given to the reasons or purpose information given in the presence calculation. Only if what is stated there stands out as indicating something wrong is that a problem, and it is not likely to be a problem in itself but is only a problem in the sense that could lead the processing agent to look at a lot of things a lot more closely. And even that is not a problem if, in looking at things a lot more closely, that does not reveal a reason to be suspicious.

The other thing IRCC sometimes looks at, in the reasons/purposes box of information in the presence calculation, is reference to other countries visited during the trip. This is mostly, probably, about comparing passport stamps and verifying the applicant has disclosed the trip evidenced by a passport stamp.

Again, unless it was a particularly long absence, significantly longer than typical "to visit family," there is no reason to even think about updating your information to add an additional purpose for a particular trip. And, frankly, even if it was a very long absence in that sense, even then it probably is not worth tinkering with. You gave a broad reason for the trip. That has no impact on your qualifications for citizenship. You should be OK.
 

muhammad092

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Look at my other response to your query.

Isolated details like this do not ordinarily have any impact . . . unless (and this should be obvious, this should go without saying) the details are inconsistent or otherwise raise questions relative to the rest of the applicant's situation.

An isolated update using the web form should not trigger non-routine processing. But of course if the information in the update itself raises a question, then it could.

A lot of this is common sense. There is a tendency in the forum, especially lately, to overthink particular details. What makes sense in context and in relation to other details is far more important . . . recognizing, of course, that being truthful is of prime importance.

I could go into an in-depth explanation about how there is very little difference between "to visit family" versus "to attend to family matters," among many other ways to generally refer to a broad, broad range of activities related to family.

But as I tried to explain in my observations in the other response, in the other thread, there is very little if any attention given to the reasons or purpose information given in the presence calculation. Only if what is stated there stands out as indicating something wrong is that a problem, and it is not likely to be a problem in itself but is only a problem in the sense that could lead the processing agent to look at a lot of things a lot more closely. And even that is not a problem if, in looking at things a lot more closely, that does not reveal a reason to be suspicious.

The other thing IRCC sometimes looks at, in the reasons/purposes box of information in the presence calculation, is reference to other countries visited during the trip. This is mostly, probably, about comparing passport stamps and verifying the applicant has disclosed the trip evidenced by a passport stamp.

Again, unless it was a particularly long absence, significantly longer than typical "to visit family," there is no reason to even think about updating your information to add an additional purpose for a particular trip. And, frankly, even if it was a very long absence in that sense, even then it probably is not worth tinkering with. You gave a broad reason for the trip. That has no impact on your qualifications for citizenship. You should be OK.



Thankyou so much for your help. Your help really means a lot to me. Now currently i will wait for AOR. And then i will just send cic saying that '' on my online physical calculator in one of my absences i just wanted to add that during my visit i also got married". In this way i would have a record that i updated cic and if it comes up in future i would have a proof that i updated them. I am sure you will agree to this point? I was just worried that this update might lead to non routine processing or something.
 

dpenabill

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Thankyou so much for your help. Your help really means a lot to me. Now currently i will wait for AOR. And then i will just send cic saying that '' on my online physical calculator in one of my absences i just wanted to add that during my visit i also got married". In this way i would have a record that i updated cic and if it comes up in future i would have a proof that i updated them. I am sure you will agree to this point? I was just worried that this update might lead to non routine processing or something.
I should be clear: I am NOT an expert. I am not qualified to give personal advice.

Personally I would not tinker with things over this. In particular I would wait to see if I realize there are other things in the nature of a mistake made (I made a few very minor errors in mine, years ago now, never addressed them). But doing the update should NOT cause any problem either. This is a personal judgment call. Probably not a significant deal, and almost certainly not a big deal. Either way.

Other information in the application will have far, far greater significance than the stated reason for one trip.
 

muhammad092

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I should be clear: I am NOT an expert. I am not qualified to give personal advice.

Personally I would not tinker with things over this. In particular I would wait to see if I realize there are other things in the nature of a mistake made (I made a few very minor errors in mine, years ago now, never addressed them). But doing the update should NOT cause any problem either. This is a personal judgment call. Probably not a significant deal, and almost certainly not a big deal. Either way.

Other information in the application will have far, far greater significance than the stated reason for one trip.
I guess you are right really makes sense. I was just over thinking and getting paranoid. Thankyou so much again
 

Karachi1

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Hi guys if I am sending the package through Canada post, where should I send it at mentioned Regular mail address or courier address ?
and like everybody mention their present days in thread to get added into spread sheet, we are 5 people in a package and number of days are different for each applicant so should i just tell the number of days which is the lowest among all?
 

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Reading this thread after a long time..Why are some people mentioning "Application signed by" in their timeline? It's as irrelevant as say what carrier they used to send their application package.
 

razerblade

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Reading this thread after a long time..Why are some people mentioning "Application signed by" in their timeline? It's as irrelevant as say what carrier they used to send their application package.
Because someone started a joke about applications signed by certain individuals are not getting AORs. Some people took the seriously.