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Residence Outside of Canada form

grisha

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Hello !

Application for Canadian Citizenship says:

"If during your eligibility period you lived outside Canada, please complete and submit the Residence Outside of Canada form (CIT 0177)"

I lived outside of Canada as a worker. However, Residence Outside of Canada form is related to crown servants which is not my case...

Do I need to submit this form anyways, or just ignore it ?

Thank you !
 

razerblade

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Hello !

Application for Canadian Citizenship says:

"If during your eligibility period you lived outside Canada, please complete and submit the Residence Outside of Canada form (CIT 0177)"

I lived outside of Canada as a worker. However, Residence Outside of Canada form is related to crown servants which is not my case...

Do I need to submit this form anyways, or just ignore it ?

Thank you !
This has been discussed to death on the forum in the past week. Nobody knows the correct answer because the question is a complete mess. A person should check 'Yes' to that question if they want to claim time spent outside Canada towards the 1095 days requirement. Only way to do that is if you were a crown servant and other conditions mentioned on the form CIT0177. You could either check 'Yes' OR 'No' to the question and attach a cover letter explaining your situation.
 

GoodMorningCanada

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This has been discussed to death on the forum in the past week. Nobody knows the correct answer because the question is a complete mess. A person should check 'Yes' to that question if they want to claim time spent outside Canada towards the 1095 days requirement. Only way to do that is if you were a crown servant and other conditions mentioned on the form CIT0177. You could either check 'Yes' OR 'No' to the question and attach a cover letter explaining your situation.
Thanks razerblade, what if one checked yes and did not send the form and or a letter explaining?
 

razerblade

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Thanks razerblade, what if one checked yes and did not send the form and or a letter explaining?
We can only hope that IRCC would be linient and not penalize applicants for their own screw-up. No point fretting over it if you already submitted your application. Just wait for AOR. Once you receive it, you may use the file reference number and the web form on IRCC's website and notify them of your situation.

Hopefully, they will look at the calculator and figure out that the crown servant form doesn't apply to you.
 
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The more you read this question, it gets more clear - that this question is intended for applicants whoare/were Crown Servants.
So the only confusion remains is whether to click Yes/No.

I sincerely feel "Have you Lived" Vs "Have you travelled" is completely different - and we should check "No".
But for the sake of our application, I would include an explanation letter, saying why we checked "No".
 

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The more you read this question, it gets more clear - that this question is intended for applicants whoare/were Crown Servants.
So the only confusion remains is whether to click Yes/No.

I sincerely feel "Have you Lived" Vs "Have you travelled" is completely different - and we should check "No".
But for the sake of our application, I would include an explanation letter, saying why we checked "No".
I'm fairly certain that if you travelled outside Canada, meaning you still had a permanent residential address in Canada during your travels, then you will check " No" to that question.

I travelled multiple times and checked 'No'. They can refer to the residence calculator for my travel info.

Also, I believe only people who lived outside Canada and want to claim that time towards satisfying the 3/5 year residency requirement, should be checking 'Yes' to this question. But given the fact that the question doesn't make that obvious, IRCC may be flexible in accepting errors made in answering it.
 
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GoodMorningCanada

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Really hope so, guess we'll find out in about a month i.e. if the avg. AOR timing for the initial applicants remains the same.
I am hopeful that IRCC would be linient and our AOR timeline should be close of the historical avg AOR :)
 

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When I started doing it, a help box popped up about it and it explained it was for crown servants only. My guess is they now there's an error and they put the help box in until they fix it. Just a guess. I would say no to that particular question but send a note stating the form doesn't apply to you.
 

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When I started doing it, a help box popped up about it and it explained it was for crown servants only. My guess is they now there's an error and they put the help box in until they fix it. Just a guess. I would say no to that particular question but send a note stating the form doesn't apply to you.
Same here, I selected No, as in case of yes, you must fill form ....., which is only relevant to crown servant....
 

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I'm fairly certain that if you travelled outside Canada, meaning you still had a permanent residential address in Canada during your travels, then you will check " No" to that question.

I travelled multiple times and checked 'No'. They can refer to the residence calculator for my travel info.

Also, I believe only people who lived outside Canada and want to claim that time towards satisfying the 3/5 year residency requirement, should be checking 'Yes' to this question. But given the fact that the question doesn't make that obvious, IRCC may be flexible in accepting errors made in answering it.
If you select yes and you did not provide the conditional form, the officer's head will be spinning.
 
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blueangel371115

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If you select yes and you did not provide the conditional form, the officer's head will be spinning.
Yeah, I would imagine.
 

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I'm fairly certain that if you travelled outside Canada, meaning you still had a permanent residential address in Canada during your travels, then you will check " No" to that question.

I travelled multiple times and checked 'No'. They can refer to the residence calculator for my travel info.

Also, I believe only people who lived outside Canada and want to claim that time towards satisfying the 3/5 year residency requirement, should be checking 'Yes' to this question. But given the fact that the question doesn't make that obvious, IRCC may be flexible in accepting errors made in answering it.
After getting PR, I visited my parents for 20 days and my wife spent around 75 days at our home country. Can we answer "No" for "during your eligibility period did you live outside of canada"? And not need to provide multiple addresses during our stay outside canada. Thanks your help.
 

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After getting PR, I visited my parents for 20 days and my wife spent around 75 days at our home country. Can we answer "No" for "during your eligibility period did you live outside of canada"? And not need to provide multiple addresses during our stay outside canada. Thanks your help.
Did you still have a residence in Canada? If so, and you were for all intents and purposes just visiting during the 75 days, then you account for it in the presence calculator but don't list it as a residence.
 

jamason

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Did you still have a residence in Canada? If so, and you were for all intents and purposes just visiting during the 75 days, then you account for it in the presence calculator but don't list it as a residence.
Thank you, Sns204. Yes, I was inside canada except for 20 days and my wife for 75 days. Yes, I have mentioned that we travelled for those days in Physical Presence Calculator. So, I can say "No" for During Your Eligibility period did you live outside of canada" and not list the parent's address in home country in the table.